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Hi, welcome to Supernatural Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Reality Warping page.
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Also note that we are in the process of converting articles written in the present tense to the past tense. So you are welcome to edit any such article you come across. Once again, Welcome! Calebchiam (talk) 06:14, April 18, 2017 (UTC)

Shorter LinksEdit

Hello. When you link to other wiki pages can you use short links? By short links I mean: [[Anansi]] and not what you have been doing. Zane T 69 (talk) 23:27, April 21, 2017 (UTC)

Weaknesses SectionEdit

Hey, for a while can you stop editing the Weaknesses section? It is not personal, we will make a major update and change through the Weaknesses part. Thank you for your understanding. I'll let you know when the work is done. SeraphLucifer (talk) 18:47, April 22, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer


Also, adding fon't size and span does nothing but add more clutter and unnecessary burden to load. Zane T 69 (talk) 18:57, April 22, 2017 (UTC)

Please heed my above message. Zane T 69 (talk) 02:36, April 24, 2017 (UTC)


You have been blocked for three days, for removing content from pages; specifically the Super Strength page. Zane T 69 (talk) 21:52, June 16, 2017 (UTC)


You have been blocked for three days, for inserting false information. Don't list entire species' of beings as Assassins. Zane T 69 (talk) 00:47, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

Linking Page NamesEdit

Sometimes you can put page names with a lower-case first letter without creating a red link, you just need to preview the edit to make sure. I thought telling you this might help with future edits. Zane T 69 (talk) 14:13, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Ok Doctor49 (talk) 16:50, July 9, 2017 (UTC)

Listing Boyfriends/Girlfriends as FamilyEdit

You need to stop listing boyfriends/girlfriends as family. Wives/husbands, yes, but not boyfriends/girlfriends. Zane T 69 (talk) 00:19, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

Jessica is listed as family in Sam's page although being his girlfriend Doctor49 (talk) 22:27, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

So I thought I had to do it, sorry. Doctor49 (talk) 22:32, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

She's listed under affiliates and family, but I'll remove her from the second. Zane T 69 (talk) 22:48, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

So girlfriends and boyfriends i will list in affiliates only from now on. Doctor49 (talk) 23:05, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, and hopefully stop putting the span stuff in articles. It literally does nothing. Zane T 69 (talk) 23:18, July 22, 2017 (UTC)


I will block you for a month if you make another unconstructive edit.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:14, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

Parent Tab TemplateEdit

Hey, if you have any time, please share your opinion on the current format of Dean's page. Thanks! Kajune (talk) 19:03, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

I liked Doctor49 (talk) 22:57, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Supernatural Page's Creatures ListEdit

You need to ask Zane T that, not me. --Kajune (talk) 04:57, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. Doctor49 (talk) 05:00, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Yes, that should be okay, just emulate the rest of the pages style. Zane T 69 (talk) 15:09, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Fates' PhotoEdit

And what is :File:Thesises-0.jpg|this? It looks like a photo of the fates, but I wasn't sure. Zane T 69 (talk) 15:14, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

I thought so, and actually categorized the image as such, but forgot to edit your talk page again to update you. Zane T 69 (talk) 22:15, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

No problem :v Doctor49 (talk) 22:22, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Red LinksEdit

Try not to create red links, or create links for pages that don't exist, unless you intend to create said pages. It creates a lot of work for admins to clean up. Zane T 69 (talk) 02:08, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

Ok Doctor49 (talk) 03:03, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Regular Animals in the Creatures ListEdit

No, you should not. It's a monsters and creatures list, not a regular species list. Zane T 69 (talk) 04:54, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

Right Doctor49 (talk) 05:01, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

Species ListEdit

Stop adding everything to the Species list dude. I mean you added the Seven Deadly Sins for Chuck's sake!!! I mean really???!!! Those are demons dude!!!--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 06:06, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry, for me was like a species of demons with only 7 members, but ok Doctor49 (talk) 06:12, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

Seriously??? Dude there's no "subspecies" of demons, more like different orders and ranks of them. Hell, Ramiel said that "Prince of Hell" was only a fancy title when Crowley tried to offer him the throne.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 06:23, August 1, 2017 (UTC)


You have been blocked for one month, for making another unconstructive edit; per WG18s warning. Zane T 69 (talk) 14:40, August 1, 2017 (UTC)

Dagon Being a "Prince" or "Princess" of HellEdit

Dagon is officially referred to as a Prince of Hell, so you need to quit saying "Princess". Zane T 69 (talk) 21:11, November 5, 2017 (UTC)

