Gabriel's history Edit

It's speculative to say that he shared the same history as the main universe Gabriel. We already know that Lucifer (Main universe) and Lucifer (Apocalypse universe) can't share the same primordial history. AU Lucifer never fought the Darkness and never had the Mark of Cain. We basically know next to nothing about AU Gabriel, yet this page speculates a lot. -- 20:33, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

We know that the timelines only diverge from the point where Mary Winchester refused to make a deal with Azazel. It's not speculation.

Orion (T-B-C) 20:43, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

As mentioned, the AU archangels were not there to fight Amara, so they must have been created later. Either that or there is also an AU God + AU Amara, AU Death ... -- 20:58, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

Because they didn't exist back then. Again, the timelines only diverged when Mary Winchester refused to make a deal with Azazel.

Orion (T-B-C) 21:00, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

That is the point, those archangels did not exist back then. So no Mark of Cain for AU Lucifer which thus results in a different history for him. -- 21:45, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

I didn't explain myself properly. Up until the split in the timeline, they were one and the same. When it split, they became different characters in different timelines.

Orion (T-B-C) 21:49, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

To the guy whose not bothering to sign his posts: the two universes diverged in 1973, the events of In The Beginning. Apocalypse World Mary didn't make the deal with Azazel that Main Universe Mary did. As a result, in Apocalypse World, Sam and Dean never existed to stop the Apocalypse. Everything before May 2nd, 1973 is the same in that world. Means Cain is most likely still alive, the Darkness is still locked up somewhere and where the Hell is Raphael is my question.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 22:32, May 17, 2018 (UTC)

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