User talk:ImperiexSeed-fduser

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Response to your message on the Smallville wiki

Hey. Since I couldn't get to you on the SV w iki (the IP who was harassing me shared my IP address for some reason), I just thought I'd tell you that I won't be able to be on the wiki until August 5th due to the block. And I'm doing okay, although I'm oh-so-very pissed off because of what happened on my blog. Frankly, I need some time to cool down - Cloisfan1 seriously struck a nerve and pissed off a lot of users - . So I'll be taking some time off, but I'll be checking in to see what's happening on the wiki. And I saw you removed the "fap fap fap" on my talk page; I would've done it myself if the IP hadn't been blocked. Thanks though! :)

Please reply on my talk page on the SV wiki. Thanks! - TomWellingishot

I think "so-pissed-that-I-want-to-burn-that-guy's-computer" would be a better term lol, but yeah, I'd really appreciate it if you asked them to undo the block. I need the IP address and Cloisfan1 to be unblocked , cuz I get an infobox saying that I can't comment/edit because they're blocked. I even tried Lastsonofkrypton's suggestion and reset my router, which didn't work with getting around the block. - TWISH

Okay, thank you! :)

Well...I saw on Kanamekun's talk page that he asked how one stole another's IP, which I recommend replying to. , Having a dad that works for Microsoft, I know IP theft is pretty much impossible. My situation is that Cloisfan1 and I shared the same IP, and that both his profile and the IP address (24.16.12.42) were both seperately blocked. So just undoing one block won't fix my problem here - and that's all from the infobox I get. (Sorry if I sound a bit aggravated - as I said before, I'm still furious about my blog situation).

I read it. :) Now we just have to cross our fingers to see what he says. And about Cloisfan1's block, since he was blocked by another admin, VegaDark, just wondering, is it even possible to undo another admin's block? His block lasts until 2012(?!) and I so won't be too happy if that one can't be undone...

I read what he said. :( Thanks for trying to get him to change his mind; it'd be a miracle if he did. And yeah, considering that you gave me a pep talk on my blog some weeks ago, protected my page from Proto000 and Cloisfan1 as well as standing up to Cloisfan1, I'll always have your back too. :)

You're kidding, right? :( I saw he hasn't replied to your recent message, so there still might be a small chance of this mess being cleaned up. Maybe you should contact the wiki staff? Just a suggestion. Anyway, you should probably inform the other users that I'll be gone for a while (although they can contact me on other wikis: Supernatural wiki, Vampire Diaries wiki, Harry Potter wiki)...

You didn't say anything that offended me; I was (and am), however, really upset right now cuz Kanamekun won't fix the problem. Now I have to wait a fucking year (excuse my language; as I said, I'm upset with Kanamekun) or a month (both blocks are for different lengths) before I can get back on the wiki!!!

Okay, you know how some people - when they get bad news- they're like "You're kidding"? Ya that was why I put it there. Sorry for the confusion!

Well, the wait is bound to be long and secondly, since Cloisfan1 and I've the same IP, I wouldn't be so sure it's for a month...

I don't get it either. That was my first encounter with cyberbullying, (and if we personally knew that shithead who was harrassing me, I'd help you beat him up, what with being a black belt in karate and all), and I swear (no offense to any admins), admins can be so...unlogical sometimes. Anyway, please do try any other admins!!

Ya, he got a year! D:

Oh, Thank God for that!I I don't wanna sound corny, but you're a lifesaver!!!! Thank you so much! :)

Once again, thank you! I really appreciate your help! (Thank God the IP/Cloisfan1 wasn't banned all across wiki!)

My contribs don't say I was ever blocked. I was blocked indirectly when the seperate IP and user were blocked. Call it a chain reaction: one (in this case two) is blocked, another by accident.

No. If either the user or IP stay blocked, I'll be blocked. It's a risk, but it's either that or I wait a month or year...Although I do think he gave up the moment he was blocked.

Ya, exactly. Once this is fixed, we'll just have to wait and see. This is me, but I'd be really surprised if he left an apology on our talk pages although I doubt it will.

Will do. I wonder why when I tried it the first time, it didn't work?

) The funny thing is, before turning to you, I tried contacting VegaDark (who happens to be an admin/beauracrat) about the block because he blocked my IP and he deleted my message(?!). I really don't get it, but we were just lucky the ban was only on the SV wiki...

I can log in, but I can't edit/comment. Did you give them the IP address and the link to Cloisfan1's profile? We're talking about two separate blocks that are blocking me. http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.16.12.42 and http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cloisfan1 - these two are the blocks I've been talking about..

I just sent him the message.

Wow, my luck seems really bad this week. You should read his response...Ok, this is just me, but I'm convinced that no admins will be able to help out (probably cuz I'm already worn out lol).

