Welcome[edit source]

Hi, welcome to Supernatural Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Archangels page.
Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help you with anything!
Also note that we are in the process of converting articles written in the present tense to the past tense. So you are welcome to edit any such article you come across. Once again, Welcome! Twilight Despair 5 (talk) 03:44, December 24, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you! How can I add a profile picture to my page? It won't let me.

Cause.. I like them as actors.. I didn't take these photos, saw someone else's posts online, and decided to post some on my page. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:51 PM, December 29th 2015

God's timeline[edit source]

With season 11, what Death said seems to have been retconned (the Leviathans were the first BEASTS, not necessarily the first creations though). Since the Darkness had to have been sacrificed before God created anything, and the Mark was placed on Lucifer, an archangel, to contain the Darkness, we can't state that Leviathans came before archangels. Saying he had also created the Leviathans, but not stating either the archangels or Leviathans came first solves this. Trip391 (talk) 21:51, December 29, 2015 (UTC)

Survey[edit source]

Hi Darchangel, I am doing sort of a survey, I just want to learn your opinions about my edits, if you could reply I'd be grateful. SeraphLucifer (talk) 18:04, January 25, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Hand of God and Bible[edit source]

What most articles have is a "Lore" section describing what the real-life counterpart for an object/character/species is. This is fine - it's explaining where it came from and highlights the differences between real-world lore and Supernatural lore. What was placed in the Hand of God article, however, is nothing of the sort. It was assuming the real-world Bible is the exact same as in Supernatural (not true), that it's 100% factually correct in the show (also not true), and that the writers created a plothole by claiming the Ark was destroyed in the Flood because it didn't exist then (again, not true; you'd think such a contradiction would set off alarms in Sam's brain). In short, it was contrary to canon.

Orion (T-B-C) 23:24, February 19, 2016 (UTC)

Castiel and time travel[edit source]

The dialogue, word for word:

Castiel: We need him to save Dean.

Sam: You can't time travel.

[Castiel shakes his head]

That's it. That's everything that was mentioned. That's all the confirmed information. Without outside sources stating otherwise, anything more is speculation.

Orion (T-B-C) 20:00, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

When did Lucifer apport anything, by the way?

Orion (T-B-C) 20:24, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

Good point, but Rowena did sabotage the spell intended to keep him locked up, and it is technically his domain, no matter how much Crowley likes to claim otherwise. Why wouldn't he have the power to apport things in Hell? Furthermore, he sent out demons to his crypts, instead of just teleporting there himself. He despises demons; there's no reason why he'd trust them with that information, even if it were to stop Amara, unless he couldn't do it himself.

Orion (T-B-C) 21:28, February 21, 2016 (UTC)

The Darkness and the Bible[edit source]

The Bible makes no reference to entities similar to Amara. She is an all-consuming evil force. The Bible refers to God separating the light and darkness to create day and night (Genesis 1:5 - God called the light "day," and the darkness he called "night." And there was evening, and there was morning--the first day). It also says he created Heaven and Earth prior to the darkness even existing (Genesis 1:1 - In the beginning, God created the heavens and the Earth). The Bible also says God was the first being in existence (John 1:1 - In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God). No other entity to speak of. This is what happens when you try to conflate the Bible with Supernatural lore. It doesn't work because they're not the same; not without, as I put it, considerable twisting.

Other religions, however, speak of an Amara-esque entity; an actual, living being that's all-consuming and existed before everything else.

Orion (T-B-C) 05:20, March 11, 2016 (UTC)

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