Supernatural Wiki

==I haven't properly welcomed you to the wiki, so welcome, and I hope you enjoy your stay! :) Alright, down to business. I'll admit, I smiled at your last theory, having to do with mockery, but here's my stance. Look, I don't see any reason why Eve would've created something that had the power to kill her, I mean, what would be the benefit? Also, Eve possessed knowledge on the Natural Order, which means she would've had insight on hunters a head of time, and their tendencies, calling their act of killing her monsters an "arrangement". So, she would have known their intention in killing her creations, so the last thing she would do is make a monster that can kill her. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:12 PM, January 2nd 2012==

Great question, but I haven't a clue, seeing as it wasn't explained, nor was it even talked about! Maybe the Gods, I don't know. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:33 PM, January 2nd 2012

Thank you so very much for undoing all the crap Bron Handa caused, I really appreciate it. Also, it saved me a lot of work. Hey, would you like to become an admin, if so, let me know. -- ImperiexSeed, 12:17 PM, January 9th 2011

Sorry for the late response, and nope, I haven't withdrawn my offer, just let me get back to you on the requirements.. --ImperiexSeed, 6:01 PM, January 12th 2012

Adding to speculation to Supernatural Wiki[]

Before you add any futher speculation to the pages I suggest you consult ImperiexSeed. As Admin, he may be able to provide you dos and and don'ts or even if you should add any speculation to the wiki at all for that matter. The reason I am saying this is because ImperiexSeed and I came to an understanding not too long ago that for any wiki to be accurate it can't have any speculation except on the talk pages. I look forward to your response. 10:54, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Yo, General MGD 109, what's up?! Anyways, down to the topic at hand.. Typically, any speculation (even including mild form) on any page is unnecessary, unless it's a talk page, in which case it'd be fine. Look, all speculation does is twist concrete info into something that's based on opinion and or preference, which isn't helpful. Answer is, no, speculation can't be present in pages. -- ImperiexSeed, 12:32 PM, January 14th 2012

Very important![]

I know I'm an admin, but I have something I'd like your honest opinion on.. On many occasions, in "Free To Be You and Me", "The Third Man", and "The French Mistake", archangel Raphael made storms, so does that mean he's hydrokinetic? I'm quite confident that he is, and would to create a page about it. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:46 PM, January 14th 2012

What the Colt can't kill...[]

I get your point, maybe it is types of creatures, rather than separate individuals, but I doubt it. If that were the case, then the four archangels would definitely be one of them. Take Madge and Edward Carrigan for example, two (weak) deities who probably could be killed by the Colt, marking the species gods susceptible to it, therefore they can't be immune. About Jesse, he's a being who can vanquish the entire heavenly establishment with a single word, which tells me he'd be hard to kill. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:39 PM, January 15th 2012

I'm sorry, but I'm quite busy at the moment, so I'll have to get back to you later. Sorry for the inconvenience. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:03 PM, January 15th 2012

I didn't remove it, and our discussion isn't over, unless you want it to be.. Alright, so here's how I see it. With the gods you mentioned, like Osiris, Atropos and Chronos, they'd probably die by the Colt. If any gods were to be immune, it'd be Leshii or Kali, that's about it. Depending on if they're apart of creation, the Horsemen may or may not be included, however they'd be immune either way, as they're indestructible. The Phoenix can be killed by the Colt, it's ashes can kill Eve, making her susceptible to it. By the way, God and Death are immune to it, but by default, as they weren't apart of creation. For some reason, you say Jesse can be killed given the opportunity, but then how could he kill the entire host?! -- ImperiexSeed, 3:42 PM, January 16th 2012

Hey, it'd be greatly appreciated it you responded to my message above! -- ImperiexSeed, 1:26 PM, January 17th 2012

Honestly, I think it's about that time, unless you want it to continue, otherwise I think it'd be pointless to further the discussion.. Sorry, I just think it's time. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:47 PM, January 18th 2012

Time travelers.[]

No, because angels don't weaken by using time travel, unless they're disconnected from Heaven, in which case they would, like Anna, and Castiel during season 5. Also, angels are stronger than gods, so Cronos is weaker, sorry. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:15 PM, January 18th 2012

Response to your solution[]

Hi, General MGD 109, I can not respond at the moment, but I will get back to you as soon as I can. 00:21, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Your solution is fine with me as I am all for ending this argument as well. However, I want to clarify that I do not believe either of us are wrong. Although I am not ruling out telekinesis as a possibility, I do have to point out that the lights blacked out briefly as Famine was influencing the people's hunger in the diner at the time. As such I am in kind to believe the lights were reacting to the shear intensity of his power. I am just concerned there is insubstantial evidence to prove the occurrence was a result of either powers respectively beyond speculation. With that said, proceed with asking ImperiexSeed to act as our arbetrator so that we can finally settle this dispute. I look forward to your response. 08:19, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

In regards to Famine's powers...[]

Alright, let's first define the term electrokinesis, in order to determine its use.. It means to manipulate or generate electricity with one's mind, without external help, which does not seem to be the case with Famine. -- ImperiexSeed, 12:03 PM, January 21st 2012

Sorry, my intent wasn't to put you down, but rather to help you with the disagreement with the other user.. I provided a definition so that maybe you could better understand the word itself. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:44 PM, January 21st 2012

I haven't a clue as to what the other user is talking about, it's obviously relevant, therefore it should be included in the page! -- ImperiexSeed, 5:06 PM, January 21st 2012

Saw Message[]

In Supernatural they aren't of the fairy race they are of Eve's creations.: The Twilight of Your Despair 00:47, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Changeling are in real life mythology are a fairy, troll, elf etc and human offspring. But in supernatural their Changeling not those comfirmed to be fairies are not of the fairy race their are of Eve's creation comfirmed in one of the season 6 salutes to Supernatural. Also Mab is if their is a creator of the fairies. She was the first one her son Oberon and wife Titania overthrow her thus making Oberon the current ruler.: The Twilight of Your Despair 01:06, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Its fine. Also check out the blog Next God and my info on Chaos and Nature. As a spoiler maganize I got in the mail with the Salute to Supernatural times for next month.: The Twilight of Your Despair 15:43, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Powers and Abilities[]

Archangels possess the powers and abilities that are inherent in other angels, which are detailed in Angel Lore, but have additional strengths commensurate with their rank. Their telekinesis, for example, appears to have a wider range than that of the average angel. Gabriel snaps his fingers and flames appear on two candles.[6] Raphael can manipulate electricity.[15] Lucifer can alter temperature.[16]

Perhaps the greatest measure of the archangels' strength is their ability to overpower other supernatural beings. Lucifer, unarmed, killed a number of pagan gods with ease using his bare hands and telekinesis (or molecular combustion).[6] Lesser angel have also been defeated by archangels. Gabriel banishes Castiel to another location with a snap of his fingers.[5] Michael does the same to a young Uriel.[17] They may resort to more violent methods to make a point. Raphael beats Castiel, and leaves him bloody in his favorite corner of Heaven when Castiel refuses to give him his allegiance.[18] They fight again at Balthazar's house, and once again Raphael easily overpowers Castiel, and throwing him down Balthazar's staircase.[19] When they choose, archangels can kill without fighting. Michael incinerates Anna with a gesture when she threatens his plans.[17] On separate occasions, Lucifer and Raphael both caused Castiel to explode.[15][16] Archangels can also block the powers of their lower ranking brothers; Raphael prevented Castiel from using his powers on Crowley.[2]

Archangels can resurrect humans at will, even when out of contact with Heaven. Michael heals Sam completely after he was impaled with a pipe, and bled out.[17] Gabriel, while posing as the Trickster, kills and resurrects Dean dozens of times in a time loop.[4] Lucifer tells Sam that if he killed himself he would resurrect him,[15] and Castiel states that if Anna killed Sam that Lucifer would only resurrect him.[17]

From the Archangel's page from the Superwiki version of this site.