What'd "Possible-Proto000" say, just wondering? Anyway, I'll ignore it should it happen to me. I mean, I'm already irritated that I'm blocked from the SV wiki for something I didn't do, and having my page vandalized, well, that'd be my last straw to be honest.

I tried contacting admin Hallichester on this wiki to see if he'd be able to help out; speaking of, on the other wikis that I visit, I might try to get a hold of any other admins to see if they can help the situation...

It's not like you tried to vandalize my page (I know you wouldn't, though); it's fine. :)

Yep. It does! :)

I have no idea! I personally think it's my username that made them attack me, but I honestly don't care if it's a bit...odd of a name. And I think that Cloisfan1 was way outta line; I mean, c'mon, reading my messages (well your messages) on my talk page and thinking that we're in a romantic relationship? It's like he knew we were friends or something (he probably did)!

His calling me a slut - that was it for me. That really pissed me off; it wasn't the first time a guy's been mean to me. Nice work on your Season 12, btw! :) *two thumbs up*

Ya, well...let's just say that my ex-boyfriend disagrees. He hit me not too long ago (yesterday)! >:( And yeah, about your new blog, no problem! :)

I'd already dumped him after I found out he asked me out for the hell of it; he never liked me. And, being the one that never backs down from a fight (I know, that isn't a good thing sometimes), I took him down. And yeah, guys these days can be so disrespectful!

Yup, I beat him up. Me - I'm the girl no guy wants to screw around with.

I like you a lot (no, not in the "I want to date you" way). You've definitely got the brains on a lot of DC/Marvel, Harry Potter, and Supernatural (your profile says that on both wikis) which is actually really helpful for things like the Deux Ex Machina thing on my blog. Also, I saw that you're a writer, like me! :) I don't think I mentioned that with the entire Cloisfan1 situation, I really appreciated it when you intervened and tried helping me out - which several users did. And I personally do not know any users who would willingly spend an entire 2 days trying to help me with my blocking situation; so once again thank you for that! :)

Most users would probably be very tired of constantly getting messages from one particular user lol. And could you give evidence that I was "scared", please? Cuz I certainly don't recall being scared, but yeah I was kinda helpless...Also, could you please do me a favor and let the users who've been commenting on my blog that I won't be able to write my series for a month (I hope *gulp*) because of this stupid block? Thanks! :)They're probably wondering why I haven't been on the wiki. And it's okay, btw. :) I never said I was pissed at you for something, so let's forget it happened. :)

Thank you! LOL I just realized kinda an upside to this block; I now have plenty of time to work through my ideas for my blog, cuz I once again happen to be at a writer's block (perfect timing lol). This is just my thinking, but I'm under the impression Cloisfan1 somehow knew my IP and was trying to get me blocked.

Thanks! You should check this new section on my talk page and feel free to join in; it was a shock even for me!

Cloisfan1

I replied to his message, but, as I said earlier, I'm still really pissed off at him for the blog situation. - TWISH

Just to let you know, I'm on right now. Leave me a message on my talk page and I'll get back to you. :)

TomWellingishot

Wow, she's really mad at me... - Cloisfan1

Well, I'm trying to make up for this and she makes bitchy remarks! How am I to know if she won't put spam on my page?!

I like Supernatural, Vampire Diaries, Smallville, Falling Skies, Pretty Little Liars and Nine Lives of Chloe King. Before she put her FB page under protection, I saw that we watch the exact same shows...

Wait, her, TomWellingishot's, Facebook page?

Yep. She put it so only friends could see her profile information, apparently.

Oh, well she said that only friends can FB her and chat with her, so I'll respect that, and not ask what her name is.

Yeah. The fact that her brother and mom are friends with her says it all...

Oh. So, dude, just curious, and I'm not trying to push it, but do you happen to know Proto00 personally? So, what books do you like to indulge in?

Yeah, actually. He picks on me every single day, though. And I read Maximum Ride, a lot of Nicholas Sparks, and Lois & Clark: A Superman Novel. (On TWISH's FB page, it's listed under her fave books).

That's terrible, what so in real life or online?

Real life. He gave me a black eye.

I'm so sorry, and just curious, but how do you know he is Proto000?

He writes the same crap all over my FB wall that he did on the SV wiki.

I'm so sorry, what is he your friend, cause if not, then you can block him, right?

I deleted him from my friend list, reported him and then blocked him.

So let's get away from the negativity and go somewhere else, have any favorite books?

Hey, sorry, I'd tell you now but I gotta go (seeing Transformers 3). TTYL!

Okay, dude, well have fun, and ttyl. :)

Well, the flick's about to start (I'm using my phone here), but just curious, how's TWISH holding up? I would leave a message on her page, but she's probably still pissed.

