In the future, please note, that you are suppose to request permission before creating templates. Even then, implementation requires a vote and not unilateral action. Zane T 69 (talk) 14:57, September 11, 2017 (UTC)

Users are not permitted to remove warnings from their talkpages, you repeating this behavior will be met with a three day block. Zane T 69 (talk) 15:21, October 25, 2017 (UTC)


Watch your edits, you mangled a page and disabled all the code and made a massive wall of text. Don't do that, that is vandalism. Zane T 69 (talk) 18:37, March 30, 2018 (UTC)

Do you use Classic Editor? It would help most of your problems. Dtol (talk) 19:25, March 30, 2018 (UTC)

I don't usually. I edIt on my phone a lot. (Chayne Doss (talk) 21:46, March 30, 2018 (UTC))

To my knowledge, since I edit on my phone when a computer is not available, you can still pull up the code and edit with that. It would ease your confusion with the nav boxes and prevent longer code usage. Dtol (talk) 21:49, March 30, 2018 (UTC)

Please try to make your edits in one go. Dtol (talk) 14:26, April 4, 2018 (UTC)

Reapers as angelsEdit

Hello, Reapers will not be considered as angels anymore. I'd be appreciated if you could stop reverting that. SeraphLucifer (talk) 13:54, April 23, 2018 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Reapers are angels, however, specifically angels of death. They die like angels, act like angels, and they were created to serve death. They are a special class of angel such as the Rit Zien or Grigori. (Chayne Doss (talk) 14:00, April 23, 2018 (UTC))

Yes, I know. We were thinking the same until the last episode, Funeralia. You should also check the talk page, there were many discussions about Reapers being angels long before. Now, it is clear that we cannot count Reapers as angels. SeraphLucifer (talk) 14:05, April 23, 2018 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

They most certainly do not die like angels. We saw an actual reaper "corpse", and there were no wings, nothing. They also do not act like angels. They weren't even affected by the Fall.

Orion (T-B-C) 14:34, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

Cosmic EntityEdit

He called himself a Cosmic Entity, not a Primordial Entity. We have had this debate before and he isn't confirmed to be a Primordial Entity. Zane T 69 (talk) 18:00, April 23, 2018 (UTC)

So I understand what you are saying, but the fact that he existed before creation puts him in the description of a primordial entity, right? Not trying to be rude, just trying to fill in a blank. (Chayne Doss (talk) 17:55, April 24, 2018 (UTC))

It was not stated to have existed before creation; the Empty was. Although I agree with you, the fact remains, we have no proof.

Orion (T-B-C) 18:09, April 24, 2018 (UTC)

Kings of ConEdit

Because it’s not Supernatural related. It isn’t affiliated with The CW or anything. Like I said, if you want you can create your own wikia and do it there. Touchinos (talk) 14:47, April 27, 2018 (UTC

I understand what you are saying, but it is a show created by supernatural actors parodying the lives of the actors behind the show. How is that not SPN related? (Chayne Doss (talk) 15:50, April 27, 2018 (UTC))


That link has the best info for how to make them. You can also copy the info boxes code from here and change the variables. Hope that helps! Also if you copy our other templates or content please remember to credit us as the source.

ThomasNealy (talk) 18:52, May 6, 2018 (UTC)

You need to go to the template and copy it from there and then create new template in your template directory on your site.

ThomasNealy (talk) 18:35, May 8, 2018 (UTC)

If that's you editing your userpage, you need to log in. If not, I'll revert the edits in a couple hours. Please confirm that you made those edits by replying to this message while logged in. Zane T 69 (talk) 16:37, June 20, 2018 (UTC)

Okay, I just needed to make sure. Zane T 69 (talk) 16:45, June 20, 2018 (UTC)

We require enough information before creating a page for something, a title for one thing. All your work did was a create a future mess to clean up, create potential excess redirects, and make you look like a child wanting to get there first and wanting to boost your edit count and "Articles created" list. Zane T 69 (talk) 21:43, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