Now maybe Archangels still need the connect to return to Heaven but other than that no standard angelic power is removed along with the connection from Heaven. I do may research.: The Twilight of Your Despair 15:53, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Nevermind I thought you put was restricted my bad.: The Twilight of Your Despair 15:56, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Dispute on the Famine page finally settled[]

Hi, General MGD 109, I guess ImperiexSeed was able to settle our argument on the Famine page. Unfortunately, I was unable to give him my own argument as I was not home most of the day. Although I find ImperiexSeed was unfair to decide in favor of you before I had an opprotunity to provide my thoughts on the dispute, I will abide by his judgement nonetheless as I rather not risk beginning another argument as a result. to doing otherwise. Despite our desagreement, I hope we can be allies on this wiki in the future.. 02:40, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Well, Changelings aren't a type of fairy, so no. Sorry, but unless you can provide substantial evidence proving otherwise, there shouldn't be a mention. -- ImperiexSeed, 9:57 PM, January 21st 2012

Normally yes, but who are you thinking of.. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:53 PM, January 22nd 2012

Well, the only thing Eve ever made out of nothing was monsters, but that's not reality warping. Now I don't know what you're referring to with Pestilence.. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:11 PM, January 22nd 2012

Sorry, but that wouldn't be reality warping, more of ailment generation.. So no, please don't add that, as it would be incorrect. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:23 PM, January 22nd 2o12

Such pages already exist, though. They're Possession and Telekinesis, so no further recognition is needed. On a side note, please check out my blog, it's called "Favorite featured Supernatural Being". -- ImperiexSeed, 7:55 PM, January 29th 2012

Oh, you're talking something like Mind Control, right? Hmm, well given that such a power has been demonstrated and no such page exists, it should be created. However, please don't add any unconfirmed to the page, as speculation is totally unnecessary. ImperiexSeed -- 9:18 PM, January 30th 2012

No, a page about Astral projection wouldn't be necessary, not unless you can provide multiple users, because I can only remember Castiel and reapers using it. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:15 PM, February 4th 2012

Regarding Samhain's power[]

Before speaking of the topic at hand, I'd just like to thank you for consulting me whenever you have a question in a persistent fashion. Well, last time I checked, zombies were pretty strong, lol. Regardless if he did it or not, he still possess telekinesis as a demon. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:12 PM, February 10th 2012

You know what, Leviathans are mostly regenerative anyway, rather than being impervious to damage, at least as far as their vessels go. Look at it like this, if a nuclear bomb went off, their human vessel would be destroyed, but the Leviathan itself would remain unharmed, right. -- ImperiexSeed, 12:20 AM, February 11th 2012

Hey, oh an just to be clear, I don't mind you adding the categories, however if it's done to an inapplicable character, then I'll remove it. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:47 PM, February 11th 2012

Well, only Azazel seems to fit that description. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:50 PM, February 11th 2012

I see, but he seems to be a one-of-a-kind demon, respectively. The Seven Deadly Sins and Acheri wouldn't fall under such a category, that much I know for certain. I personally don't think it will go over well, but go ahead and try and put it on Alastair and Lilith's pages. Good day! -- ImperiexSeed, 5:01 PM, February 11th 2012
Yes, but they're more special-oriented, if anything. Let's just leave the category for demons that are extremely powerful, and not easily beaten. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:19 PM, February 11th 2012

Yo, dude! Hey, meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:15 PM, February 12th 2012

I do remember saying that, however I think this is what generally happens with that. Raphael caused the appliances in the apartment to malfunction but that had more to do with effect of his use of electrokinesis. Same goes for angels. So unless you can provide anything else, it won't be created. Thanks, I just wanted to do something fun. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:23 PM, February 13th 2012

Well, your persistence deems confidence. However, I think they used telekinesis to do those things, rather than technopathy. Besides, technopathy has more to do with machines. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:35 PM, February 13th 2012
I personally don't think it exists in the show, however you never know, some new character might pop up with the ability. ;) Hope this decision doesn't make you not my friend anymore.. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:46 PM, February 13th 2012

No, you gave no such indication, I only thought that because of my decision. If you have any other powers that don't already have pages, please share. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:52 PM, February 13th 2012

Meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:23 PM, February 18th 2012

Hey, I was thinking of making a category titled "Hunger-based" for characters like Famine, Leviathans and Vampires. What's your opinion on this? -- ImperiexSeed, 12:56 PM, February 19th 2012

This is in response to both your questions. Chronokinesis as a page would be unnecessary, since Time Travel already fits that description. Additionally, Technopathy isn't relevant, therefore it can't be present on this wiki. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:04 PM, February 20th 2012

I'll say again, it's already documented through Time Travel, so having such a page would be redundant. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:05 PM, February 21st 2012

But wouldn't Dream Walking be a form of Telepathy? Ask around, and see what other users think. If the majority agree it's separate, then I'll make the page. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:30 PM, February 25th 2012

I said I'd add it if a lot of people agreed it was separate, but so far, only one or two people have agreed. With that said, I therefore can't add it. Keep trying. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:36 PM, March 2nd 2012

You know what, I find you efforts noble, and it appears no one's answering you (like really, people should give some common courtesy) , so I'll make the page. :) However, the minute people want it removed, I will delete it, assuming it's tied with Telepathy. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:32 PM, March 2nd 2012


Yes, as it a separate power like teleportation or telekinesis.: The Twilight of Your Despair 19:40, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Yes it would, but when has he ever done that? As far as I'm concerned, of all the episodes he was in, not one of them featured such action. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:43 PM, February 27th 2012

Hi, I have a very odd question, remember the Turducken sandwich featured in "Adventures In Babysitting".. To me, it seemed like it had Reality Warping properties, so shouldn't it be added to the Reality Warping's page? I could add it under a Notes section which I could easily create. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:00 PM, March 3rd 2012

How did you get youre name red on wiki activity? WyattVisit   21:07,3/3/2012 

Yep, I definitely got the wrong episode.. -face palm- Arg, my bad, sorry. Correction: it was in "How To Win Friends And Influence Monsters", everything said previously correlates to this. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:22 PM, March 3rd 2012

Yeah, I guess you're right.. Sorry for bothering you with such a dumb question. :/ Hey, what about the Tiamant Coin. Its power to make any wish come true seemed to be a type of Reality Warping. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:41 PM, March 3rd 2012

Alright, I made the improvements needed to the page, first by the adding the word Objects in the core heading, and detailing them under a subheading. On a side note, I'm trying to make improvements to power pages, can you think of any? -- ImperiexSeed, 4:58 PM, March 3rd 2012

Wait, you mean instead of listing them by races, write every single character who has used that power? If that's what you mean, that would be a serious drawl, when it could just be listed in races. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:35 PM, March 3rd 2012
Oh, you mean have the standard "Characters with this ability" heading, but have it branch out into races subheadings? But what would be the point of that? -- ImperiexSeed, 5:46 PM, March 3rd 2012

Got a quick question for you (I seem to be having a lot of these lately, lol), should their be a page on Ailments Control, and if so, what would the proper term be for it? -- ImperiexSeed, 5:50 PM, March 3rd 2012

