Removing archangels from this list
Yes, they existed before the universe, but they were created by God, unlike Amara, God, and Death, who simply came into being.
Orion (T-B-C) 09:54, June 5, 2016 (UTC)
- I purposefully defined it like this to reduce the size of the weaknesses sections.
We always had: "God can kill"/ "Amara can kill" / "Death can kill" / "Archangels can kill " as separated weaknesses on many articles. All these beings are older than the universe and extremely powerful. Archangels are above 99% of the beings in the show, they are a common weakness for almost everyone. This approach bundles them into one group and hence reduces the size of the weaknesses section. Lambda1 (talk) 18:56, June 5, 2016 (UTC)
I think The Archangels, should stay on the list, and I agree with Lambda's argument. This is a simple and effective approach to reduce the size of the weaknesses section, if we change this now, we'll have to redo the sections on several pages. Zane T 69 (talk) 19:12, June 5, 2016 (UTC)
How about just removing more powerful entities from weaknesses section? Not because it's false, but because it's true for every character and species - they can be overpowered by entities more powerful than they are. It's obvious to the point that saying it is redundant.
Orion (T-B-C) 14:36, June 7, 2016 (UTC)
It might be obvious for someone familiar with the whole lore of the series, but not for someone who only watched for example the first two seasons. Either way, it's an important thing to mention exactly which things can kill each other, otherwise it would suggest that for example a vampire could only be killed by beheading. Lambda1 (talk) 18:37, June 7, 2016 (UTC)
It's obvious because it's a tautology. If being X is more powerful than Y, then X can overpower Y. Of course, which X's correspond to each Y's is something someone unfamiliar with the series' lore won't know, but if we list every X for every Y, the "Weaknesses" section of lower-tier entities would be half as long as the main article.
Orion (T-B-C) 18:42, June 7, 2016 (UTC)
Eve
Shouldn't she be on this list as well? We don't even know how she came into being. KillRoy231 (talk) 19:50, June 5, 2016 (UTC)
Exactly, till we get a source citing she is a primordial entity, she shouldn't be on this list. Zane T 69 (talk) 20:09, June 5, 2016 (UTC)