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Exactly, till we get a source citing she is a primordial entity, she shouldn't be on this list. [[User:Zane T 69|Zane T 69]] ([[User talk:Zane T 69|talk]]) 20:09, June 5, 2016 (UTC)
 
Exactly, till we get a source citing she is a primordial entity, she shouldn't be on this list. [[User:Zane T 69|Zane T 69]] ([[User talk:Zane T 69|talk]]) 20:09, June 5, 2016 (UTC)
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== Separation ==
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This is in case also others are confirmed.
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But I think there should be two parts for Primordials
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*Appeared
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1.Amara
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2.God
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3.Death
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*Created
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The Archangels.
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As above listed some of the Primordials just appeared and some were created.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]])]] ([[User talk:Twilight Despair 5|talk]]) 05:30, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

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Removing archangels from this list

Yes, they existed before the universe, but they were created by God, unlike Amara, God, and Death, who simply came into being.

Orion (T-B-C) 09:54, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

I purposefully defined it like this to reduce the size of the weaknesses sections.

We always had: "God can kill"/ "Amara can kill" / "Death can kill" / "Archangels can kill " as separated weaknesses on many articles. All these beings are older than the universe and extremely powerful. Archangels are above 99% of the beings in the show, they are a common weakness for almost everyone. This approach bundles them into one group and hence reduces the size of the weaknesses section. Lambda1 (talk) 18:56, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

I think The Archangels, should stay on the list, and I agree with Lambda's argument. This is a simple and effective approach to reduce the size of the weaknesses section, if we change this now, we'll have to redo the sections on several pages. Zane T 69 (talk) 19:12, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

How about just removing more powerful entities from weaknesses section? Not because it's false, but because it's true for every character and species - they can be overpowered by entities more powerful than they are. It's obvious to the point that saying it is redundant.

Orion (T-B-C) 14:36, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

It might be obvious for someone familiar with the whole lore of the series, but not for someone who only watched for example the first two seasons. Either way, it's an important thing to mention exactly which things can kill each other, otherwise it would suggest that for example a vampire could only be killed by beheading. Lambda1 (talk) 18:37, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

It's obvious because it's a tautology. If being X is more powerful than Y, then X can overpower Y. Of course, which X's correspond to each Y's is something someone unfamiliar with the series' lore won't know, but if we list every X for every Y, the "Weaknesses" section of lower-tier entities would be half as long as the main article.

Orion (T-B-C) 18:42, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

That's the reason I created this page, the same entities are still mentioned as a weakness for the most characters, but bundled in one page. I think we could further decrease the size of those sections by creating a page for "super -weapons" like Death's Scythe, The First Blade, The Colt, Hand of God. Lambda1 (talk) 18:51, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

Not mentioning them is a even worse solution. Lambda1 (talk) 18:54, June 7, 2016 (UTC)

Eve

Shouldn't she be on this list as well? We don't even know how she came into being. KillRoy231 (talk) 19:50, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

Exactly, till we get a source citing she is a primordial entity, she shouldn't be on this list. Zane T 69 (talk) 20:09, June 5, 2016 (UTC)

Separation

This is in case also others are confirmed.

But I think there should be two parts for Primordials

  • Appeared

1.Amara 2.God 3.Death

  • Created

The Archangels.

As above listed some of the Primordials just appeared and some were created.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 05:30, March 9, 2017 (UTC)

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