So, how's the movie, and she's doing good, yeah go for it, leave a message on her talk page, but I'd make it brieff and very kind... Trust me on this one, I understand her pretty well. ;)

First off, the movie was awesome! And second off, she called me a shithead?! Would you mind explaining thtis to me before I go ranting off on her page? >:( I'm not asking for another fight, dude...

Response

Lol I wish it did. You probably value truth, so I'll be truthful here: I feel terrible for the entire fight on TWISH's blog (I know, I sound corny, but still). I've always been the type to think before speaking (or typing in this case)...

Talk to ya later dude. (:

RE:Checkin' in

It's really good, actually. Cloisfan1 and I finally made up last night...What'bout you? How're things on your end? :) - TWISH

Yeah, yeah I can talk. :) And sadly, no admins are able to help me - as they're only users on the Smallville wiki - the wiki staff has yet to get back to my email. (Speaking of, have you contacted them yet? They may be able to help the situation.) We just have to hope I can get back on the wiki on August 5th (and when I do get back on, well, it's gonna be a very good day.) Although, since IPs do change every once in a while, it may be quite possible that I'm only AWOL from the wiki for a month...

How 'bout...geez, I have no idea, maybe what may happen in Season 7? :)

Season 7

Yeah, $5.00 says Cas will be the main Big Bad of the season. Crowley, well, he'll either die (for real) or resurrect someone, as you said. It's going to be really interesting seeing how Sam's story plays out. He did, after all, go to hell... - The one and only TWISH

Thank you. You too - it's nice chatting with you. :) And ttyl! (Re: If I don't reply to your messages, I'm not at home, but I'll get back to ya.)

Sweet! :)

Nothing much, just trying to really improve this wiki...and I'm good, thank you. :)

Bye!

Lol, yeah, I've been literally sitting around the house bored out of my freaking mind. ;) Hey, um, you caught me at kinda a bad time - I'm going out for lunch in a few. I'll get back to you when I get back - sorry!

Ok I'll be going in like 3 minutes, so before I go, I'd like to see another hunter (a female one, maybe, to spice things up) join Sam and Dean and maybe have a love triangle. I know - totally different...

Guess who's back? :)

I tried, and I'm still blocked....:( Did you give him the links to Cloisfan1 and the Ip? Those are causing my block, which isn't in my contributions...

God, what is it with him and attacking you?! >:( (And I clarified the blocking issue with Seth Cooper, giving him the links to the blockees. Awaiting his reply even as we speak).

I'm...well, I dunno. Irritated? Cuz I'm still autoblocked on the SV wiki! And my lunch was great; I went to Claim Jumper and got a burger. :) (And for my Smallville wiki problem, my password is "love." You've my permission to log in as me and try to edit, if you want to...)

That may be because you have a different IP. When I, on my computer, try to I just get this:

The block was made by VegaDark.

• Reason given: Abusing multiple accounts: vandalism
• Start of block: 20:08, July 5, 2011
• Expiry of block: 20:08, August 5, 2011
• Intended blockee: 24.16.12.42
• Block ID: #4614
• Current IP address: 24.16.12.42

{C}I think it'd most definitely work, but there is just one small hitch: my parents and brother. It'd seem a little silly to them to them if I asked, "Hey, can we go to the library so I can edit the Smallville wiki?" (And no, I just can't walk there.) I mean, even that sounds ridiculous. A few minutes prior to this reponse, I reset my router...again, and my IP hasn't changed one bit. I'm fully convinced that I'll have to wait till August until I return to the wiki. :(

It's fine, and frankly, almost everyone is pointing me towards the Wikia Staff, which is AWOL at the moment...

Ya, and about the admin thing...I personally think the Smallville wiki needs a few more admins, not that I'm suggesting you randomly ask for sysop rights from Kanamekun. It's for problems like mine where a some more admins would probably be needed.

Holy crap, you watch Falling Skies? I love that show! :) Anyway, later (I'll reply to your next message tomorrow - I have to go in a few)!

Yeah, you would and - let's just say you were - it'd be really convenient if you were given the sysop rights like say overnight or something lol. :)

Cool. This is just me, but it doesn't really sound like a lot for you to get the rights (probably cuz I'm not an admin lol). ;)

You and TWISH (if you don't mind)

Just wondering, do you know TWISH personally, as in, you actually hang out with her? You two seem like really close friends. - CF1

Actually, since on some of the other wikis I've been to, I've been getting a lot of hostility just because of my opinions and comments. I just point out flaws to help out with some blogs, and people just lash out at me. No need to intervene - I'm already trying to decide whether or not to delete my account believe it or not. (And something I've been wondering about..you and TWISH - how exactly does that happen? Most users I know barely talk or not talk at all...)

