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I thought Metatron had said that Naomi was merely a leader of one among many factions warring among each other, and not the actual leader of Heaven Gabriel456 (talk) 14:55, August 1, 2015 (UTC)

anyone? Gabriel456 (talk) 23:02, October 4, 2015 (UTC)


In the recent episodes, they've said that Joshua was the most recent ruler of Heaven... Should we be putting him in the infobox?

  • I think so. Makes sense. He's dead now too so they won't be going any further with that. Also, sign your posts.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 04:14, April 28, 2017 (UTC)

When did they tell that Joshua was the ruler of Heaven? They only told that he had enough power to make Castiel welcome in Heaven once again and he was operating the mission for capturing Kelly Kline. There is no proof that he was the ruler of Heaven? SeraphLucifer (talk) 08:38, April 28, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

  • He was said to have taken a leadership role in Heaven due to the Nephilim crises, he was clearly in charge of the angels going after Kelly and he had the power to pardon Castiel. I doubt someone who wasn't in charge completely had the power to do the latter.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 15:16, April 28, 2017 (UTC)
  • I checked over and over again and there is no statement that Joshua took the full charge of Heaven and angels. He should be removed. SeraphLucifer (talk) 21:57, May 15, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer
  • Are you saying Joshua held the same authority as Head Angel did? Kajune (talk) 04:28, May 16, 2017 (UTC)
  • Sort of maybe? Kelvin only said that Joshua could make Castiel welcome once again in Heaven. And he was operating the mission to remove Nephilim threat. Apparently he had a high place but being in charge of Heaven wasn't explained or even stated. SeraphLucifer (talk) 06:18, May 16, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer
  • If there is no other comment or proof that Joshua was indeed a ruler once, I will have to remove him. SeraphLucifer (talk) 12:48, May 25, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer
    • Okay but add something on the page about Joshua holding a high position in Heaven at the time of his death since that much at least is obvious.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 16:59, May 25, 2017 (UTC)
      • I'm pretty sure Joshua and Head Angel held the same amount of authority. They both worked on a specific operation without being Heaven's ruler. Kajune (talk) 20:34, May 25, 2017 (UTC)
        • The Head Angel just kinda took charge of the lower angels because he was sick of the fighting amongst their leaders.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 16:51, May 26, 2017 (UTC)