For how long this time? Doctor49 (talk) 21:15, November 5, 2017 (UTC)

Oh! You aren't blocked! You do need correctly refer to Dagon, however, or I will be duty bound to block you. Zane T 69 (talk) 21:25, November 5, 2017 (UTC)

Oh, sorry :v , ok got it Doctor49 (talk) 22:39, November 5, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Strongest of SpeciesEdit

Okay, why do you keep using "if"? Sure, if Dagon, Lilith, Abaddon or any higher ranked demons had a child, then yes, the child will be one of the strongest species but the thing is it hasn't happened. In canon, Jesse is considered one of the strongest species in the series and unless the writers introduce a new character or verbalize that Jesse is in fact not strong, then the category will remain on his page. About Crowley, he's literally just a crossroad demon with a fancy occupation. He can still be killed with things that can usually kill a normal crossroad demon, it only looks like he's above the others of his kind because he has been on the show for a very long time. Touchinos (talk) 23:38, November 20, 2017 (UTC)

Images CategoryEdit

In the future, please don't over-categorize/place redundant categories on images. The plain "Images" category is generally a last resort, I don't know what else to do category. Zane T 69 (talk) 02:42, November 27, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Blog PostsEdit

Thank you for informing one of us, those categories were removed. Zane T 69 (talk) 21:45, November 30, 2017 (UTC)

No problem :v Doctor49 (talk) 22:58, November 30, 2017 (UTC)

Removing wrongfully used categories was an obsession of mine. I thought I should elaborate since I was vague on WG18's wall. Zane T 69 (talk) 23:18, November 30, 2017 (UTC)

Ok Doctor49 (talk) 22:59, December 1, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Creating PagesEdit

A user does NOT require permission to create pages, only categories. Zane T 69 (talk) 22:50, December 2, 2017 (UTC)

Ruler of HellEdit

I was matching the White eyed demon page to reflect other pages, e.g. Archangels, Princes of Hell, which do not have 'King of Hell' but 'Ruler of Hell' instead. Sorry for any trouble caused! Dtol (talk) 00:45, December 4, 2017 (UTC)


You need to watch how you categorize pages. I've had to change several of your edits. Zane T 69 (talk) 01:45, December 5, 2017 (UTC)

RE: Wrong CategorizationEdit

I will deal with that, but you edited my userpage; not my talkpage. Zane T 69 (talk) 01:03, December 13, 2017 (UTC)

Forum TalkEdit

There is a discussion occurring on how we should format the Season pages and the episode summaries. Please join the discussion.Click here --ThomasNealy (talk) 05:01, December 14, 2017 (UTC)

According to the guidelines consensus talks go on for while, I think it was two weeks. Either way one person does not a consensus make. So feel free to add your thoughts. Everyone's opinion matters after all. ThomasNealy (talk) 20:16, December 14, 2017 (UTC)

New Staff Nominations.Edit

Dtol has been nominated for Admin Vote for her HERE .
Zane T 69 has been nominated for Bureaucrat Vote for him HERE

RE: EditorEdit

Oh MY GOD! I can not believe it was that simple. I feel like an idiot. That part of the page was not expanded and until you pointed it out I never noticed the little arrow there. Thank you so much! I have been banging head on wall trying trying to figure it out and getting more and more frustrated every time I looked it. I literally have a twitch in my eye from this. --ThomasNealy (talk) 06:28, December 24, 2017 (UTC)

Sorry About ThatEdit

Sorry I misunderstood what you were going for there. --ThomasNealy (talk) 05:51, January 1, 2018 (UTC)

yea that. It made sense once you explained it--ThomasNealy (talk) 05:59, January 1, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Random QuestionsEdit

I think I can permanently erase an edit, if not I would request wikia do it. We do not allow the uploading of personal photos for userpages and the bulk of your edits should be working on the wiki like editing and generally being of help. Porn is not acceptable here and violates Wikias Terms of Use and should be reported immediately.