And reverting an admins edits that clean up your mess will only get you in trouble and give people an even lower opinion of you. Zane T 69 (talk) 21:47, January 3, 2019 (UTC)


Recently we've been plagued by a vandals who used former Vice President Cheney's first name as an insult. You were the first person caught in the net designed to better protect the wiki. I apologize on behalf of the Admin team. We were trying to protect the wiki and reduce attacks and improve our ability to undo the damage faster. We've blocked over 55 accounts since this started, all sock-puppets and throwaway accounts and IPs. Please avoid using that name on wiki until it can be fixed by Caleb. Zane T 69 (talk) 16:31, February 11, 2019 (UTC)


Hello the reason I reverted your edits was because of no source. In the future please add the source to avoid this. Dominic1743 (talk) 23:17, February 28, 2019 (UTC)

If you don’t mind could you include the website that you got it from please. Dominic1743 (talk) 00:07, March 1, 2019 (UTC)

I don't think that they merit categories of their own. Zane T 69 (talk) 00:14, March 1, 2019 (UTC)


Hi, your summaries, albeit not all exact, however, I have tried on multiple occasions to put the summaries up for these seasons, unfortunately there are some right bullies on this site and they take them down stating this are "fans views" 1st of all this is actually now a "Fandom" which also means fanzone lol anyway although this is official information, I wouldn't bother trying to add it, they just take it down, as they do everything, they enjoy ruining peoples days, if you continue adding it they will suspend you account as they did mine for 60 days last time, Im sorry about your experience and that this site is run by bullies, but there is nothing you, I or anyone else can do. (User:Ivonkingsley)

She was removing content from pages and edit warring, as an experienced user she is expected to take such disputes to a talk page for resolution and not edit war. Our summary had more content and was more informative, but she is an experienced user and expected to take it to a talk page for a reasoned debate.

As for "bullies running the site...." You broke a rule and you were punished and you even admitted to retaliatory vandalism. You have consistently demonstrated a belief that you shouldn't have to obey our rules and accuse us of bullying for requiring you to abide by them like every other user. You're the bully, not us. Your post here was nothing more than slander by a bully trying to cause trouble because someone dared to hold him accountable for his actions and instead of accepting responsibility you simply spread lies and defame our character as an act of childish anger and poorly thought out revenge.

All you've done is destroy your own reputation. If a user breaks a rule they get punished or warned accordingly and all users are expected to adhere to our rules with no exceptions; including Admins and Bureaucrats. You arrogantly believing that you alone deserve an exemption to them is childish, ignorant, and incredibly unfair to the other users. Zane T 69 (talk) 16:58, March 12, 2019 (UTC)

I would like to say that, first of all, I am most definetly not a "she". As for second, people go to those season pages to get an overview of what they are going to see in that season. If they want spoilers, they would go to specific episode pages. Spoiling everything on the main page is honestly just simply unneccesary. The summaries I put are the summaries from the backs of each seasons DVD set, which I own all 13. Personally, I feel that I was cleaning up a mess. As for User:Ivonkingsley, I believe that his opinion should not be counted as a bully's opinion. I have seen on this site that the moderators and admin feel like everything they do is right, and anyone below them doesnt count. I think thats more the point he was trying to make. As to say he acts like the rules dont apply, it is most certainly the same for the admin. No one is exempt from making mistakes, yet it seems that making a mistake is horrendous to the administration of a fictional show's fandom site and is immediate cause for blocking. The only reason I come to this site is to add my extensive Supernatural knowledge where it is needed and fill in holes. And that, my friend, is the truth. Good day. (Chayne Doss (talk) 17:05, March 13, 2019 (UTC))

You were blocked for edit warring and not taking it to the talk page, but I'll unblock you so that you can debate the matter. Everything we do is not right and we publicly admit our failings, you can check our talk pages for evidence of that. You can check the "Apologies" section of your own talk page for that matter. We do not act like the rules don't apply to us and we have our powers kept in check. Ivonkingsley just wants everything his way even if it's unfair to other users. I have unblocked you so that the matter can be debated. Zane T 69 (talk) 18:28, March 13, 2019 (UTC)