Clarifying my point on the Tiamat Coin[]

Hi, General MGD 109, I just wanted to clarify my point to ImperiexSeed as you seemed to have misunderstood me. I am well aware that wish granting counts as manipulating reality as that is a fundamental to Genie's powers in Disney's Aladdin. However, I was pointing out to ImperiexSeed that Tiamat Coin's power would "also" classify as wish granting, so that he can note it manipulates reality as a result to making wishes come true on the Reality Warping page. I hope you can understand what I had meant now, my friend. 23:16, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

It's alright, everybody misunderstands someone else once in a while. 06:37, March 4, 2012 (UTC)


Got a new wifi router so want to meet on thr chat?: The Twilight of Your Despair 00:23, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Something is wrong with the chat it, I can use your message but you cannot see mine.: The Twilight of Your Despair 00:34, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

I can see every message you sent I think something is wrong on your end or maybe mine.: The Twilight of Your Despair 01:01, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

I have to go anyway try it again later. Btw check out Perception Altering and Conjuration.: The Twilight of Your Despair 01:10, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Hey see if the link on my Blog Season 8 Confirmed? is an accurate one.: The Twilight of Your Despair 22:55, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I wouldn't really count that as Chorokinesis, mostly because freezing time's fixed cordial is hard, yes, he's the strongest demon, but he's still just a warped human soul. Hmm, I think being able to add/remove memories would be a form of Mind Control, only not controlling them, but that's just me. A healing page seems legit, but could you give me some time to think about it? I'd suggest merging that with the Sedation Touch page, and change the page's name around to some well-rounded in relation to power involving touching. I don't know, but I'll unlock it. I think that would be a Reaper's healing power, rather than Ailments Manipulation. Ghosts would qualify, especially the buruburu. -- ImperiexSeed, 8:52 PM, March 6th 2012

Hi, I have a few things to say. Through profuse nagging of another user, I've come to assume that Aerokinesis and Hydrokinesis are not needed, since there an extension of WM, and we already have a pg for it. What do you think? -- ImperiexSeed, 3:27 PM, March 9th 2012

Well, whatever you mean by god of sea or air, I highly doubt they'll appear, and God obviously possess it, as he possesses all powers. I appreciate your help, however. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:40 PM< March 9th 2012

Hey, guess what?! I just created a Healing page (mainly per your request), it bears a quote, and tells who possesses it, that being Archangels, Angels and Reapers. -- ImperiexSeed, 9:45 PM, March 9th 2012

It could be just me, but I'm confused on something you added to the Earth's pg. While what you put are indeed inhabitants, it doesn't look good to add them. The only reason I have Death there is because he's not even suppose to be there, but is due to a spell. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:31 PM, March 10th 2012

I've literally done most of the work on the Earth page, and I have a request of you on it. For the page, I had an idea of adding specific animals that appeared in the show, like bees or dogs. If you could think of anymore, please add them. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:35 PM, March 10th 2012

Unnecessary, you say. How's that? It's documenting animals used in the show, and we an Earth pg (thanks to me), so why not add them. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:54 PM, March 10th 2012

Have an very important request. I've been thinking, and have thought of an Location Template. If able, could you create it, including areas like Name, Image (if available), Creator, Boss, Position (maybe another name)? -- ImperiexSeed, 5:06 PM, March 10th 2012

Actually I wanted you to do it, I'd really appreciate it you did it for me, or rather for the wiki. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:18 PM, March 10th 2012

Yep, it's locked. Sorry for the inconvenience, but I specifically requested for it to be converted simply because a like 10-long paragraph is way too long, no one did fixed it, so I too initiative. I'll unlock it after it's finished. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:50 PM, March 13th 2012

I apologize if what I said came off as harsh, I'm just really frustrated that with all the capable users here, not one of them helped. I'm sure you've been busy, so this isn't really directed at you, but it needs to get done. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:07 PM, March 13th 2012

Do you approve of my changes to Zachariah's page? Hey, could you please add you thoughts on my angels being capable/incapable of using super speed question, on the blog. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:!6 PM, March 14th 2012

Not a problem, anytime I can help out, I will. Sure, Zachariah will be re-added. Yep, I'm sure; thing is, Death didn't really do anything to be villain-worthy, he didn't even follow through with his task, nor did he bring harm to the Winchesters. All he is a hallucination, he's not even there, therefore he can't be considered an actual villain. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:08 PM, March 18th 2012
Chat?: The Twilight of Your Despair 19:52, April 10, 2012 (UTC)


Huh, seems legit. Although, out of all the monsters seen, literally more than half of them possess it, what I'm trying to say, is that it'd be really redundant. That is unless you, or whoever edits it, could provide descriptions for each possessor. -- ImperiexSeed, 9:04 PM, March 20th 2012

Perfect, then. Oh, when you say categories, you mean like headings. Well Vampires possess all enhanced senses, just wanted to make that clear, same with Werewolves. Hey, I know they really haven't displayed it, but would you say that Archangels possess it? Um, I'd be happy to make the pg. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:45 PM, March 21st 2012

Glad I could help. "Not what you had in mind", what, did I do something wrong? Probably not, I think that was more of his omniscience. -- ImperiexSeed, 8:12 PM, March 22nd 2012

Thanks. Yeah, they are, that's why I did that. That's what I planning on doing, however I was going to do it the other away around, but I need to know the kinetic name for Ailments control. Well whatever you're doing, have some fun. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:06 PM, April 2nd 2012

Well welcome back, dude! I missed you, your edits. Thanks, it's open to editing, however I think I wrote it really well. Well he pointed his hand in the form of a gun, and with a simple "bang", broke Sam's legs, which in a way, is twisting reality. Possibly, however I think he literally meant it, in his position as the King of Hell. Really? That sounds pretty cool, but I'll have to see it to know for sure. Regarding the Wraith, what exactly do you want me to do? -- ImperiexSeed, 7:36 PM, April 6th 2012

Sure, I'll meet you there. Look, Zachariah broke Sam's legs with all with quick "bang" (an iteration), and I can tell you, that does not qualify as Moluckinesis. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:11 PM, April 7th 2012

There's already a place that documents stronger monsters, a heading I myself know what, go ahead and add it, and I'll give you feedback on it. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:17 PM, April 8th 2012

I got it. I separated them into fields of strength, by High Level Monsters, Middle-tier Monsters, and Average Monsters. How is that? -- ImperiexSeed, 3:50 PM, April 8th 2012

What in the world are you doing? You said you're currently working on it, what's taking you so long? -- ImperiexSeed, 4:28 PM, April 8th 2012

I require you presence on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:46 PM, April 9th 2012

Possibly... Personally, they didn't strike me as very powerful, just monsters, who in that regard, are stronger than humans.

If the source is reliable, and assuming it's the one normally gone to to obtain eps synopses, than yeah, it's right. It'd be great, I just love Archangels. Well, but there was never a fixed number, so it there could be more of them.

Well besides Death, none of the Horsemen are stronger/as strong as an Archangel, it's just that simple, especially since they don't get hungry or sick.