Bots are automated programs that do tedious work, it's highly useful and fills a vital position of spell-checker and does a lot of work that users would loathe doing. But yes, your understanding is correct. Zane T 69 (talk) 15:47, January 1, 2018 (UTC)

I think WG18 would be the best person to ask about that, but we generally limit categories due to having to remove duplicate categories. Zane T 69 (talk) 20:52, January 1, 2018 (UTC)

I would prefer having the Bot controlled by a more experienced user. Blaze might be able to do the bot parts for you. He has a bot and knows how to use it and program it, which is essential, we don't know how well you can do that, and it requires a consensus vote to give you the right to use a Bot on this wiki. Zane T 69 (talk) 22:35, January 1, 2018 (UTC)

Yes, you can. Zane T 69 (talk) 23:52, January 1, 2018 (UTC)

RE: SpacesEdit

Hey, I didn't undo your edit completely. I just put spaces between sections so people who edits in Source mode wouldn't have a hard time. I didn't touch the references. Touchinos (talk) 01:05, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Categories SuggestionsEdit

What's your idea for a category??? I kinda always just went for it or asked for advice from an Admin when I was unsure. Generally Zane but you can ask me as well.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 03:13, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

What would you call it exactly??? And The Colt wouldn't apply and neither really would Grenade Launchers since they didn't create those. As for the other question, I don't even remember at this point.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 23:02, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

Too broad I think.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 23:55, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

Too broad. Do their actual creations sure, but not generic items that they use. And frankly, they had the Colt but they never really used it.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:09, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

K.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:39, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

Let's do that.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:56, January 4, 2018 (UTC)

That's mostly fine but not when the entire link is capital like Vengeful Spirit and is in a place where it makes no sense to be completely capital like that.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 04:31, January 6, 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, probably.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 23:28, January 8, 2018 (UTC)


You need to lay off the excessive redirects, it creates more work for us and is completely unneeded. Zane T 69 (talk) 21:53, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

That's not how we do it here and you're creating redirects and double redirects, which is a massive mess to clean up. WG18 has also reverted some of your moves and said this in his summary. I actually considered blocking you because of that. Zane T 69 (talk) 22:20, January 2, 2018 (UTC)

I don't know, I'll look into it. Zane T 69 (talk) 22:40, January 2, 2018 (UTC)


Hey, please refrain from removing the spaces on each section of pages. Especially the ones with a lot of information in it. As one of the many users who prefer to edit in Source mode, it's difficult and it doesn't look very pleasing in the eyes. Thank you. Touchinos (talk) 06:10, January 11, 2018 (UTC)

You also don't have to convert links to utilize redirects on the shorter pages, it's not necessary. Zane T 69 (talk) 19:20, January 15, 2018 (UTC)

So should I run the bot again to replace redirects with proper links?
Orion (T-B-C) 19:26, January 15, 2018 (UTC)

Orion is handling it, if he needs help he can contact you. Zane T 69 (talk) 20:23, January 15, 2018 (UTC)

RE: BotEdit

Sorry, no. I've been busy studying and am currently programming a game. I may get to it tomorrow, if I have the time.

Orion (T-B-C) 00:27, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

Alright, I put the bot on the job while I watch the new episode.

PS: This is actually just basic find and replace. The <small></small>->{[c}} required me to save whatever was in the tags, remove parentheses, and apparently still needs a small fix for when spaces were put between the tags and parentheses, which I didn't foresee. In short, this is much easier.

Orion (T-B-C) 09:28, January 19, 2018 (UTC)


Orion (T-B-C) 10:03, January 19, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Creatures CategoryEdit

I'm not certain, but I have seen them used on the pages of individuals. Keep in mind that Benny (a vampire) and Garth (a werewolf) are both monsters, and not creatures. Zane T 69 (talk) 23:04, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

Sounds about right, and you are free to do that. Zane T 69 (talk) 23:32, January 18, 2018 (UTC)

Talk:Monster#Monsters omitted part 2Edit

The debate on what goes on the monster page has been reopened. Your opinion on the issue would be welcome. you can find the link here Talk:Monster#Monsters_omitted_part_2 Thank you--ThomasNealy (talk) 22:59, January 19, 2018 (UTC)

As one of the participants I thought would like to know that Caleb has posted a Notice of Intent to close the discussion. He has also provided an idea on a compromise since he could see no clear resolution from the debate. Your opinion would be welcome on the matter. Thank You. --ThomasNealy (talk) 18:08, February 11, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Kaia NievesEdit

You deleted her picture and also her power and abilities sub-sections. Dtol (talk) 20:11, January 23, 2018 (UTC)

New Policy DiscussionEdit

A new policy is being proposed you can find more information here and give your opinion here Standard vote options apply. Thank you. --ThomasNealy (talk) 20:47, February 3, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Gog and MagogEdit

Its speculative and can't be included. Frankly, we don't even know that it was drowning and not being wiped out through some other mean during that time.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 01:33, May 16, 2018 (UTC)

RE: TerminologyEdit

Sure, but only for pages that actually define the terms. The "Sword" category doesn't define what a sword is. I could be mistaken, though. We should ask an admin.

