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Adding a page
I don't mean to bother you but I wanted to add a page John Winchester (Apocalypse World) and wanted to know if it was okay because I don't want to cause any trouble. If it is a problem, I won't go through with as I just wanted permission so I don't get blocked.(Kingdevo215 (talk) 18:03, February 23, 2018 (UTC))
I probably overstepped my self but I gave a warning to User:ParasiticCarroll for forum shopping. the consensus is not going her way so she tried to take the talk off the page to Dtol to get her to step in on her (ParasiticCarroll) side. Forum shopping is listed as against the rules under the consensus rule. thought you should know feel free to countermand it if I'm in the wrong or support it if I was right. or you know what ever. or give me a warning for giving warnings. Personally I think she is starting to cause problems she is pushing her death idea and god being supreme on three pages so far. It feels like the days of the ImperiexSeed god-death debate all over again. --ThomasNealy (talk) 07:19, February 24, 2018 (UTC)
Candidates for deletion
Can you tell me what is going on with the three pages on Category:Candidates for deletion? They have been sitting there for a while. two of them seem to have consensus to delete. --ThomasNealy (talk) 08:39, February 24, 2018 (UTC) I added another to the page just to let you know. --ThomasNealy (talk) 09:38, February 24, 2018 (UTC)
Noted on the block, however, for transparency, I would advise that you provide evidence (i.e. links to specific edits) on the talk page to explain the block. This is only fair to the user being blocked and it gives other admins to check the basis for the block (which would be difficult if the user had many more edits.)
I should also note that "Inserting false information" is not a blockable offence, unless the user fully intended to insert false information. Good-faith edits to insert what they think is correct (even though the rest of us may have already come to a consensus that the information is wrong) is not blockable - though repeated attempts to insert that information when being warned not to is blockable under "edit-warring" or "ignoring consensus despite warnings", but not for "inserting false information". Remember that for the edit to count as vandalism, both the edit and the intent behind the edit must be malignant.
While ParasiticCarroll should not have forum-shopped, given how new the user is and that a warning has already been given by Thomas, I personally would have cut him/her some slack and not given a block - but I leave that for you to consider (I didn't examine all of his/her edits in detail, so I may be mistaken.) Cheers. Calebchiam Talk 19:41, February 24, 2018 (UTC)
Spaces in infoboxes
Please, allow an admin and 'crat on w:c:dresdenfiles to have learned something on how to edit on wikia/fandom. I might accept that added spaces on infoboxes are not standard practice on supernatural, but they make infoboxes easier to read while editing in source mode. I can't, therefore, accept that they're useless and without purpose. AVoraciousReader (talk) 14:51, February 27, 2018 (UTC)
- To each his way of working. You're probably right, though, if they don't fit together, it's best to stay away from each other. AVoraciousReader (talk) 15:23, February 27, 2018 (UTC)
I don't know if you saw it or not but we had a Fandom Staff member delete a image from 2012 for ToS violation. We really need to get the image policy up and running so I can get back to deleting them before Fandom finds more images like that or some other violation. I don't think we want the staff to think we are not keeping things under control here. --ThomasNealy (talk) 21:11, February 28, 2018 (UTC)
I'm trying to edit pages, but keep getting this in my way: "Exception Caught: DB connection error: php_network_getaddresses: getaddrinfo failed: Name or service not known (geo-db-blobs-a-master.query.consul)." Help, please. -ParasiticCarroll (talk) 03:26, March 9, 2018 (UTC)
Yeah, that's what I thought. That's why I was extremely confused. If a page is locked, it has a lock on the edit button at the top right? Cause, I can't edit any pages. JS0662 (talk) 21:46, March 9, 2018 (UTC)
No, it was just a grayed out save box. I still have no idea why it won't work, but after a bit, I've figured out I just have to use the classic editor, that works. JS0662 (talk) 22:41, March 9, 2018 (UTC)
Yes I was wondering if you are another admin could close the consensus Or should I wait for a few more days. I spoke to User:WarGrowlmon18 about it and he agreed, but doesn’t know how to do it and if there is a rule he has to follow or not.
Talk:Jack_(Nephilim)#Nephilim_tracking_spell_as_weakness.C2.A0. Spnfan079 (talk) 02:37, March 11, 2018 (UTC) Yes they are no 6 is that enough or should I wait for another 2. Spnfan079 (talk) 05:36, March 12, 2018 (UTC)
I've been noticing you have been fixing my edits (it's fine I'm not angry about it), well I've only talked to Dtol about tips and what not to do, but I haven't talked to you, like what tips do you have when editing, and what are YOUR standards for editing, since I've mostly been trying to follow others advice, if you do have any tips for me, or if you have anything thing that I should know, that I don't know because I've only joined this nice community a couple weeks ago.