Dude, were you or were you not there during the incident on TWISH's blog? That is just proof that I'm not wanted, and frankly, I have no problem with that.

I've reconsidered.

I've been doing some thinking for the past couple of hours, and I've reconsidered. I'm not shutting down my account. - CF1

So, here you are!

I've been looking everywhere! How's it going? It´s me! Proto000! :D

*gulp* Aww, crap...

He, Proto000, is after me, now! >:( Well, we're just ignoring each other cuz we had a huge conflict about blocking each other(?!). He left you a message; I would delete it but he'd try to get me blocked for trying to help you... Anyway, I really could've used your help with the situation. TWISH

You should've read his messages on the admin's talk pages. He was trying to get me blocked!

They haven't been online for a while. (Speaking of admins, I was checking the Smallville wiki and saw you asked Kanamekun if you could become one).

I just deleted them, and should Proto000 come back and try again at this "blame 'n' block" crap, there's bound to be trouble. :P As a last resort and a precaution should Proto000 keep bugging us on this wiki, I used the link Small Owl posted on one of your other talk pages and VegaDark blocked his IP.

My reply

I'm doing fine, thank you. What 'bout you? And about my blog, thanks! I just got this really cool idea for a mini-series - I'll give you the deets when you respond. ;)

You're welcome. :) And yes, you heard me correctly. :)))

Ya, you showed me it like last week or something. And, you brought in the H.I.V.E.? From Mark Walden's novels? That's awesome! (And as for my blog I have 2 words for you: Carter. Shayera. It's going to be their lives back when Carter was Prince Khufu.)

Thank you! Quite frankly, it's amazing how ideas can just come to you like that. I was just watching Shield, and it just hit me...

Ya, I'm here. I just thought I'd give you some space cuz I thought I was coming off as kinda pushy, so I'm happy to report that I'm not mad at you. Plus, I've been rather busy.

Neither can I. :) As long as Cloisfan 1's block doesn't affect my block time, I should be back on in August. :D Just wondering, whaddya think of the idea of Lois Lane as Watchtower III? Anyway, I read your updates on your Kinder Justice series, and it's getting even more awesome, especially with the Ent addition! I know, I'm a Tolkien fanatic. ;)

Whoa. I just looked them up on the DC wiki, and how did I not see that one coming? LOL! And I'm doing great - you? :) And I read your two-parter; I gotta hand it to ya, you've got imagination. ;) How do you even come up with such awesome material? ;)

Um, I dunno? Maybe...favorite music? ;)

You're welcome. ;) I'm just gonna tell you anyway, but I just go through the writing process: thinking it through, doing the outline, and then a few drafts before I do the final draft. I like Taylor Swift, Rookie of the Year, Paramore, Angels and Airwaves, Linkin Park, Boys Like Girls - this may be a shocker considering he's a huge trend among teens, but I do NOT like Justin Bieber - and Blink 182. Those are just a few of a very long list of my favorite bands.

Wow. This is a toughie since I love both Superman and Hawkgirl...but I'm going to say Hawkgirl. I've liked her for as long as I can remember.

Wow. That's a long list; you must've read a ton of comics...;)

I haven't read any of the comics, actually, but I did like anime back when I was younger (Avatar: The Last Airbender). I've been writing for as long as I can remember, and I just got a Fanfiction.net account. In case you're curious, my pen name is ZoeyStark 4ever. Once I upload my first story, I'll give you the link if you want. ;)

...Ella. I'd give you my last name, but *sigh* my parents won't let me give out my surname to peop le I don't know. Not that I don't know you, but they'd think these talk pages are chat rooms which are totally against their rules so...

That's good. :) So...whaddya wanna chat about now?

I have to say super-speed and super dexterity, what with being a klutz and all for the latter.

Cool choices. As for his other abilities, flight is awesome although, I'll admit, I am kinda scared of heights - depending on how high they are lol.

I've been on the top of the Space Needle without freaking out; it all depends on how high it is. ;) And could you please do me a favor and on my Season 11 blog? Could you tell everyone that although I'm not online on the Smallville wiki, they can still contact me on other wikis (Lostpedia, Vampire Diaries wiki, this wiki)? Thanks!

Thank you! And yeah, you have. :) Just thought I'd point this out, but there's bound to be drama when - if - people contact me here on this wiki and see that you've been in contatc with me this entire time. Not that I'm saying you delete this wiki from your message...

What?! No! I was just pointing that out, but let's keep on talking, okay? Even if there is a chance of wiki drama because of it, well, we can explain to whoever contacts me should it happen. Look, let's just forget I ever said that, okay?

Well...two more weeks until I'm back on the Smallville wiki!