Orion (T-B-C) 07:59, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

I think Orion is correct. Zane T 69 (talk) 15:10, June 4, 2018 (UTC)

It's unlocked now. It was locked during the building process. Zane T 69 (talk) 00:36, November 27, 2018 (UTC)


hello ASHLEYB2022 (talk) 12:55, November 29, 2018 (UTC)

RE: Naomi's PageEdit

No problem. I doubted you did that on purpose, you aren't the kind of editor who would purposefully do something like that and I fixed it. I think.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 03:31, December 8, 2018 (UTC)

RE: General WeaknessesEdit

Because they are not the Weaknesses which one lists, somebody once said, list the Weaknesses which are shown in the show. --Mgdodl (talk) 00:08, January 6, 2019 (UTC)

As a rule we only list proven/shown weaknesses specific to a character, but for pages for the entire species you can include all known weaknesses of all of its members but only if the weakness was demonstrated. IE: if a vampire was killed by Death's Scythe then it can kill one. Basically if it was done in the show its okay. This means what I previously said; "We only list proven/shown weaknesses." Zane T 69 (talk) 14:55, January 6, 2019 (UTC)

RE: Editing Seasons' PagesEdit

I fixed it, but it was season 9, not 11. Zane T 69 (talk) 15:15, March 28, 2019 (UTC)

RE: Princes and Knights of Hell CategoriesEdit

Them listing events is fine. You don't need to remove from the category. Zane T 69 (talk) 14:30, April 3, 2019 (UTC)

RE: Wiki ActivityEdit

Images have recently been categorized in massive numbers, which messes it up. It will fix itself once the project is fully completed. This will take time, it's a very large project. Rest assured that I have been keeping watch, as have several other users. Please remain patient. Zane T 69 (talk) 02:58, April 10, 2019 (UTC)

RE: InsightsEdit

I don't know what to tell you about that. A queue is a list of data items in order. I don't actually use the Insights much, users have been keeping the wiki well run. Zane T 69 (talk) 16:22, April 14, 2019 (UTC)

Not all pages need images or have any available. Wanted pages are non-existent pages with red links that still need to be created and given content to remove the red links, so those are good. Basically a to do list in other words. Zane T 69 (talk) 15:53, April 20, 2019 (UTC)

RE: Future Prediction PowersEdit

It should be discussed first, we need others opinions. Zane T 69 (talk) 02:10, April 25, 2019 (UTC)

It would still be a lack of consensus, but hopefully people will get involved. Zane T 69 (talk) 03:09, April 25, 2019 (UTC)

Silver-Immune WerewolvesEdit

I hope you can give me answer to a topic, which is about something in the book Bobby Singer's Guide to Hunting, because I would like to know, whether there's anything written in it, about silver-immune werewolves and also to verify a section on the werevolves page.--Mgdodl (talk) 09:12, October 17, 2019 (UTC)

Btw. I also wanted to tell you, that this user added the "Silver immune werevolves" section in 2015.--Mgdodl (talk) 15:46, October 17, 2019 (UTC)

RE: God/AU ChuckEdit

We need more people to get consensus on the matter. More people should see the talk page, but I can't delete it until consensus is reached. Zane T 69 (talk) 20:39, October 17, 2019 (UTC)
At least five, I think. It'll be soft consensus, but once attention is drawn to the matter you should end up with more in the process. Zane T 69 (talk) 22:09, October 17, 2019 (UTC)


His type is unknown as frankly we don't know for sure that he's black eyes. Also, leave out the Woman in White thing. She slashed him with her claws and he just didn't bother fighting back. Its down in his personality as him apparently being a bit of a coward because that's what that really looked like to me. What I wonder is if he's not one of the White-eyed Demons. He's not red or yellow eyes and his comment suggests that he might not be black eyes either. Although Abaddon wasn't a grunt demon and she was black eyes. But his comments suggest that Belphegor might be really old. On the other Supernatural Wiki, there was a part on the Back and to the Future page where its mentioned that there really was something like Belphegor described with the penis rock but it was back in the Neolithic Era. That's about 5,000 years ago or so. The Neolithic is when Stonehenge was created and no one knows who created that. And his description of humans at the time is much different than people now. And his knowledge of magic is different than anything we've ever seen before. A friend of mine (who frankly is at least a bit insane, no joke) was suggesting Belphegor might come from cavemen times or the Neanderthals but I think that was taking it way too far. He got that from the lumpy people or whatever Bel was describing them as. Also, I think Ardat might be in the next episode. Part of the promo shows what looks like an attractive female kicking what I think was Bel around in the crypt. Presumably Ardat given her hatred and desire to get rid of him. The fact that she thinks Arthur Ketch can kill him though suggests he's not a demon immune to most demon killing methods like the Princes of Hell.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 04:18, October 19, 2019 (UTC)