If you are able to fill me in on protocol I would appreciate that a lot :D Thanks! :)
--2607:FEA8:69F:FBCD:F844:43A6:2D4C:30D4 21:16, March 19, 2018 (UTC)
I got your message, I'm a new here, so I don't know much about what happens. Sorry about earlier, I was just trying to help, forgive me. I hope we can have less tension between us two. :)
Again I'm sorry, I wasn't aware, I'll try to do remember that for next time.
You know that Zane T 69 cannot decide this on his own. Go get consensus.
I have been recently updating a few of the power pages, and I have noticed that a lot of them are set up in different ways. Is there an official sort of template or way a power page is supposed to be set up? Thetwindler (talk) 18:52, March 28, 2018 (UTC)
Thanks for the advice; I really appreciate it, and I will take it into consideration from now on! Now that you've mentioned it, I agree that vandals using such slurs should be blocked for longer and have further restrictions. I'm far from offended actually, since anything that helps me become a better editor and improve the wiki is worth mentioning. :) Dtol (talk) 23:00, April 1, 2018 (UTC)
The description for primordial entities says that they were the beings that existed before the creation of the universe. The cosmic entity stated that he has ruled the empty since before God and the Darkness. What keeps him from being included? (Chayne Doss (talk) 17:55, April 23, 2018 (UTC))
I am very close to a way to replace ALL links with the shortest possible redirects. At this point, it's mostly a matter of writing the code, as it shouldn't need much debugging.
Do you still want me to keep in mind the 50k rule, or should I replace every link with a redirect? If the former, it will take slightly longer.
Very well. I'm just finishing a couple checkers (since the articles aren't static and redirects may be created and/or deleted) and will move on to the 50k checker afterward. I probably won't be done before the weekend, though.
Do you want me to "merge" the Quote and Quotation templates, since they're now identical? In other words, do you want me to replace every instance of Quote with Quotation or vice-versa? If so, which should be kept?
For some reason, the size of the actual text doesn't match the size of the article as reported by Wikia. Because of this, I am unable to automatically update a list of pages with over 50 KB (as reported/listed by Wikia). That said, I checked the list, and as of this moment there's only 22 pages (out of over 4000) that fit this criteria, so I think it'd be best to either use redirects everywhere or direct links everywhere. The difference for those 22 pages is also not likely to be significant - the top 10 are over 70 KB, with the top 5 being over 100 KB. I can still manually update the list, obviously. I'm just sharing my findings so you can make an informed decision.
Here. That's the list of "Long pages", ordered by size (in bytes).
Alright look, I do know that it's not Supernatural related, but that doesn't matter, trivia is supposed to explain of BOTH outside and inside sources about something, not one of them. ChocolateElemental (talk) 11:18, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
No, it's not. It's a made-up classification of a made-up species that's portrayed differently in every fictional setting. Blade calls it Hominis nocturna, if memory serves, and it's equally irrelevant. Supernatural wiki means Supernatural-related sources. I could just as easily say it's called "Bumble tomatobrain" and it'd be just as irrelevant as your completely arbitrary source.
I apologize Zane, but I have to give you some advice here; wikis are meant to be balanced with both freedom and order, not just either of the two. Otherwise it wouldn't be enjoyable being an editor here at all. ChocolateElemental (talk) 14:30, May 10, 2018 (UTC)
Hi. I just have a suggestion. Can we remove the "Alternate Earth characters" from the known characters of the Apocalypse World so far and replace it with "Apocalypse World characters" instead? I feel like that would make more sense. Touchinos (talk) 11:07, May 20, 2018 (UTC)
That would make no sense. There's more than one Alternate Earth (e.g.: The Bad Place (Alternate Universe)).
...how? All I'm saying is that the present (and future) Apocalypse World characters deserve to be listed in their own category. Separated from the tons of other characters from other universes. Touchinos (talk) 11:21, May 20, 2018 (UTC)
Or they should have their own category without separating them from the more general "Alternate Earth characters" category. They are still characters from an Alternate Earth, even if their particular Earth is more prominently featured than the others.