My IP address is still blocked. (Chayne Doss (talk) 18:49, March 13, 2019 (UTC))

Okay, now you're unblocked. My bad. Zane T 69 (talk) 19:26, March 13, 2019 (UTC)

Are you going to debate your point or just continue to rip off our content for your wiki that's destined to fail? Yes, we know about that, but your wiki is pointless when your reasoning can likely win the debate here and save you the effort your investing in a duplicate community that was built by copying what people can already access here. I doubt that you'll take me at my word, but feel free to chalk it up to "administrational douchery." All you're doing is creating your own wiki to get your own way; that isn't the mark of a leader, it's the action of a petulant child seeking to bolster their ego instead of doing the right thing and explain why you want to change the summaries to others so that they can understand and support or oppose the matter. It looked like you were making summaries less informative and you were, but you were using the official summaries and still making them less informative. You were still forcing it upon others without getting their opinions. Getting consensus and support for your position would have prevented all of this.

You've accused admins and moderators of believing that everything we do is right the opinions of others without user rights don't count. This is a lie either born out of maliciousness or ignorance, and you've done the same thing that you've accused us off by unilaterally deciding to implement official summaries without consensus. Honestly, I think you just want power, status, and validation and feel that the only way to gain it is by creating your own wiki. All you've proven is that you lack the maturity, wisdom, restraint, and foresight necessary for user rights. Your solution to a problem that you hypocritically created was to create a wiki where you alone have the power to get your way and then cowardly steal from our wiki instead of deigning to allow others to give their own opinions and accept that you might be the one in the wrong. Zane T 69 (talk) 17:03, March 14, 2019 (UTC)

The way I've been spoken to by the administration of this wiki only proves my point further, which is why I'm leaving this wiki to create my own in the first place. Personally I don't care if anyone even knows about my wiki or not, because I am creating it solely for myself and anyone who might stumble on it or doesn't like the way this one is ran either. Calling me a "petulant child" only furthers my point about the ignorance of the admin, mainly yourself as it seems. I've created pages of info for this wiki and fixed multiple more yet my experience still is cut off when I create something even mildly conflicting. Creating pages for unnamed episodes, I felt, was a help to the wiki and saved the hassle of creating a new page later on. A simple renaming and addition of info would have been fine. The summaries on here I felt were not only lengthy and overly in-depth, but filled with spoilers new fans might come across. The DVD summaries were official, yet still, still, they were taken down. I'm tired of the fight so I am starting anew. I already run two other wikis so a third wont make much difference. For the record, I am not ripping off your content. At this time I am still in the beginning stages but soon I will have it much larger. And I am adding my own personal touches to each and every page. So this whole place I honestly couldn't care less about anymore. (Chayne Doss (talk) 16:41, March 15, 2019 (UTC))

You were creating potential excess redirects and more work for others to clean up. I stick by my assessment of those edits and of you. This all boils down to you refusing to even discuss things when an edit conflict arose and had you done so this pointless drama could have been avoided. Instead you just kept reverting like an inexperienced user and were blocked for it. You want complain to me, using viable arguments that could win you support for official summaries instead of actually trying to win support from people who aren't neutral in those debates. You are acting like a petulant child; it's a statement of fact based upon your recent behavior. You didn't get your way, refused to talk about it, and now you're creating your own wiki as an act of rebellion while whining about "unfair treatment" and sulking on your new wiki because the mean admins here think that others opinions count just as much as yours.

Enjoy your new wiki. Zane T 69 (talk) 17:38, March 15, 2019 (UTC)

an attempt at mediation Edit

I see you and Zane had a heated discussion. He asked for some advice regarding this, so I thought my response might be of interest to you too. Cheers. Calebchiam Talk 22:16, March 19, 2019 (UTC)

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