Jack used the word "Christo", in the sixth episode Optimism of Season 14.--Mgdodl (talk) 07:48, October 19, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, Harper Sayles.--Mgdodl (talk) 07:59, October 19, 2019 (UTC)

RE: Chuck/GodEdit

Sorry for the late reply. It looks like it has been solved the way I agree with. By the way, it would be nice if you could credit me for the header on your talk page. It's exactly the same as mine. Thanks. FTWinchester (talk) 02:48, November 15, 2019 (UTC)

Yeah, I was the one who advocated for banners in this format in the wiki. Thank you for the credit! FTWinchester (talk) 18:17, December 1, 2019 (UTC)


Hey, there's a discussion for admin rights going on, here.--Mgdodl (talk) 18:03, January 18, 2020 (UTC)

RE: History SectionsEdit

Not sure what pages have Early Story on them but Background tends to be the one used most often and frankly makes the most sense I think.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 17:45, February 7, 2020 (UTC)

RE: Merging the Bloody Mary PagesEdit

You can merge it and make the Bloody Mary page a redirect. Zane T 69 (talk) 23:21, February 8, 2020 (UTC)


If you can make a list of pages to be categorize I can add it much quicker. Admin // Dominic1743 (T-C-L) 19:49, February 21, 2020 (UTC)

Re: Pad of Definitions Edit

The Pad of Definitions (which includes Jack Fiddler ) was an official tie-in to the very early seasons of the the show. It is official, but not necessarily canon. This is why I reopened discussion on the citation policy on citing "official" content. The Essential Supernatural was also official content but it is outdated in terms of the show's canon. FTWinchester (talk) 13:33, February 25, 2020 (UTC)

Orphaned PagesEdit

Thank you for checking on the admin dashboard as well and working on orphaned pages. I think this feature is largely underused by other admins. FTWinchester (talk) 20:22, February 27, 2020 (UTC)

Discord Edit

Was wondering if you will be interested in helping out in the new discord server we will have to monitor and possibly block. Let me or User talk:Zane T 69 of your answer.


Admin // Dominic1743 (T-C-L) 00:47, March 2, 2020 (UTC)

To help Monitor/Block when necessary. Are you interested? Admin // Dominic1743 (T-C-L) 23:45, March 2, 2020 (UTC)

Discord Edit

Wanted to let you know we now have a discord and you are welcome to sign up preferably with your existing username.

Thanks! Admin // Dominic1743 (T-C-L) 05:33, March 3, 2020 (UTC)

Alternate UniverseEdit

Could you state your opinion to this topic ?--Gabriel417 (talk) 15:32, June 9, 2020 (UTC)

Loki's KidsEdit

Just because that's how it happened in mythology doesn't mean it matches the show. Don't change Loki to "biological mother" unless that's confirmed in the show.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 23:30, June 17, 2020 (UTC)

  • Unless its confirmed we don't add it.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:12, June 18, 2020 (UTC)

RE: Every Characters Death PageEdit

Hey, I meant the death dates (I was going by the year the episodes came out and I wasn't 100% sure that it was correct) and the links to the other Wikis.221 B Arrow st. Castiel avenue, Gotham (talk) 22:56, June 18, 2020 (UTC)

Heya, so I was looking at your most powerful weapons page, and I was just wondering why you put Death's ring as the highest and not the others? I was just curious why seeing how it has no definite powers (that I have seen (I might be wrong)) Lol just curious.

Im sorry for bugging you again, but just curious why you put Raphael more powerful than Gabriel?221 B Arrow st. Castiel avenue, Gotham (talk) 23:07, June 18, 2020 (UTC)

RE: Anna Milton's Page LinksEdit

I handed it. Admin//Dominic1743 (talk) 06:32, June 27, 2020 (UTC)

in my update on the pg you can see in what way its mentioned in Lucifer Rising, and in Two Minutes to Midnight Death said he's caused floods, as in more than one, therefore indirectly referencing Noah's Flood  

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