In the Mark of Cain page. I put possible references to the biblical Mark. That any that try to harm Cain God would deliver punishment seven fold. It’s in the trivia section of the page. “The Murderous Rage against enemies of the welder of the Mark, the Demonic Transformation upon death, and release of the Darkness could be a biblical reference to how any the would try to slay Cain would be hurt sevenfold.” This what I put.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 00:20, May 30, 2018 (UTC)
No I sent it to you, as your a fellow admin. I told him I would talk to other admins about this. Rather not make a decision for myself.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 02:16, May 30, 2018 (UTC)
Likely I’ll remove it. However it’s in the trivia section. That is a bit of a loop hole. As trivia is for any kind of noteworthy information connected to the page or similarities to other series.
For example, the Darkness has trivia section notes. Such as the sealing of the Darkness, is similar to the biblical book of Genesis retelling the first day of creation. Or how the Leviathans are reference in similarity to their alias the Old Ones which comes from Lovecraft books. My reference is a bit less direct in exact comparison. But take it like this. Whenever sometimes tried to or did hurt Dean, when he had the mark. He would either go into a murderous rage, turn into a Knight of Hell when killed, or would release the darkness if the Mark is broken. All these reference affects after something harmful happening to the holder or the mark itself. Which “could” be a reference to the seven fold punishment God said he would befall any that would try to harm Cain, Biblically.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 06:01, May 30, 2018 (UTC)
Videos on the Wiki
Heya Zane, hope you are doing fine... Do you think should we insert a template on pages which contains a video made by Fandom? We could point out that we didn't make them and they were automatically added by the Fandom? SeraphLucifer (talk) 06:44, May 31, 2018 (UTC)SeraphLucifer
No, not really but don't you think we should point out that the videos are made by the Fandom and its not our choice to put those on the pages? Fallout Wiki had a similar arguement about it. Here are two links. One is a template and the other is their blog. Link1 / Link2 SeraphLucifer (talk) 21:47, May 31, 2018 (UTC)SeraphLucifer
User moving pages
He did it again and I warned him. That was before I saw you'd already warned him for that. I think we need to block him if he has already received a warning from you and has still persisted.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 01:59, June 1, 2018 (UTC)
Hey, Orion Invictus and i were talking about if the "Swords" category should be categorized as a terminology since it deals with real life objects with adictional uses in the series, but Orion thinks that it shouldn't since the category dosen't indeed define what a sword is, i think it should since the category leeds to pages that really talk about swords, and also the "blood" category also dosen't define what is blood but still there. What you think about it? Also, taking the opportunity, why pages like "Grace", "werewolf cure", "souls", "possession" and even Sam's season 6 mental wall, etc are in the category? None of these things exist (or were at least confirmed to exist) in real life. Doctor49 (talk) 15:01, June 4, 2018 (UTC)
Good day, Zane. I answered your message at my talk page. I don't know if Orion asked you to talk to me or if it was your decision, but I thank your worry nevertheless. I presented my arguments there, thought, and you're welcome to point out my errors. Have a nice weekend! EleassarBR (talk) 20:41, June 10, 2018 (UTC)
Locking all anonymous users
I saw that you did that. Good, I was going to do it myself when I saw that you had already enabled that. Reminds me of that attack months ago when the guy just wouldn't give up and started creating sock puppet accounts when I disabled anonymous editing.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 01:56, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
How do you find and remove a redirect??? I have to get rid of that one some user created by repeatedly renaming the Nick page which I have locked to prevent from happening again in the future but I have no idea how to remove a redirect. Can you tell me??? I want to learn how to do that.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 21:39, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
I originally just deleted the redirect page but after seeing your message I restored the page to check what you mentioned. There were no pages linked to the redirect page so I just deleted the page again. It was some user's repeated renaming attempts without giving any sort of link to a source though he claims Mark Pellegrino said it somewhere. Orion always reversed it but that guy wouldn't stop renaming every few days without a linked source as requested.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 21:45, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
I locked the page. They can't do anything now without an Admin's permission, no one can. On the talk page I stated that if they could give me that source or if anyone wants to provide a legitimate edit they can run it by me and I'll allow it then, but otherwise that page is locked due to too much conflicting renaming. Because he's done that several times without providing a source when Orion asked for one. Its all in the history of the page and I've noticed it. Orion has always just been faster in reversing it than me.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 21:50, June 12, 2018 (UTC)
I went looking for an image about Joe Carnahan, and I can’t find any page here with him on it to remove it.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 03:56, June 28, 2018 (UTC)
He messaged another admin, with the same exact message and how it was formatted and lack of an user talk-page link. Not even a red link to the non-logined IP address. So maybe it was fake?[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 17:21, June 28, 2018 (UTC)
Twilight had an inquiry about the welcome message, which consistently seems to use his name. . The MediaWiki page still has @local however, , and I was wondering if you knew what the problem is and how the default user for the welcome message could be changed. Thanks! Dtol (talk) 09:51, July 15, 2018 (UTC)
Sorry, for such a late response. Usually, my edits are to shorten the form of phrasing. Hopefully, it will speed-up reading-time for quicker user-talk/page activity. Sometimes, I forget to give an edit-summary
Sorry, for such a late response. In the future, just try to remember that usually my edits are to shorten the form of phrasing. Hopefully, it'll speed-up reading-time for quicker user-chat/page-activity. Sometimes I forget to, give an edit-summary. Have a nice day.