Thanks! And frankly, I'm dying to get back on and restart my blogging and editing. :)

Just a reminder :)

I was checking up on the Smallville wiki a few hours ago, and Kanamekun replied (like a few days ago) to your recent message. I'd recommend responding, but whatevs. :) - The one and only TWISH

) I thought we were going to start arguing over a simple misunderstanding lol(?).

Me neither, given your comments to Cloisfan1 back when we hated each other's guts. I mean, you saw just from my comments that (like you), I'm the wrong user to piss off.

I dunno. There really isn't anything to talk about now...

Okay, just to clear this up, I do want to talk, but there's not much to chat about as of...oh, wait. What about favorite video games (yeah, I play video games). You're not pissed at me, are you, over this misunderstanding? :(

I like Portal and Portal 2, Mystey Case Files: Dire Grove, Kinect Sports, Dance Central, and Lord of the Rings: Conquest.

Lol, yeah, I mean if I pulled a Proto000 and put porn (gross, much?) on your page after deleting everything or talking trash about your Kinder Justice series, that'd really change things. And yeah, we're like 2 peas in a pod. :)

Yeah, and you know me well enough that I would not put porn on your page - although about your blog, why would I talk trash about it? And since I changed my password as a precaution since I gave you it, it's unlikely that Proto000 would hack my account to make it look like I vandalized your profile. And I need your opinion on this for my blog, but since Chloe retired and Tess is dead, what do you think of Lois as Watchtower?

Well...she is a member of the League as of Patriot. I was thinking of having Clark see her major potential in the League and have him make her an official member- codename and all, without the costume of course - after they try to get through LexCorp's security. She, of course, would pretend to be a LexCorp employee and get to a computer before helping them out (I'm still working out the details).

Ya, I figured that since she joined the team, she might as well majorly contribute as an official member.

Guess who's back? :)

I wish. :( I was on a sugar rush when I sent that message lol.

Ya. Perfect excuse to annoy my big brother. And, believe me, you'll know when I get back on the Smallville wiki. I'm going to make my return a big thing lol. ;) And just a reminder, on August 5th, I won't be responding to any messages from users on the Smallville wiki on whatever wiki they contact me on. There will be a huge neon sign saying "I'M BACK!" Lol, just kidding, there won't be but as I said before, you'll know when I'm back... :)

We've commented on each other's blogs, been through hell with Proto000 and Cloisfan1 (back before the truce) and chatted ourselves silly ever since I was blocked. Of course we'd continue to chat like this! :) When I said we were BFFs, I meant it.

Ya, ya no problem. :)

You know...I probably won't have to wait until August. I haven't been checking the Smallville wiki for a while now, but if the "deal" about your possible adminship is still on, there's actually a chance of you getting the sysop rights to fix my autoblock...Just a thought. :)

That sounds great! :) Thank you! The block isn't in my contributions, but since Cloisfan1 (both IP and user profile) got me blocked, here are the links: http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Cloisfan1 and http://smallville.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/24.16.12.42. What with CF1's truce, it's probably safe to unblock him - which would actually fix this autoblock. :)

Departure from this wiki

Hey. I just wanted to infom you that I'll no longer be active on this wiki, not that I'm no longer a fan of Supernatural. You can still contact me on Lostpedia, House of Night wiki (just started editing there), and Vampire Diaries wiki, though. - TWISH

TWISH leaving

Hey, do you think you could fuck (excuse the language) TWISH for me? >:) Don't take this the wrong way or anything, but I'm pissed at her. She already blocked me on the House of Night wiki for vandalism and attacking (wtf?)... -- Cloisfan1

I'm pissed at her, and I've never been that good at controlling my temper. Frankly, I don't wanna know if she's a sysop on Lostpedia. So I just went on the House of Night wiki - she gave you the links on Lostpedia - and ranted and then things turned ugly from there. You can see my talk page to see the rest of our little dispute. How did she even become a sysop on the House of Night wiki anyway, just wondering? But that doesn't matter; I hacked into her account and unblocked myself. I probably should not have said that lol.

Here's a footnote: I hear that TWISH is actually a lesbian. Can you believe that? And her username is TomWellingishot! Hehe!

Yo!

Your little girl friend came over to apartment a few minutes ago, screaming at me to stop harrassing her on the internet.I will but ONLY if you tell OJOLara to leave the wiki. It's either Me and OJOLara go, or I'll stay here with you.

{C}with love- Sharona.

wiki

I know TWISH told you about my wiki, but please, can I do anything to make her forgive me? http://tomwellingishotrebellion.wikia.com/wiki/10_Reasons_that_TWISH_sucks?cb=6609

-Cloisfan1

why do you think that michael and lilith are alphas

I think no because they must be related to eve.

this is also true but they also must be the creator of the others I think.

