Talk:Fairies

Changeling?

Shouldn't Changelings be mentioned here, somewhere?General MGD 109 16:38, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

Why here?
Damaijin 03:09, March 27, 2012 (UTC)

Why, Chagelings are children of Eve, while Fairies are children of Oberon, two completely different species, even though they're sometimes associated with one another. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:51 PM, April 1st 2012

Leprechaun Gilda?

Any reason besides not being specifically told by canon that Gilda isn't called a Leprechaun? Wayne and Gilda seem pretty similar in power-level and they both have the same appearance (both look like a normal human). (After all, 'Good' Fairy doesn't refer to a species it refers to alignment). 122.106.157.19 03:50, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

I, too, was disappointed when she wasn't categorized (which is why I added the clarification to her class on the article). However, as it was not explicitly mentioned she was a Leprechaun, we could not assume she is. Wayne took firstborns, pretty much a reference to Rumpelstiltskin, whereas Gilda had no reference whatsoever to any leprechaun lore. I'd say she is an entirely separate class, somewhat about the typical 'fair folk' that are similar to fantasy elves like that of Tolkien's, but until mentioned in Canon, that remains to be just my opinion. FTWinchester (talk) 04:05, February 5, 2013 (UTC)

No, she's not a Leprechaun, or at least wasn't mentioned as such in Canon. No where in the episode was she clarified as a Leprechaun, so currently, we cannot call her one, till otherwise revealed. -- ImperiexSeed, 10:18 AM, February 5th 2013

Power scale

How powerful would you guys say fairies are next to the likes of demons, angels and dieties? they seem to be able to warp reality and have all sorts of great powers to imply them being some of the most powerful beings indroduced, makes me wonder if Oberon could take on Michael as fairies supposedly have thier own devil/lucifer equal, and normal fairies seem very powerful, almost to the point of higher angels.

Princepurple (talk) 15:42, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Well we have to take a few things into account, one we can't judge how powerful a species is based on how strong the strongest members are, the Leprachaun was the leader of all the fairies in the area, so it stands to reason he's pretty strong, while Gilda was also clearly powerful, as she could use almost trickster level power, yet at the same time she was bound by one of the weakest magic users ever. Second, none of the other fairies ever demonstrated any that impressive powers, the tink wasn't that strong and the elves didn't seem that powerful, and the redcap was probably as strong or perhaphs a bit more, as your average black eyed demon. Plus I think the fairy devil was mearly a retort. Taking into account the difference in power between higher faires and other fairies, I would say on average there stronger than demons (on average) but weaker than deties (on average), so no Oberon probably couldn't take on Michael, you should see my new blog following this trait. General MGD 109 (talk) 18:16, February 23, 2013 (UTC) 

It depends on what fairies there are and how much their magic affects angels. Judging by the way the leprechaun laughed at angels it's quite possible a few fairies might have the power to rival Archangels but I doubt the vast majority can. I don't see why the leprechaun would make a deal he knew he couldn't carry out. I mean he wouldn't get anything out of it unless he pulled it off so why bother suggesting it otherwise. Also there's no clear indication that Oberon even exists as it's just Marian's presumption. To be fair, the power of the spell doesn't really compare with the power of the being. I mean Death was bound by a spell that can be done by Sam and Dean and they're hardly powerful magic practioners and he's one of the most powerful creatures in existence.  

Doubtful, mutliple characters have made similiar boasts until there actually forced to face the person. After all as the old saying goes "its easy to be brave, when your not facing the enemy". Truthfully you have a point over why the Leprechaun would make the deal, then from his description "back doors" its possible fairies are able to bypass the restrictions because they don't apply to them, much like how reapers can causally travel into heaven, hell and Purgatory but are weaker than even lower class demons. True, but then that was pretty big tier spell, performed by three people who are atleast used to using magic, compared to a guy who found a spell book on Ebay, and was powerless once one spell was broken. General MGD 109 (talk) 22:05, August 12, 2013 (UTC) 

Leprechaun strength?

It's stated that the leprechaun has shown to be weaker than even lower tied angels but in what way is that the case? He effortlessly beat Sam to the point where spilling salt was Sam's only chance. Not to mention Sam didn't have a soul and therefore had a high pain threshold. Furthermore, on at least one occasion Sam has been able to deliver a punch to an angels face while fighting them (though obviously it didn't hurt the angels) but he didn't even deliver one hit to the leprechaun. So really leprechauns haven't shown to be weaker but equal to at the very least. 

Are you really sure about that? Compare fighting the Leprechaun to fighting an angel, the fight lasted several minutes atleast, not even demons (save the elite of the elite) could make a fight last that long with angels. Pain threshold means nothing to creatures strong enough to break bones and lift grown men with one hand. On that one occasion, if memory severs me right, he reacted like he broke his hand and the angel didn't even bother to react as he knew it would do no harm. Sam was still standing and not even badly damged long into the fight, Castiel smashed Dean with in a inch of his life when he was on about 40% power. General MGD 109 (talk) 22:00, August 12, 2013 (UTC)

The fight between Cas and Dean was equally as long and to be fair Dean didn't want to hurt Cas. The fact Sam on several occasions (with out a soul) has proven he can take a serious ammount of pain and shrug it off but was barely able to stand after fighting the leprechaun show the lep did some serious damage. Not to mention Sam with a soul delivered a punch to the face with an angel but didn't manage to deliver one to the leprechaun without his soul (which lets be honest is when he's more aggressive and efficient). I'm not saying leprechauns are as durable, I'm saying they seemed about as strong as a low level angel.