i feel that sam winchester and dean winchester have the real rings of the 4 horsemen.from.joshua.jesus.b.
Well they've probably got three of them (unless they lost them when bobbys house burnt down) but Death got his ring back. General MGD 109 (talk) 18:57, February 27, 2013 (UTC)
- Joshua did not give them any of the Four Horsemen's rings. AND, Joshua is not Jesus. Heck no! He's just an Angel. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:42 PM, February 27th 2103
Power of the ring[]
Reason for consensus is to determine if the rings of the horsemen allow them to manifest in our universe/plane. (with only show exception being death.) The current way of thinking has been challenged. --ThomasNealy (talk) 22:27, February 28, 2018 (UTC)
I know, but there's no reason for putting the expiry date on the actual page. It's on the change protection part. Dtol (talk) 22:41, February 28, 2018 (UTC)
Except most people don't know how to read the log or how to get to it. Do you have an opinion on the consensus?--ThomasNealy (talk) 23:11, February 28, 2018 (UTC)
They do not require their rings to manifest. Pestilence was still there once his ring was cut off, as were Famine and War. They teleported away, sure, but even the bits that were cut off remained there.
Orion (T-B-C) 23:22, February 28, 2018 (UTC)
Yep, agreed. Also, Dean said War "took off running." It's clear, horsemen don't need their rings to manifest on earth. -ParasiticCarroll (talk) 08:02, February 28, 2018 (UTC)