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It's already covered, and by consensus it was considered Pyrokinesis due to visual effects. Smiting is merely speculation. Did Jack grant him the power? Yes. Was it smiting? No, it was agreed to be pyrokinesis. You can watch her death at the end of her season 12 summary on Dagons page. Zane T 69 (talk) 00:25, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

The smiting link was already erased. You're assuming too much about an entirely new entity and basing your entire argument on said assumption. We don't know what all Jack can do, yet you seem to think you do. For all we know he used reality warping with pyrokinesis to enable his fire to have that effect. Your argument literally has no logical backing, and keep in mind that you might prove right in the future, but there is no proof that you are yet. Zane T 69 (talk) 00:54, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

You're assuming that it was smiting, when it didn't have the visual effect. I'm not saying him killing a demon is an assumption, and if you actually got that from what I said, then I would be very concerned. The point is, it didn't have the smiting visual effect, as such it cannot be considered smiting. This argument is closed. After reading your reply and seeing you twist or misunderstand my words, I see no point in wasting my time with someone who's either determined to get their way at the cost of the wikis integrity or cannot even comprehend my arguments. Zane T 69 (talk) 01:17, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

It's misleading because you changed it to say "remove all of Crowley's powers". The previous version was better and if I remember correctly, it emulates similar weaknesses sections. I also already said most of this in the edit summary. Zane T 69 (talk) 01:59, November 6, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not going to get into another drawn out debate with you. Things are done differently on this wiki and we have pre-determined style that has been in place for years, you can't just strut in and change it on a whim; because you are one person who disagrees with the many. And we have major issues that need work done and cannot afford to get distracted. Zane T 69 (talk) 02:22, November 6, 2017 (UTC)

I already have explained how you're wrong, on my first post tonight. You changed it to say "remove all of Crowley's powers," which is blatantly false because he retains his human powers of magic. We also have a general style that you want to go against. Just like last time you can't even understand what I'm saying or pretend not too just to drag out a debate until you get your way. This matter is closed, you're incapable of comprehending the points I make or merely ignore them. If I'm any more clear in them I would be condescending or outright mocking you, which would be shamefully unprofessional of me. Zane T 69 (talk) 02:37, November 6, 2017 (UTC)

Two very different cases. Angels can be depowered into humans. Crowley was a human who became demonized and was then almost depowered back to a human. Your edit misleads people into believing that he would lose all of his powers. Our general style is how we tend to emulate other pages, you are a new user and quite obviously haven't viewed many of our pages to our style. Perhaps this wiki will be a better fit for you, you obviously don't like how our wiki works and can't avoid arguments/debates with people. They have a different style than us and you might find like-minded people there. Zane T 69 (talk) 02:56, November 6, 2017 (UTC)

Astral ProjectionEdit

Michael did show his wings.  Here: at 0:37 (You might need to move forward/backward a few frames; it's really fast) 

And at 0:20 (might need to look closely); you can see Michael's wings.  It's faint, but it's there. Dtol (talk) 21:16, November 23, 2017 (UTC)

That's okay.  Dtol (talk) 22:42, November 23, 2017 (UTC)


You have been blocked for three days, for breaking the Three-revert rule. Zane T 69 (talk) 14:57, November 26, 2017 (UTC)

If you look above, you will notice that you haven't been blocked since November. You can also view your blocks in the block log. The pages you have tried editing may have been protected. Zane T 69 (talk) 01:34, March 9, 2018 (UTC)

Are you getting an error message like ParasiticCarroll described on my talkpage? Either way, I haven't encountered the problem your having, so I would suggest you contact wikia or check Community Central. Zane T 69 (talk) 22:14, March 9, 2018 (UTC)

As Zane said, you are no longer blocked. FTWinchester (talk) 23:36, April 8, 2018 (UTC)

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