I got nothing. However, the nature of their encounter would depend on the Archangels they meet, I mean, if they're new ones, they could be fine. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:20 PM, April 12th 2012

Please meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:24 PM, April 12th 2012

Hey! From the newest and latest blog, about the two archangels appearing, could you comment on my latest comment? -- ImperiexSeed, 3:56 PM, April 14th 2012


Want to chat?: The Twilight of Your Despair 20:46, April 20, 2012 (UTC)\

I need to speak with you on the chat please.: The Twilight of Your Despair 18:29, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, it's been too long, I'd say. Go to chat, what do you say? -- ImperiexSeed, 6:16 PM, April 28th 2012

Well... it's clay, obviously. Not singularly, only when combined with two other utensils, that is if it's a weapon. Man having been made from this, is highly implausible; as God himself personally created man, also it's clay not skin. Again, it's not something from what something else is made. It being a prophecy, not that's heavily likely, given that there's an upcoming prophet. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:14 PM, April 29th 2012

Meet me on chat! -- ImperiexSeed, 6:19 PM, April 29th 2012

Well thank you. What, what is it? I'm on chat as of 7:49 PM US time Eastern. If I'm not there, just leave it on my respective talk page. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:50 PM, May 9th 2012

As already said, if I'm not on chat, just leave whatever it is we need to talk about, on my talk page. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:10 PM, May 11th 2012

Hey, I'm on chat now. I see you're out an about, so why not meet me there, huh? -- imperiexseed, 1:43 PM, May 12th 2012

...Just meet me there, mostly around 9sih Northeastern time, tonight. Then, I will ready to debate and dabble with ya. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:29 PM, May 19th 2012

Actually, scratch that, I'm available now. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:35 PM, May 19th 2012

Not originally, no. He stalked it (the Devil's existence up to a 'Demon Sunday school story') to mere myth, as of "Are You There, God? It's Me, Dean Winchester". -- ImperiexSeed, 9:10 PM, May 19th 2012

Chat...oh, um, sure. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:43 PM, May 26th 2012

You, mad at me.... Why? General, please, answer me. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:40 PM, June 1st 2012

If it's truthful, then yes. I feel the newly made "The Apocalypse" category is getting out of hand. If anything, a "Apocalypse-based" category would look better. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:20 PM, June 1st 2012

I await you on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:30 PM, June 1st 2012

Superb work. Death's page IS locked, as people would contribute unnecessarily, mainly to it's powers and abilities section. But sure, I'll add 'em. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:35 PM, June 1st 2012

Alrighty. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:36 PM, June 3rd 2012

As just seen (again....), I probably not the guy to be asking/talking about Supernatural, it would seem. Find someone else more qualified. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:48 PM, June 3rd 2012

I was kind of looking for a response, for that^, mainly. -- imperiexSeed, 4:00 PM, June 3rd 2012n

Hmmm.... A picture of many monsters in one picture, maybe; to show a variety, or a capture of several Vampires, or something. -- ImperiexSeed 2:41 PM, June 11th 2012

Thanks. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:54 PM, June 11th 2012
Uh, families? No, I don't consider Djinn, Changelings or the kitsune to be related to one another in terms of sub-species (or interracial), however since they're all children of Eve, technically they are connected. -- ImperiexSeed, 11:23 AM, June 14th 2012
Oh, it seems you accepted, I am not the proper person to be asking me question/advice on Supernatural-related fields. Well done, I'm proud of you. As proven, I know very little about Supernatural, apparently. -- ImperiexSeed, 11:57 PM, June 19th 2012
Do who/what count? Fine, whatever. Ask me, I don't care. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:18 PM, June 2-th 2012

Please, meet me on chat. There's something I need to talk to you about. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:34 PM, June 25th 2012

Dude....I'm on chat. Care meeting me there? -- ImperiexSeed, 3:01 PM, Jun3 28th 2012

Hi, I don't know, maybe some are uninterested, and that's unfortunate as it's apparent that you spent some time on it, or people aren't thinking to. I think you did a pretty good job ranking and classing them. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:24 PM, July 6th 2012

Neither. No, it's not Biokinesis or Reality warping. I see it more as inherent invisible ink that's generated under the skin after a deal is made. It makes its first appearance in Weekend At Bobby's, and is therefore introduced. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:05 PM, July 24th 2012

Well, Soul Binding isn't an actual power. It's just a repercussion of a deal being sealed. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:21 PM, July 24th 2012

I need you on chat now. It's quite important. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:49 PM, August 1st 2012

I'll wait. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:06 PM, August 1st 2012

Yes, I guess. You see the forum concerning the potential possibility of me being desyopped, well could you comment? I know we both have worked well together, and would like you opinion. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:20 PM, August 1st 2012


Send it to my email, which is (removed), I'll receive it there. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:53 PM, August 2nd 2012

Nah, as otherwise it'd defeat the purpose of you sending it to me. Just send it to me, and I'll get it there. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:09 PM, August 2nd 2012

Yes, I did get it, however the file attachment you sent requires a download, and to be honest, I don't feel like doing it right now. I assure you it's nothing against you, and I will eventually look at it, and tell you what I think. Thanks, -- Mr. Know-It-All, 6:39 PM, August 2nd 2012
No, not so much. I'm over that, to be honest. So yeah, we can talk. Hey, so Supernatural starts back up again on October 3rd, you excited? -- ImperiexSeed, 7:18 PM, August 16th 2012

Sorry for the inconvenience I may and probably did cause you. I'm on my usual comp, and yes, I have noticed how you've been honing in on Ghost-related edits - and realistically, there's no problem with that. I know for myself, that a lot of my edits revolve around Archangel info, so.... -- ImperiexSeed, 5:16 PM, September 4th 2012

You're so welcome. We're happy you have you back and engaged. It is my job, after all, to assist and direct this wiki's users in any way necessary. I'm happy to have been of service to you. -- ImperiexSeed, 12:44 PM, September 10th 2012

I need you on chat now. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:30 PM, September 11th 2012

I require you on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 9:45 PM, September 12th 2012

We have a serious problem. Meet me on chat as soon as possible. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:42 PM, September 13th 2012

We have a serious problem. Get on chat as soon as you can. By the way, is you mom's name Michelle? -- ImperiexSeed, 9:39 PM, September 14th 2012

Can you meet me on chat? -- ImperiexSeed, 6:33 PM, October 10th 2012

Re:Wincest deletion?[]

Hi, seeing as you were one of the involved editors, your input here at Talk:Wincest#Deletion? would be appreciated. I should also point out that it isn't really appropriate to remove content from a page that has a speedy deletion tag on it because:

  1. Anyone can put a speedy deletion tag, it doesn't necessarily mean it will be deleted
  2. The reviewing administrator has to actually see the content on the page to see whether it merits deletion (in some cases, this doesn't apply, but for Wincest, it certainly did).

Cheers. Calebchiam Talk 10:16, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

I don't really mind if you feel a need to fight tooth to nail on this, but I should point out that Wikis are built upon the spirit of compromise, which is a pretty good ideal to uphold in any discussion. Calebchiam Talk 02:19, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

Good news![]

I think I've solved the problem, or suppressed it at least; I snagged this old metallic cross I had put away, and put it around my neck, and instantly my problems went away. But, without hesitancy, which suggest I was never possessed, just oppressed. Still, keep me uplifted in pray. Thanks for all your time and patience. -- ImperiexSeed, 1:41 PM, September 16th 2012

I need you on chat now! -- ImperiexSeed, 2:18 PM, September 17th 2012

Mind i you meet me on chat? -- ImperiexSeed, 2:02 PM, September 18th 2012

I need you you talk to your priest. My friend thinks he accepted the mark in his mind and now can't get the Anti-Christ out of his head. Does this mean he worships him? -- ImperiexSeed, 4:45 PM, September 18th 2012


Hey. Since the discussion has come to an end and it seems that the consensus reached is that we will move the information to the Sam and Dean articles, feel free to make the changes. I will delete Wincest when it is done.

