Talk:Astaroth

Astaroth?

In the Supernatural Companion  for Season 3, it was stated that the demon's true name was Astaroth and therefore I believe that the name of the page should be renamed as Astaroth. I await your arguments. Self-Declared God of Supreme Conduits (talk) 02:45, April 22, 2013 (UTC) Kesslerbeast

I'm in complete and utter agreement, if it says thats her real name then its right, after all Tammi's clearly not her real name, the names only about two hundred years old, and the demon was alive before the plague was big in europe. Plus it explains why she was so powerful (Astaroth being quite high up on the demon heiracy) despite being a black eyed demon. All in all I think we should change it to Astaroth, tick it off as another demon from the lore to appear in the show, and include something like "she took the body of Tammi and pretened to be her, when dealing with the covern." General MGD 109 (talk) 17:27, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

Seriously, that's her name? Holy crap, my friend guessed that and I don't think she read the companion book. I thought "Tammi" was Vine.--97.102.247.111 20:09, April 22, 2013 (UTC)

In the book they specifically say that just because they have black eyes doesn't mean that they are low class. Self-Declared God of Supreme Conduits (talk) 20:56, April 22, 2013 (UTC) Kesslerbeast

As cool as the name sounds, I just want to hear reassurance that this companion is official and is to be considered canon, yes? And that there are no inconsistencies with the live-action series whatsoever that will invalidate the status of the 'Companion' as canon? FTWinchester (talk) 11:46, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

I am in full agreement with FTWinchester, although I do not doubt the campanion is official, I too would like reassurance it can still be considered canon. It has been six years since Season 3, so we need to verify this info stating the demon's true name  is Astaroth has at least not been retconned during that time. 107.194.23.71 14:25, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

And if this is indeed to be named as Astaroth, we need a new page on Tammi as the human vessel. Plus, there are no pages on Amanda and Renee. FTWinchester (talk) 19:33, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

I agree that vindication is neccessary, but I don't see any reason to doubt the companion guide as canon, as far as I know there hasn't been any reconing, no demon has been caled Astaroth as of yet. And your right about creating a page for Tammi and the other two wiches, its amazing no one has in five years. General MGD 109 (talk) 19:38, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

It's just that other official books had inconsistencies with the live-action series. I just want to be careful. I've checkeed and there appears to be pages on the witches after all. I just failed to type in the full names. Also, who removed the 'Book of Shadows' mention? It was the actual name of the book. FTWinchester (talk) 19:45, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Don't get me wrong, I agree with you, I told Kesslerbeast when he came to me with more information from the books to make sure none of it controdicted anything in the series before adding it. I'm glad they are, if no one had added them in five years, it wouldn't say much for this Wiki. General MGD 109 (talk) 19:57, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

VIP demons

Most important demons have names, Tammi being revealed as Astaroth explains her bullet stopping powers, I initially thought her a Night of Hell, as like Abaddon she is very old, has black eyes and is of great power, yet, she was killed with the knife, something Abaddon resisted so although all the others named from lore (Azazel, Alastair, Lilith and Abadoon, Samhain was not but still had a name), and each had special functions, Astaroth does not seem to be as powerful, more a Luitenant grade demon, although her name is of interest.

I hope others like Mephastophiles, Belial, Mammon, Belphagor, Jezabell and Beelzebub are introduced though.. or at least mentioned.

Just thought I'd add, it seems implied that she was a high ranking servant or luitenant of Lilith in a similar way to ruby but with a different function.

Princepurple (talk) 01:08, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

I have to agree, Astaroth was clearly not a higher demon, but she was probably about the grade bellow the lowest higher demon, luitentant sounds about right. I would like to see thouse others, along with Amon and Asmodeus (as a definate) but were just have to wait and see. I don't know if her bullet stopping powers are so impressive, noramlly when they shoot a demon with the colt, they surprise them or they don't recognise it, so none of them appart from her have had a chance to. General MGD 109 (talk) 19:42, May 13, 2013 (UTC)