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Oliver as Deity

I've added Oliver as a deity because the offspring of the Titan, Kronos were Greek Gods (though not all, as Atlas, a Titan himself, was born of a Titan). So technically he would be a deity. Please let me know if anybody thinks otherwise. RaghavD Taking the ROAD less travelled 10:43, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Although you do make a valid point about the children of the titans being gods (Well most of them) however the lengends (as far as I know) never actually make it clear what the differance between a god and a Titan was (in fact its implied to simply be a title, multiple titans: Morpheus, Helious, Selina etc. were held as gods) likewise neither does the show, except on line refering to them as "A proto-god" which could mean anything from the being before the deities, to a first generation deity. Any way reguardless, Oliver couldn't be held as one, as his mother is human, so at most he's a demi-god. So I don't think he should count. General MGD 109 (talk) 20:38, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

But demi-gods can't die and come back alive everyday. He was immortal. It was only because of Zeus' curse did he die everyday. So he had to be deity. Morpheus was never a Titan. He was the Roman god of dreams. Helios was a Titan and I never heard of Selina?? RaghavD Born Sinner, the opposite of a Winner 17:34, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

No Morpheus was a titan, he was the son of Hypnos the primordial of sleep and Selina (I may have spelt that wrong) was Helios sister and the godess of the moon. Plus the curse was "To die every day" for that to work he would have to be brought back from the dead. He would still be classed as a Demi-god as he was only half god, the other half was mortal, that is the definition of a demi-god. General MGD 109 (talk) 19:52, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Point one. Zeus called him an immortal, however that is unknown if he meant completely due to getting his father's curse or both that and being something of a god. Point two, as he isn't credited clearly as a deity, the cateogory" makes it confusing. However, it should be noted on the page itself that it's unknown if he got any powers from his father, as well as be list as deity (in cateogory ONLY) as that way it covers all bases. My opinion only.[[User:Twilight Despair 5|]] ([[The God of Creation]]) (talk) 01:49, August 2, 2013 (UTC)

For the time being, I'm putting Unknown in the Race part. RaghavD Born Sinner, the opposite of a Winner 05:57, August 2, 2013 (UTC) 

Demideity

There is no such thing as demi-deity. It has to be demi-god. SeraphLucifer (talk) 08:15, April 17, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Indeed. The word doesn't exist. It's not listed in any dictionaries (besides Wiktionary, where the entry was added by the same user who's trying to add it here), and I can't even find a single instance of it (outside Wiktionary).

Orion (T-B-C) 08:20, April 17, 2016 (UTC)

Blaziken rjcf you told me:

"So you can show your sources? Good. Show them in the talk page. I can't find a single instance of the word "demideity" outside the one on Wiktionary."

So I did:

"Where did you (either you or someone else on Wiktionary) find a source for demideity? Which website?

Jdogno2 (talk) 03:53, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

Please see our Criteria for inclusion. It's not a matter of authoritative references, it's a matter of verifiable usage- we're a descriptive dictionary, so if there's no usage to describe, we don't include the term. There are rules about how we determine something is in use, and what constitutes usage, but that's the basic principle. Chuck Entz (talk) 15:45, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

How did you verify that the term was in use?

Jdogno2 (talk) 22:27, 23 April 2016 (UTC) In practice, I check the two most comprehensive searchable collections of durably-archived works, Google Books and the Usenet part of Google Groups. Our CFI specify at least three independent durably-archived uses (not mentions) covering a span of at least a year. The last requirement can be temporarily suspended for terms that are too recent to span a year, but have sufficient usage to make it likely that the term will still be in use after a year. If you read the discussions at WT:RFV you'll be able to get a better feel for how the rules work in practice. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:37, 24 April 2016 (UTC)"

Over the past two days I have checked sources for the word.

Jdogno7 (talk) 11:28, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're trying to say, but I still don't see links to actual sources; just a bunch of (presumably) quoted text.
Orion (T-B-C) 11:31, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

I am trying to say that Wiktionary verified that the term was in use. Otherwise the term would not have been included. I am trying to say demideity is an established word.

Jdogno7 (talk) 12:38, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Still not seeing links. Just a bunch of claims.
Orion (T-B-C) 12:46, April 24, 2016 (UTC)

Type demideity in quotation marks into Google Books and there will be results.

Jdogno7 (talk) 06:14, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Alright, some people are indeed using it as a real word. Now show me an authority in the English language that lists it as such.
Orion (T-B-C) 06:58, April 26, 2016 (UTC)

Who/What would you consider an authority in the English language?

--Jdogno7 (talk) 07:09, April 26, 2016 (UTC)