As for third-party sources, I take it that you have limited experience with Wikis, but 'canon' isn't relevant when discussing them. The word 'third-party' says it all. It is meant to be outside of the show. Furthermore, the fact that it is mentioned outside of the show's creators (i.e. and Entertainment Weekly) only further reinforces a topic's notability.

I don't really care for making enemies online either, and if that wasn't the impression I gave, I apologise. However, this is not a trivial matter.

" I think your a good admin, you (as do I) mearly go to far sometimes.", I take some offence at this statement, but I don't think your intentions were bad.

However, since you have agreed that we both want what is the best for the Wiki, let me be frank with you.

The reason why I have been vehemently against your own position is because I have done a lot of work on Wikis before. I have about 26,000 edits globally, and I've seen many policies implemented on different Wikis. I have also seen Wikis rise or fall as a result of these policies.

I cite my experience on these Wikis not to say that my opinion is necessarily more correct than yours, or that I am the ultimate authority on what is going on in the Wiki. But the fact of the matter is that I have quite some experience in helping Wikis grow.

Wincest may seem like a trivial issue, but the discussion we just had there has widespread ramifications. Documenting culture is one of the aspects of a great Wiki, and limiting ourselves to some kind of 'facts-only' mindset will only hurt the Wiki in the long run. Thankfully, we have agreed to keep the information, however not choosing to allow these aspects to have their own separate articles will have a much greater impact in the future. (Stay around and you will see this happen.)

I am guessing that the Supernatural Wiki is your first experience with Wikis? I don't fault you for your lack of knowledge on Wiki procedures, it is unavoidable. That being said, I urge you to reconsider your stand in the future if such issues ever crop up again.

I don't believe I have ever gone beyond reason in sticking to my views. What will make or break Supernatural Wiki is the policies its users decide to implement. This is what decides whether we are a mediocre Wiki, or a great Wiki. I'd be glad to hear your thoughts on this. Cheers. Calebchiam Talk 09:58, September 21, 2012 (UTC)

Meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 1:57 PM, September 21st 2012

I need your help! About the demonic possession thing (you know who I'm talking about), he's smelling weird smells now, thinking bad things and his organs aren't working. He's still wearing his metallic cross. What do you thinks going on? -- ImperiexSeed, 8:33 PM, September 21st 2012

Once again....I need your help. I would appreciate it if you came, but you don't have to. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:56 PM, September 23rd 2012


FYI, copying content from one article to another on this Wiki is not plagiarism. It is perfectly fine to use the same wording, anything on this Wiki is free for us to use under the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike License 3.0 (CC-BY-SA), so there's no need to rephrase the text. Cheers. Calebchiam Talk 13:20, September 25, 2012 (UTC) Can you invoke a demon in your mind? I think a certain individual (you know who I'm referring to) said it in his mind, and now it seems like he's possessed. Again this certain individual has OCD, so it makes it pretty hard. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:40 PM, September 28th 2012:

Could you, if at all possible, look up more of what we talked about last night. This person's mind seems to be looping respulsively, and is thinking things he shouldn't. I And I would like to know is he safe? -- ImperiexSeed, 1:57 PM, September 29th 2012

I'm on chat now. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:49 PM, Septemeber 29th 2012

So, did you talk to your priest? The particular individual needs reassurance that he's ok. -- ImperiexSeed, 11:13 PM, October 1st 2012

Can you meet me on chat? -- ImperiexSeed, 4:58 PM, October 6th 2012

Meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 8:06 PM, October 12th 2012

Meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:34 PM, October 19th 2012

Meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:50 PM, October 21st 2012

Meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:37 PM, October 23rd 2012

Meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:58 PM, October 30th 2012

Meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 8:58 PM, November 1st 2012

Hey, General. What's happening, bro? Meet me on chat. -- 2:00 PM, January 5th 2013

Live Chat for Season 8[]

Hi. Feel free to take a look here and leave me a message with your thoughts on whether we should have this 'event' throughout Season 8. I would be okay with this but only if the active users here are able to commit and join the chat as well (lest we face a situation where a new user joins the chat for each broadcast, only to find out that the chat is empty). My timezone makes it impossible for me to commit, so I'd welcome your input as to whether you are able to commit and whether you find this feasible. Cheers. Calebchiam Talk12:21, September 29, 2012 (UTC) e have a serious problem, this person said in his mind get out, and afterards it smelt like roses. Does this send o any red flags? -- ImperiexSeed, 11:01 PM, October 14th 2012 No - please stay.


Hi General MGD 109. It seems that we've both got into an edit war over on the Deities page. I think it's best we talk about any changes we want to make to the article before we do anything else. Therefore i'll stop editting the page until we can come to a consensus and i'm happy for you to revert my changes if you feel them unnecessary. 18:51, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

Ok, have a look at this and let me know what problems you're having. 'God is also a deity, for which he is the central icon of the Abrahamic religions, ( Judaism, Christianity, Islam). However, given the nature of the show, he is seen as a distinct entity in the Supernatural verse and is seen as having more power than the other Deities. Furthermore, according to Kali, she and the other Deities were around long before God. Moreever, although there are many differences between the different Deities in Supernatural, the one characteristic that they all seem to share is there apparent immortality However Death states that just like everything else, God will also die one day and that he will be the one to reap him' As you've said, you beleieve God to be older but there is no such fact in the series that states this. What Kali states, and I quote is 'There are billions of us, and we were here first'. This statement is very ambigious in that it can mean either they were in existence before God or on Earth before him. However it cannot mean that he is older then them. Lucifer also says that God took the Earth from them which supports what Kali said. 19:07, October 24, 2012 (UTC)

enter the chat

I'm dying I just want to ask can you please make a page for me in my last request please Kristin Williams (talk) 20:42, November 12, 2012 (UTC)Kristin Williams

RIP:Kristin Williams

Thank you

What is it that you need? -- ImperiexSeed, 2:!4 PM, November 13th 2012

General. I clicked on the 'Start a Chat!' 3 times to meet you on chat, but, at the moment, something funky is going on with chat. If it's that important, leave it on my talk page and I'll look at it. Thanks, -- ImperiexSeed, 2:29 PM, November 13th 2012
Care to meet on the chat for a few?[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 19:26, November 26, 2012 (UTC)

I'm going to have to say no. Sorry, but in the span of the entire series, no hunter have ever talked about or mentioned what's referred to as Benevolent ghosts. They're not characterized as friendly, practically--they're strictly embodiments of Violence, Vengeance/Anger, etc. You're a wonderful editor, but but in my opinion, we don't really need a page dedicated to what's referred to as Benevolent ghosts. -- ImperiexSeed, 8:26 PM, December 9th 2012

Sorry to entangle you into this, but I'd very much appreciate you approach on this. This user named Battlelord and I have been having some discussion on the Season Six Plot holes blog. Apart of it, I think you pitched in somewhere and said we're both right. It's gotten to the point where he started calling me names and excessive profanity. He called Chuck--Supernatural's version of the All-powerful Lord--a Scientist, and I said that's wrong because the occupational of a scientist implies he doesn't know what's going to become of it, which is wrong when concerning an Omniscient being. And as you know, he formulates claims and proclaims the, 'The way it is'. Take the 'Knife being a hand-to-hand variant of the Colt' thing. As you know, I got a low fuse, and his persistent name calling and cussing got me inflamed, and I got in on the name calling. Please leave your comment on the blog. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:20 PM, December 18th 2012


If you have, some time to spare want to chat on the chat?[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 21:16, January 28, 2013 (UTC) Sorry about that I was at my office computer and we lost wireless..., again. Now I am on my mobile but when I get home and if your still on Ill get on the chat. Sorry again.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 22:39, January 28, 2013 (UTC)\

Chat please, if you have a second. Will only take a second, as cannot stay too long.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 22:23, February 15, 2013 (UTC)

Did you at least read my page before you erased it? I think it was a good page that described all areas of witchcraft which is what the page is suppose to be about. I hope you go back and read it if you haven't. Maybe then you'll see it was a good article.