The Angel Incineration Spell and maybe even the Torturing Spell are weapons. If they can be used offensively to hurt or kill someone, or cause destruction, they are considered weapons. Andrewh7 (talk) 01:00, August 23, 2018 (UTC) Andrewh7
Could screencaps be added to the wiki? There seems to be a lack or limited number of screencaps on here. The screencaps could not include the images that are/were promotional images if that would make things not so confusing. Andrewh7 (talk) 01:04, August 23, 2018 (UTC) Andrewh7
- I did. I told Dtol the same thing I told you, and WarGrowlmon and still got no response back as to whether or not I should go through with it and upload screencaps. Andrewh7 (talk) 01:52, August 24, 2018 (UTC) Andrewh7
Why did you delete it?
Re: Content Moderator
Speculation or Compromise?
I just engaged in a debate with WarGrowlmon18 over the smiting scene. He argued I was speculating, and locked the page. When I am proposing a suggestion that is supported (but not neccessarily confirmed) is it really any more speculation?
I did not write that "the smiting was interrupted" but rather "that Dean withstood the smite" which was in line with "the smiting failing to kill Dean". The implications are more or less the same and the statement is more correct. Regardless of whether we can prove that the smiting failed or was interrupted, we can conclude that Dean withstood it before stabbing Lucifer in the heart. It lends only the most minor credence to my own theory without actually supporting it outright while still agreeing with the original hypothesis.
Am I wrong in this situation? I would like to know, to avoid acting in a way that will result in punishment.
Can I please get some help on the special children page?
Hey dude I hope you have been doing good.
A few months ago i started working the history section such as every eoisode that features Sam and his Demon powers or demon blood references, when a new child is mentioned, the battle and even Sam's role in the Apocalypse but it's too much to do alone, especially since I only have a cellphone and Xbox one with Microsoft edge, but if somebody can please help me I would greatly appreciate it. Have a goodnight 🙂 The Inner Hate (talk) 9:36 pm, October 12, 2018 (UTC)
That might've been too harsh infinite banning him. He just might not have known better given his response to my warning about his renaming of pages. He said he didn't know better about what I told him about and if he really was that new to the Wikiverse, he might not have known that he couldn't do that. I didn't even though I never do that. He apologized for his previous mistake and did that while apologizing.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 17:25, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
If I may, I think it was clear they were only looking to advertise their channel. First they spam a bunch of edits with fan names that, by their own admission, originated on their channel, and then the very first message they send is 90% "subscribe to my channel" or equivalent statements. They're just here to advertise, nothing more.
K. I actually think I know that guy's YouTube channel. Name sounds familiar anyway. If I'm right he does post some great clips but that doesn't excuse what he did.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 18:38, October 13, 2018 (UTC)
Also, I agree that giving that guy an infinite ban was unfair given every comment on this thread. It's the reason why some fandoms have their own fanon wikis as well as a crossove rwiki, a fanfic idea wiki, etc. Anyway, here's hoping the situation gets solved ASAP.
Castiel/Abilities and Weaknesses reference error
Hey! Why is it the Paeon page locked? It doesn't seem to me to be the kind of page that is very often vandalized, and if it was, can you unlock it now days? I want to edit somethings there :v Doctor49 (talk) 00:21, November 27, 2018 (UTC)
Another witch named Magda
In Unhuman Nature, Rowena was talking to a witch named Magda on the phone about Jack's condition. I was thinking of adding a page for her, but there's already a page for Magda a witch just not the same one. How do we differentiate between the low-level dead witch and the live one that is supposedly one of the greatest minds in witchcraft? Andrewh7 (talk) 22:21, November 30, 2018 (UTC) Andrewh7
When the episode originally aired I had less than 1 second to identify the photo. I spent 3 weeks searching hte internet looking for hte full version of this pic. It was when I finally foudn it that I lerned the artist's name & that the image was much larger than what littele we saw in the show.
Considering it was used in the show, and that I know I would have liked finding this information, and you are using the image likely without either the show's nor the artist's permission I think it is only fair to offer proper credit.