I didnt want to have a war with you comrade.

Your Question Adminship

About the adminship I don't know how, but I have seen some articles about it. You probably could read up on it on community WIkia. Also you have been here longer than I have, I just have A LOT of edits lol. As for the admin part, I think its more about keeping the site organized and clean than knowing a lot about the show (that does help though). But if you feel up to it, go for it. I wish you all the best luck. Mr.Comatose 22:17, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

thanks comrade

Then I apologize about it. Although, I think you should add more content to the page besides just stating who has it. The same for the rest of the pages. Its great that your creating all these pages for powers, but I think they should have a little more content. I'll try to add some myself, but this is my opinion. No hard feelings? Mr.Comatose 23:28, October 13, 2011 (UTC)

Not a jerk

You Jerk! Why the hell did you block me?! I'm your friend!OJOLara 21:57, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

sorry.OJOLara 22:07, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

I'm STILL blocked!OJOLara 22:15, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Sharona called and told me what she need to talk about. Please unblock my IP adress as now i can assur she will never bother us agaiun. She's on our side now. :). Now please unblock me!OJOLara 22:34, October 11, 2011 (UTC)

Just a head's up

I just thought I'd let you know that I've made my final decision whether to return to this wiki. My decision is... -drumroll- I've officially returned! --TWISH 03:10, October 12, 2011 (UTC)

Wasn't Offended

I didn't know what was happening. I was going to talk to about the osris page, but when you said it was private I realized I should leave and let you guys talk. No there really was no hard feelings. Mr.Comatose 02:31, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Re:Adminship

Hi ImperiexSeed. Regarding your request for adminship, I can see the commitment and you have fairly-sustained periods of editing, although I have to check, what is your understanding of admin tools and would you know how to use them? Thanks. Calebchiam ^Talk 02:56, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

Well, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt then. You can now do the following:

• Edit and move fully protected pages
• Delete, restore, and view deleted revisions of pages and images
• Protect pages from edits, moves, or creation by non-sysops
• Block and unblock users and IP addresses and ranges
• Edit the interface pages in the MediaWiki: namespace
• View Special:Unwatchedpages

Although policies haven't been properly established in this Wiki, seeing as you already have experience as a sysop on another Wiki, I assume you'll know the basics (use the tools responsibly, don't use them to settle an edit-dispute, no power-abuse, basic conduct, etc). If you have any questions, just ask. Calebchiam ^Talk 04:30, October 15, 2011 (UTC)

God's omnipotence

Hi, ImperiexSeed, I noticed your edit on God's page about him probably being more powerful than Death and I respectfully have to say your opinion is irrelevant on the page. Don't get me wrong, but I firmly believe we should exclude all speculation to the pages themselves in order for this wiki to be 100 % accurate. As I said to you before on your blog,I fully agree that nothing is more powerful than God, but we have to assume that Death could be an exception. As you know Death told Dean that he will reap God too in the end. Personally, I am skeptical God will eventually die for obivous reasons, however I must accept the possibility that Death's power over life and death may even surpass God until proven otherwise. I hope you can understand. 76.212.205.91 20:36, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

Firstly, I'm not even sure it's a real word that can describe what you're saying. Secondly, Death did say he would eventually reap God, so I'm not sure the latter would fit into this definition. With that, there's only Death left, but I'm not sure "amortality" is that big an aspect of Supernatural to be worth mentioning. It could simply be put in the Death article. As such, I am..decidedly neutral on this, it's up to you, although I wouldn't make the article myself. Other editors can dispute the content if they wish to. Calebchiam ^Talk 06:14, October 16, 2011 (UTC)

The Doctor Gaines Page

I am thankful you are doing so many great changes to the wikia, but I believe this one can be remedied. I know that Annie was first, which means she can get her own page. And if you could return the Dr. Gaines page back to what it was if possible. Thank you in advance. Mr.Comatose 23:44, October 20, 2011 (UTC)

Ok. Here it is. First an example. Castiel possesses Jimmy Novak. Are they the same person? No. They both have their own pages. The fact is Annie was little girl who got possessed by a Leviathan and then got an idea to become a doctor. Thus her own person. Dr. Gaines was human before the Leviathan turned into him. He was treating Jody Mills when he was killed, and taken over. Different person, but same creature. Plus Annie no longer exists since she changed into Dr. Gaines. So if you think about it, Dr. Gaines is the one who remained, so therefore the page is still his. To further prove my point, Lucifer has possessed Nick and Sam, but they all have their own page. Same goes for Michael. He possessed John Winchester, and Adam, and they all have their own pages, because they all are different people. Thank you for your time. Mr.Comatose 00:15, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

This is pointless. We both believe right when either one of us could be (plus you have more power than I do). So just forget about it and leave it alone please. I won't say anymore, if you won't. Its just one of those kind of days.