I'll admit Voodoo hasn't had much depth. However, bright and dark magic, hoodoo, and wicca have all been explained throughout the series. Dark magic and Hoodoo was introduced during the beginning of the series, bright magic wasn't explained until much later. And wicca was recently introduced last season. All of the information listed was sited from the series, not speculation.

Blog Magus, when you have time. You thoughts, please?[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 01:56, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

blog comment[]

I can't comment on your power listing blog for some reason

Princepurple (talk) 21:39, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Same here, although my response would be just a link to my blog about it,  containing this:

Power scale WIP1.jpg

Legend on how to read the graph is in the blog.


I'm sorry, I assumed you were an admin along with imperialix, with your name being in red and seeming high esteem on here

Princepurple (talk) 21:53, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

hey if your still on go to chat.

Princepurple (talk) 22:36, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I had a look, but I don't exactly know what's wrong; I visited another blog, and the commenting box was there, so....I don't know. No matter, I'll figure it out. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:10 PM, February 23rd 2013
If I may interject, General, I believe the reason why your name is in red is because you do not have a profile. When I hover the curser over "Profile" on your page or your name "page does not exist" appears, similar to a link to a nonexistent page. 13:33, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
are you online? im in chat
Princepurple (talk) 20:12, February 24, 2013 (UTC)
You're welcome, General. 01:36, February 25, 2013 (UTC)


Have time, for chatting on the wikia chat?[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 21:51, February 25, 2013 (UTC)

Two pages I've made recently (of, let's see....on March 6th)[]

Theses two pages, Chronokinesis and Thermokinesis, I created because they, as an ability, pretty much stand in themselves as simply an extension of an ability. Chronokinesis>Time Travel, Thermokinesis>Weather Manipulation. Do you personally think I made the right move? -- ImperiexSeed, 1:30 PM, March 7th 2013

Chat and Information[]

General, if you got a second time care to get on the chat, it kind of important. Not, serious but still.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 21:01, March 7, 2013 (UTC)


I apologize if you got this message twice, Google Chromo is being crappy again. Care to get on the chat?[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 21:02, March 7, 2013 (UTC)

Hey could you meet me on chat? -- ImperiexSeed, 4:07 PM, March 8th 2013

Hey, could you meet me on chat? -- ImperiexSeed, March 10th 2013

There was a certain quotation in "Goodbye Stranger" where the man said something along the lines of his possessed wife didn't break a sweat, who was digging for hours. Could you find that please, and add it to Super Stamina's page? -- ImperiexSeed, 6:07 PM, March 25th 2013

Ty. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:12 PM, March 25th 2013


Why is it so hard for you to spell possess correctly? Gerrnig (talk) 19:54, April 3, 2013 (UTC)

Sounds more like laziness to me. It's not like there is auto correct or anything. Gerrnig (talk) 13:18, April 4, 2013 (UTC)

Crowley's declamations[]

Crowley says, in "Taxi Driver", "I'm everywhere", and later, "I'm forever." This, to me, says two things. 1) He's Omnipresent--which is impossible, as only something infinite can occupy every space in the universe, such as God. And, frankly, Crowley is a created being. And, 2) He will live through the end, the time when Death claims he'll reap God. What are your thoughts? -- ImperiexSeed, 1:42 PM, April 4th 2013

Yes, he's immortal, but every living thing, including Archangels, at some point, will be reaped by Death. That's his job--to 'slew' any form of life. -- ImperiexSeed, 1:50 PM, April 4th 2013

Ok, dude - why, suddenly, are you ignoring my edits?! What, are you like mad at me? Honestly, I see no appropriation to this. We're friends, I thought. -- ImperiexSeed, 1:52 PM, April 29th 2013

To me, it seems like you're legitimatley dumbfounded. I'll give you an instance, on the Hellhound's talk page - I responded, but you didn't. Go - look. -- ImperiexSeed, 1:58 PM, April 29th 2013

Whenever you're ready, meet me on chat. Thanks. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:09 PM, May 3rd 2013


As shown here you clearly don't know how to use there/they're/their properly either. Gerrnig (talk) 17:35, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

You're getting on my nerves making rookie mistakes that takes about 20~ second to learn. Why is it so hard? If you know your spelling is terrible, then why not work harder to improve it? I have to sit here and clean up after you, just because you cba to look up the difference between there and their. Gerrnig (talk) 18:25, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, also, look up the difference between your and you're when you're on it. Gerrnig (talk) 18:25, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

That's bull and you know it. There and their aren't similar in use at all. There is no way you could mess it up if you actually know how to use them. I'm not trying to be rude, I'm just pointing out your mistakes to you, yet you act like a whiny kid about it. Why so conflict scared? Never been criticized before? Do you complain when your English teacher corrects you as well? Gerrnig (talk) 18:36, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sorry that I came off as aggressive, but every time I ever correct someone on a Wikia they always pull the "Dyslexia"-card on me, and therefore consider themselves exempt from criticism in all shapes or forms. Your English seems good overall, so I assumed you were just another card abuser, not giving a crap about your grammar. I'm sorry if I offended you, it's just that I'm used to way harsher forums than this one, where everyone bashes everyone for anything so being a bit aggressive just comes naturally when someone screams dyslexia for the fiftieth time. I won't bother you unless it's something you do really often from now on, promise! I originally meant no harm, I just noticed an awful lot of "posses" in the articles on this forum, and thought I would inform you.

Friends (Or at least not enemies trying to go Rugaru on each other)? :) Gerrnig (talk) 18:48, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

While talking of plot holes/inconsistencies - Reapers[]

When watching this show I got the impression that reapers are pretty much unkillable, and that only Death could kill them. Yet Crowley, a powerful crossroads demon, managed to kill one with an angel blade. I thought that was quite odd, since I assumed they were already kind of dead. Is this another wood chipper story or is it an inconsistency? A fun way to look at it could be that rogue reapers have been turned mortal by Death, I guess.