I made a mistake and forgot to change the name. I reverted the picture SPN_749.jpg back to a older version, but the wrong version of the picture was not deleted. --Mgdodl (talk) 16:20, December 9, 2018 (UTC)
How long did you block that guy for??? I sent the initial message on his page just before I left for work and didn't bother reading that whole thing on his talk page when I saw how long and ridiculous it got. Seemed like it got pretty heated and bad and he didn't seem like a guy we want on here.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 18:49, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
Wow. What I saw seemed seriously immature and stupid. You think he'd have learned long before he got to that point. Is he even old enough to be watching this show if he's gonna act like that???--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 19:15, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
New member edits
Hello, i am, well New Member here. As you know that I am came from Thailand, well you know English not my language anyway. I am trying to improve my writings by using Grammarly (www.grammarly.com) to make my edits. Turns out their correction results faulty also.
I am trying my best to serve it as accurate as possible. I am very sorry for my language limitation.
Feel free to talk with me.
Jed'aii Lord guy
Got a message from that guy on the other Wiki I Admin on. He's asking for my help in getting you to reverse that infinite ban. At the moment I'm disinclined to help him, but I want to at least see if he'll give me some kind of explanation for his behavior then we'll see if its good enough for me to advocate reducing the ban and giving him another chance.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 18:48, December 15, 2018 (UTC)
I actually didn't know about any of that Zane. I knew about the vandalism but I only knew about the swearing from your message on his page when you infinite banned him. I'm not on the Pokémon Wiki so I don't know about anything happening there. I watched that a bit when I was a kid, saw the very first season as it was first airing but that was a really long time ago. I just didn't know the extent of what he did. And he never responded to me. If he does, I'd like to see what he has to say if only to hear his attempts at an excuse for his behavior. I agree that there's no excuse for it, but it'd be interesting to see him try. I thought that what he did was a lot lesser than it actually was. All I knew was he did a bit of vandalism and some swearing. With only that I was a little open to helping him.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 21:28, December 15, 2018 (UTC)
No prob. I'll note that its been hours and he never responded. From the looks of things, he went to another Wiki he saw me on and used that to message me. He's never been on there before as far as I can tell. The funny part is that automatic welcome note thing users get on their talk page is marked as being sent by me. I assume because I'm an Admin there that happened but I've never seen that before with my user name on it. That's the Wiki I got Admin on and I still don't know how!!!--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 01:30, December 16, 2018 (UTC)
Here's the message he sent to me (unsigned fyi): "Can you help me out? Zane T 69 gave me an inifinite ban on the Supernatural wiki, I confronted him about it and tried to reasonable and he unban me. Any help will be appreciated." That's what he said. He misspelled infinite too.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 01:32, December 16, 2018 (UTC)
No I do want the job and greatly enjoy it. I just don't know how I got it. I got a message one day about six years ago saying I was an Admin. I messaged the guy who sent that to me to ask. He never responded. But anyway, look at this guy's message. The grammar is atrocious in places!!!--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 02:09, December 16, 2018 (UTC)
He might well be. I hope he answers me just to see what kind of response he comes up with. I always like seeing what ridiculous excuses people come up with. That's part of why I enjoy judge shows so much!!! People's idiotic stories and excuses make me laugh.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 02:39, December 16, 2018 (UTC)
Three questions about this Wikia site and Wikia/fandoms as a whole
1. When will the url for supernatural.wikia.com---> change to ↔️➡️ supernatural.fandom.com? I'm assuming that because you're an admin you would know
2. For some reason I know longer get amy email notifications whatsoever and IDK why. I don't have a computer so would you recommend to use the fandom app instead of a mobile web browser such as google chrome?
3. How can I change my time settings for the signature button in settings? I live in USA, California so I follow Pacific standard time, but the Wikias signature button always gets it wrong.The Inner Hate (talk) 11:37, December 18, 2018 (UTC)
So I checked my preferences and it says I should still be receiving emails Wikias/fandoms. Should I contact community.fandom.com? Because I'm not even getting any emails from any fandom/wikia pages/sites even pages I've edited and created which is really irritating.The Inner Hate (talk) 07:37, December 20, 2018 (UTC)
Hey, user Chayne Doss is creating a page for every location. Is it really necessary? I mean, the pages barely have content and I highly doubt they'll all be used multiple times on the show. Touchinos (talk) 14:14, December 18, 2018 (UTC)
Well, that's sad. I have been away from a while since I wasn't watching the show but if we lost such a precious member, I'll come back and help as much as possible. Other than that, I am unsure who are active or not at this time. SeraphLucifer (talk) 19:17, December 22, 2018 (UTC)SeraphLucifer