Mr.Comatose 01:43, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Its okay. Its just been one of those days where it seems like everything angers you. Plus that I created that page a while back (last month). We always seem to get into these kind of arguments. Sorry about that. Mr.Comatose 01:57, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Thank You for your adivce. Mr.Comatose 22:21, October 21, 2011 (UTC)

Need you help on something

I think you have noticed that Sam and Dean's pages are getting quite full and the scroll bar is getting smaller. So I was thinking if there was a way to create a hide but re-show the notable appearances area. This way it gives the page more room (not to mention the template won't show up on random page), actually thats pretty much it. But I have no idea to create this. It would have to be collapsible and a template. This would only apply to Sam, and Dean (possibly Bobby and Castiel). What do you think? Thanks.

Mr.Comatose 22:09, November 7, 2011 (UTC)

Hey so I created an example of what I think we use. It doesn't collapse just yet, but I'm hoping we can figure out how to get it to work. This template will only go onto Sam and Dean's pages, and maybe Bobby's and Castiel's as well. Just need your opinion. If you don't like it, I won't do it otherwise I'll begin working on it. It would be a big help if you would find out to make it collapsible. Thanks for your help. Mr.Comatose 16:59, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Official meeting

Since we haven't really met yet, whaddya say you meet me on chat? :) --Love and Lust 00:12, November 8, 2011 (UTC)

I'm on chat now! --Love and Lust 10:52, December 4, 2011 (UTC)

Season Seven, Time For A Wedding

This is the proper title. It appears onscreen. -- Noneofyourbusiness 22:18, November 13, 2011 (UTC)

Would you like to browse episodes with a map?

Hi, I'm a member of Wikia's Community Support Team, and we think Supernatural would be the perfect wiki to test out a new feature. I've described the whole thing over here and would love your input. Thanks! --Dopp (help forum | blog) 22:00, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Good to hear -- let me know what you come up with! --Dopp (help forum | blog) 23:01, November 18, 2011 (UTC)

Hi! I personally find this feature a great addition to our Wiki. I think we should give it a try! So, I wanted to know what you think about it. Maybe we should try getting the opinion of Wiki editors before taking a decision? What do you think? Let me know! // Hallichester // 09:39, November 21, 2011 (UTC)

Title of Episode 7.08

Hi. I just want to point out that the title "Season Seven, Time for a Wedding" appears in letters in the episode itself onscreen after the teaser, so it is definitely the correct title, not a typo. (It means 'it's Season 7, let's have a wedding!'). -- Noneofyourbusiness 02:33, December 3, 2011 (UTC)

RE: Checking in

Yeah, it's been a while. Anyways, I've just been spending time with my family and just chillin' out. What 'bout you? (: --Love and Lust 03:28, December 25, 2011 (UTC)

Heads up!

Hello. I thought I would just inform you that on your archangel vs. Leviathan blog, an anonymous user called another user a faggot. I already told him it was quite unnecessary and whatnot but I think he should be blocked or at least be given a warning. --Love and Lust 21:48, December 31, 2011 (UTC)

No problem. :) Ever since what happened with TomWellingishot, I've been on the look-out for trolls. Can't be too careful, but that's just me. --Love and Lust 18:23, January 1, 2012 (UTC)

Pheonix

I thought I would talk to you, before I did any editing, couldn't it have been an unintended ability, or the fact she didn't belive any of her children would turn on her mother, or the fact that up until samual colt came into the picture with his, kill anything gun, nothing could kill a phenonix, and as such she didn't belive there would be pheonix ashes (I personally prefer the last one, as I think it would fit her personaliy if she purpously created it, to mock hunters and others, by there is a way to kill me, but there's no way for you to do it.)? What do you think?General MGD 109 23:56, January 2, 2012 (UTC)

First, thanks for welcoming me, and second, I see your point, it was just an idea I had, of course this does created the question, if the mother of all monster didn't create it, then who or what created the pheonix. General MGD 109 00:24, January 3, 2012 (UTC)

War

Hello, its me again, a while back I posted two questions about adding Content to War's page, but no one's replied, so I was wondering if you could have a look at it, and see if you could give me the answer, what do you say? General MGD 109 21:55, January 5, 2012 (UTC)

About your offer

I wouldn't mind, but truthly I'm not fully clear what an admin does, so before I say any more, could you either give me some information, or tell me where I can go for it, if you can, than thank you, if you can't, thank you for the offer.General MGD 109 18:16, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

I as you didn't give me a reply, can I take it that your offer has been withdrawn? If it has, then thank you any way for the offer. General MGD 109 21:41, January 11, 2012 (UTC)

Okay thanks, and take your time, if your to busy at the moment I can wait, I'm not going anywhere soon. General MGD 109 18:20, January 13, 2012 (UTC)

Speculation

Hello, its me again, following several editing conflicts, I have to ask whats your, and as such this wiki's, opion on speculation, not wild speculation, just simple speculation, like in a few of my last edits, as such it would be a great help if you could tell me. General MGD 109 14:31, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

This Twilight Despair 5. I have a few questions.