Either way, the Reapers article needs some editing. Currently it says "Reapers can also be imprisoned, and warded off by spells (Enochian runes or symbols), however nothing other than Death or God can permanently stop them". This is obviously not true, since the reaper feared Crowley, presumably because he knew fully well he could permanently kill/disable him. Which Crowley eventually did. Gerrnig (talk) 18:59, April 6, 2013 (UTC)

== New Blog ==

Check out

When you have time.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 01:04, April 20, 2013 (UTC)

You douche.[]

What are you treating my like this, you lil' fuck?! I thought you and I were friends. You intentionally surveyed over my comment, on Zachariah's talk, and jumped directly to that other guy's comment. It's obvious, now, that you are ignoring me. You're efficiently reciprocating everyone else's comments but mine. ImperiexSeed, 5:15 PM, May 5th 2013

Nice try, bub. That's no reason, because, in the past, you've agreed with me in a response. So, that "counter productive" excuse - it's crap. Meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:25 PM, May 5th 2013

I'm going on chat, could you meet me? -- ImperiexSeed, 2:38 PM, May 6th 2013

About Abaddon[]

Oh, Astaroth. Somehow I was reading "Alastor." I had no idea that Tammi's demon was ever named (according to the talk page, she was given a name in the Season 3 companion; kinda makes me wonder how much more extra information is lying around in those things); my bad! Ensephylon (talk) 23:40, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

I have six out of seven and there is alot of info that we wouldn't have known otherwise Self-Declared God of Supreme Conduits (talk) 00:09, May 11, 2013 (UTC) Kesslerbeast

Castiel - power section[]

Death stating Castiel is a mutated angel appears 6 times in the entire article, and at least twice of which already appears in the soul-boosted section. Seeing it again in the Nigh-Omnipotence ability makes no more sense, I think the point has been stressed out enough already. FTWinchester (talk) 19:20, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Nope. Not exaggerating. Hit search on the page of castiel and you will see 'mutated (angel)' is in the article six times. It is literally overused, and although phrased differently, does little to add more information other than what is already implied the first three times 'mutated (angel)' has been used to describe his abilities and powers. FTWinchester (talk) 00:42, May 26, 2013 (UTC)


Sorry, I was actually going with a game I played called Age of Mythology...In that the Egyptians use a sea creature called Leviathan.RaghavD The One and Only 07:29, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

== Yo


Want to get on the Chat if you got sometime?[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 19:07, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Tense Usage[]

Hello. Imperiex and I were just wondering if you would like to be one of the advocates for the creation and policing proper tense usage in the wiki? It's mainly about ensuring narrative articles are in the past tense, and that other users/contributors know about this. It would really be great if you join us in this campaign/crusade or whatever you call it. Please leave a message on my or Imperiex's talk page. The forum on tense guidelines/policy is hereFTWinchester (talk) 02:26, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Awesome, thanks! FTWinchester (talk) 21:23, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Rising Son talk[]

I think I may have inadverdently overwrote on your comment in the talk page on Supernatural:Rising Son, Canon section. Sorry about that. FTWinchester (talk) 19:13, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

initiate priest[]

Do you know the name of the initiate priest of Max Thompson? Can you create his page if you do? Thanks. FTWinchester (talk) 20:42, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. FTWinchester (talk) 20:47, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

It is! I'll just add a few more information. Thanks, again! FTWinchester (talk) 21:13, June 9, 2013 (UTC)


Thank you General :)RaghavD Taking the ROAD less travelled 03:59, June 21, 2013 (UTC)


I re-add God to the page, as it was never officially said and ppl kept re-adding, moving, or removing God from the deities page. 

I put him in a small part under history. 

Despite numerous deities appearing in Supernatural. The most predominant deity in Supernatural is the one that serves as the center icon of the Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam), who is referred to as God. God is credited as the oldest deity having existed with Death at the Beginning of Time, and believed to be all powerful and knowning.

Reason and on the Deities talk page too.

Ok this getting out of hand. So I am going back to policy of canon information. As this wikia is for canon information about the show Supernautral. And God is credited as a deity by his own creations, Angels and Humans. Eve Kali indirectly called him a god. If this page was about, pagan deities ok, but then were would hear about that calling  ever other religion pagan. Example eastern religion icons like in Shintoism pagan is often seen as offensive. As pagan is a European term, and really just an unbrella one at that. So, I am going to redo God in the page. As it's not needed to have a page, just about pagan gods, if the beings of god-like status like Eve and Lucifer are added on the page. As any which way you cut it, God is credited as a deity and the page is listed deities. But, I will message general to directly separate the pagans, beings of god-like status and God from each other on the page. And while another page on another site the super wiki deities page on Supernatural Wikia does the same thing.

Now, I listed ONLY canon, information and I kept to the best of my knowledge any bias remarks in the information about God, from being on the page. That has been my point from the start, report the canon in an none bias manner as much as possible. God is credited as a deity, add to the deities page somewhere simple to me, God is credited as being the oldest god having existed by at the beginning of time with Death simple to me, and finally is believe (which is a word to not show my own reliigion beliefs) that he is all powerful and knowning. As the statement about Death reaping him isn't really important here. So I hope this ends the fight. And I am not trying to put any agendas, just I try to follow policy about making articles about canon info, about the series.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 05:36, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Well, Rag said it was fine my edit and doesn't need to be undo. And I don't think we should name them pagan, as then I bet you any amount of money, someone will come along and say that pagan is rude to call all none  Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam) them. And that is what I am trying to see. But here is my compromise. That we leave, God in the history as he is called a god but is separate from the pagans thus, we don't have to deal with ppl saying that he is the only deity, if the deities page is renamed or for only pagan ones. And that we keep the beings of god status on, but only state what gives them a god status.

But, I am open to even mention God and the others in trivia only, if he cannot be on the main parts of the page. As which way you say it, God is a deity has he is a icon in Abrahamic religions (Judaism, Christianity, Islam). Just, we will always have the unsigned wikia edit something, that is a touchy subject. But. I firmly think that all deities pagan, thus of status and God should be long on the page. As I made the page with the intention of listing ALL deities or of the like.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 21:43, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

Oh, it's soooo been a long time. But, I cannot let go; editing Supernatural's wiki is a passion of mine. Well, how's the General holding up? I'm not on as much anymore because I don't, at present, have my own laptop and I use public computers when I can. I hope you're doing well and you're doing a great job holding everything together. Would you be interested in becoming one of this wiki's sysops, or no? -- ImperiexSeed, 10:51 PM, September 16th 2013

Oh, hey, meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 1:47 PM, September 16th 2013

Re: Angels[]

The category includes angels with (i) immense power, (ii) special role and/or (iii) high rank (political/organizational power, not innate ability). The conditions are and/or. Virgil is a "Weapons Keeper of Heaven" and described as the "nastiest" angel under the command of Raphael--indicating at least two of the conditions applying to him (or even all three, arguably). Ion, Nathaniel and Esper, I also had doubts at first, but, this is Ion's line about their group: "You soldiers, down in the garrison, at least they let you believe the lie. Upstairs, working for Naomi, working in intelligence, we had no option but to live in the dirt. She never reset me completely." They were in the intelligence division, and described as "upstairs", also the term frequently used to connote higher angels who knew of Heaven's plans to let the Apocalypse continue. The line of Ion clearly connotes the soldiers or 'grunts' are below the rank of the intelligence division. Angels working in the intelligence division are not (i) immensely powerful, but they do satisfy (ii) specialized roles and (iii) high rank. Not as high as the archangels, but obviously higher than even garrison leaders. But I'm open to discussion. I just couldn't see you in chat at the moment? FTWinchester (talk) 17:54, September 21, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Tracking Spell[]

Any particular reason you removed the photo on the angel tracking portion of the Tracking spell page? FTWinchester (talk) 01:20, September 26, 2013 (UTC)

No worries. FTWinchester (talk) 01:22, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

I'll take time and do that, yes. Wait, where is this conversation located? -- ImperiexSeed, 3:02 PM, October 3rd 2013

Thanks, but there's no page by that name; there's a page on churches, but not a started talk page. I'd appreciate a direct link on my talk page, thanks. I'm also available to chat if you want. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:12 PM, October 3rd 2013

Meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:22 PM, October 30th 2013


Dean's view was lopsided because he was trying to make it seem that Sam was listening to a crazy person, so Sam would stop asking about what intrigued the Shaman to have him as a meal. However, in the Shaman's own words, he said he started to become predatory as a result of the animals he ate. Both are opinions, actually, but when you think of it, the Shaman's explanation made more sense, as opposed to Dean's (also consider how Dean made lousy excuses during Cstiel's death and Charlie's resurrection to make it seem like everybody else was just disoriented, confused or dazed after suffering from an attack). FTWinchester (talk) 22:38, November 6, 2013 (UTC)

Can we meet on chat? -- ImperiexSeed, 1:50 PM, November 21st 2013

Hey, it's been a while, hasn't it? Is it possible angels can teleport faster than others, or is it genuinely identical? 'Cause in "Point of No Return," Dean says to Cas, "You're fast," and Cas says, "They're faster." We know Cas can cover immense distances in seconds. But, we've seen weak angels, such as the secretarial, move from one place to another instantly. Is there a difference and how does that dialogue make sense otherwise? -- ImperiexSeed, 4:56 PM, December 17th 2013

Thank you for clearing that up. However, if that was the case (his powers diminished due to being cut-off), why didn't Cas just say, "I'm weakened, remember?" instead of acting like they're just faster naturally? Is there really different speed ratios among angels? However, I notice no real difference when Cas teleports then when others do. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:31 PM, December 17th 2013

norse and greek deities are same check history wikipedia expend your mind

castiel cut theo's throat he didnt angel powers,the grace are sentient,when ıts released ıt located nearest thing relative about heaven oh and jannat is other name for heaven

I think I've flexed out all my views on Cain, but I'll do my best to convey my perception of the character. Cain's character alone doesn't conflict with canon while Lilith's time as a human is almost impossible, with how that can accord in a timeline. A coexistence between a group of humans, as you proposed, is inconsistent with the portrait used from Genesis, which supernatural sticks to on some level. Cain seems unmatchable in terms of fighting his own kind, save Lilith. Cain possesses so much power, that he's able to take on hordes of demons at a time and manage to smite them all before he's even touched. -- ImperiexSeed, 8:06 PM, January 23rd 2014

What's the discussion about on vengeful spirits? I could probably clear that up. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:07 PM, February 12th 2014

This could be a bit mushy cause I haven't seen the episode in a while. She wasn't acting out of vengeance, but as a violent ghost, she mercilessly massacred those who picked on her boy. Her actions prove her to have been a violent ghost not a vengeful one. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:19 PM, February 13th 2014

Are you ignoring me here, General, or like I (can) do, did it not warrant reciprocation in response? Not that other's can't have their own opinions, but there's absolutely nothing to substantiate that she was a vengeful ghost apposed to a just ticked off, angry one. -- ImperiexSeed, 8:28 PM, February 15th 2014


Been awhile how are you? And when you have a sec, can you give a few comments for my newest blog? And if what is written on the blog itself, hard to understand. Just read the comment treads between Imperiex and I. The details of the blog are in summation there, thanks,[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 23:14, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

I need help[]

Okay general, I know i have edited things but to be honest, I am a noob at the more technical contribution stuff, i don't know How to add links to other articles, add photos, or how the average page is usually crafted, can you please give me some advice please???

Princepurple (talk) 23:58, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

I crafted the Oberon page, please take a look and tell me what you think and edit it or instuct me how to Improve it.

Princepurple (talk) 00:49, February 1, 2014 (UTC)


on my contrabutions page, what are the +green numbers and -Red numbers???

Princepurple (talk) 22:08, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, you read my story upto now??

Princepurple (talk) 22:22, February 3, 2014 (UTC)


Imperi.. I forget, not out of disrespect, but please, I don't know how i'm upsetting him, but can you take a look at the talk page on 'white light' and tell me if you think im being out of order, as i can get irritated if i think someone is being hostile in any way, your council and wisom on past situations make me think you can help, im too young to allow arrogance to tempt my judgement, thanks.

Princepurple (talk) 23:08, February 3, 2014 (UTC)

Super hearing or cosmic awareness?[]

The episode "Mystery Spot" seems to faintly incriminate an appearance of super senses in super hearing by Gabriel, however such may not be the case, depending. I know it's not stout, but take a look. In the episode, after Sam's noggin finally gleans what they're dealing with when he notices the syrup, before he can catch up, The Trickster throws him back in time. Either this was cosmic awareness or super hearing. And we know angels possess super hearing, when Castiel hears Dean and Sam talking from another room in "Goodbye Stranger." Which one do you think it was? -- ImperiexSeed, 12:01 AM, March 4th 2014

I think I know why you're no longer answering me, cause of the time I called you a "lil' fuc*" and it was mean and I'm sorry. Let's try an pick up this friendship as best we can. So, what's your thoughts on my question up above? -- ImperiexSeed, 4:25 PM, March 4th 2014

I'd like to see you on chat when you get this. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:16 PM, March 5th 2014

I think my initial thought of Horsemen simply being concepts prior to season five was skewed today in another direction-in "Death Takes A Holiday," Alastair says they're all jonesing for the apocalypse, and 'feeling' of any type confirms consciousness, so they're something like spirits. What they represent can be seen as at many places at once, while the Horsemen itself has a localized existence. They must've existed in some conscious way even before season five. Any ideas? Also, what's your personal opinion on what Horsemen use to take form-are they constructions, illusions, or vessels? War's comment alone pretty much says that they construct their form, but Hell, I'm in an open mood at the moment. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:43 PM, March 6th 2014

Could you please go to the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse page and tell me what you think? I did a rewording of pretty much the whole page except for some thick paragraphs that were already there. I still need to work on Death and Pestilence's sections on the page, but a scouring sometime would be much appreciated. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:57 PM, March 7th 2014

Mind doing me a favor and comment on whether or not Heaven's dungeon should be a page on its talk page? "Dean.wincherstor.54," the user who created it, would really like your opinion on it. -- ImperiexSeed, 1:21 AM, June 3rd 2014

Hey, it's me, Larry1996, listen I need your help, can you convince Magma Dragoon to give me one second chance, please? Take a look at what I was blocked for: [1]

Larry1996 (talk) 03:28, May 19, 2014 (UTC)

RLV Wiki[]

Okay, I'm on the RLV Wiki now. (talk) 22:42, October 23, 2014 (UTC)robinsonbecky

Not Hell[]

Can you please post a picture of the tweet confirming that that isn't Hell? Crowley said something hat implied they were in Hell in "Soul Survivor" EmpyreanSmoke (talk) 02:27, February 5, 2015 (UTC)

Hello! I've noticed you seem to be one of the primary contributors to the Supernatural Wikia pages and I was wondering if you knew how to create a comments section or maybe a General Discussion section with the fans. I have a lot of questions about Supernatural (especially the witches) and I was wondering if you could help me reach out to other fans in order to ask questions and whatnot. Please and thank you.

You might have to ask an admin about that, but the closest I've seen is if you create a blog post. To do you just need an account, find a blog and it will offer you the option to make on.General MGD 109 (talk) 11:03, February 7, 2015 (UTC)

A special thank you and goodbye![]

I'm leaving this wiki, but not cause of you. It was nice getting to work with you, and thanks for being my friend, you were great co-editor to work with. Goodbye mate! -- ImperiexSeed, 11:45 PM, May 27th 2015


Hey! Could you meet me on chat? There's something I'd like to discuss with some users. Tysonjackson (talk) 01:28, May 29, 2015 (UTC)


Hey! Here's what I wanted to discuss with everyone! :D Tysonjackson (talk) 01:38, May 30, 2015 (UTC)