1. One is it possible I can become an admin. Normally yes I would have to be asked but that policy is not the same per wikia site. I ask as I rewatch every episode several times in the same day they are shown, to figure out questions. Also I don't add sepeculation to any site. I use the Salutes to Supernatural which are cast and crew stated facts.
2. I know about the sepeculation policy. However trivia sections can be like that. I mean for certain character the trivia adds sepeculation to from what real world religion theories something is from. Like with Eve and Lilith's origins. Sorry with the grammer but at least my edits to pages are 90% of the time completely grammer correct.: The Twilight of Your Despair 18:00, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Its me, again, thanks for telling, me, I completely understand, no speculation whats so ever. General MGD 109 21:45, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Very important

Okay, thanks for asking me, truthfully I far as I know, being able to create rain and storms falls under control of the weather, and the sky, rather than the water, but now I think about it, its is possible, and this page I'm looking at (it came up on a search) surgests so, so I say go for it, and here's the address of the page if you want to look (http://jeffreyploessl.tripod.com/id1.html) General MGD 109 21:53, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

Magic

Question to help with the site. Can the Magic site be used to describe all the magics the supernatural creatures, spirits, demons, deities, angels etc use. I thought that yes demons and witches often use magic or the word to describe their powers the most. But what the professor said to Dean in 1.11 Scarecrow. PROFESSOR: Well, Pagans believed all sorts of things were infused with magic. Also Gabriel called Kali blood power a blood spell. Pagan or deity magic. Also Castiel many times states stuff like from 5.10 Abandon All Hope CASTIEL I followed him. It's not far, but—it's layered in Enochian warding magic. Enochian or Angelic Magic. Like I hope this helps to improve the article. Not that is not ok but Magic is a genertic term normally referring to all kinds of magic, normal, angelic, divine, demonic, fairy etc.: The Twilight of Your Despair 20:14, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

That is correct. Just offering a chance to help with the site. I remember a few days ago someone an none admin kept putting delete tags on stuff. So I thought Magic could be the page well all directly stated magical powers and spells are used and by whom. But either or is fine. Btw I don't think you saw it is possible if I make the requirements to be an admin. Grammer and Spelling are made more precise on articles just talk page I feel. Unless you need to be formal just make the point.: The Twilight of Your Despair 20:24, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Its not rush. Just I do a lot of of Fanon wikia site editing. You know fanfictions but I do like to make edits to my favorite show(s) wikia sites too.: The Twilight of Your Despair 20:38, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks I seem to be made that alot. Lol. Anyway Thanks and I will continue when and if you ever want to be a full admin with complete right just drop me a dime. Also quess what if they make it to a eighth season one of the ideas they are thinking of is to intruduce two more types of characters. I read in a salute spoilier they will be called Nature and Chaos.: The Twilight of Your Despair 20:46, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Things the colt can't kill

Following your edit to the colt page, I found something I disagreed with, but before I changed it, I thought it would be best to ask you about it, so here goes, for things the colt can't kill you've put The four archangels and jesse turner, I must say I disagree with all of those.

Firstly he said things, rather than beings, impling that there are five types of cearture appart from him, that can't be killed by it, and the archangels are all the same sort of being,

Second I don't recall it ever being started Jesse turner couldn't be killed, he was just so powerful that they never got a chance to kill him, as castiel tried, and he transformed him into a doll, to proctect himself, that implies he could be killed, just he was to powerful to let it happen.

Finally, I always took it that the five things, that couldn't be killed were the Archangels, the horsemen, god, eve and the pagan gods (after all surely they would have used it against them when they had the chance, rather than going to all the trouble of finding a ancient ritual to kill them.)

Although that last one is just my ideas, I think my two points stand, what do you think? General MGD 109 22:14, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

Okay maybe its only higher pagan gods like, osiris, fate, chronos ect, but I do agree that if he did mean types of beings, the archangels are included, however I'm still sceptitcal towards it meaning beings, rather than type of beings, after all we both agree that it would include the other archangels, then why would he refer to his own brothers as things?

Also to defend my additions, the horsemen can't be killed by anything, (save maybe deaths scythe) after all if they could, surely they would have tried it,

If Eve could die at the hands of the colt, then why did they go to all the trouble of traveling back in time for the phenonix ashes?

And how can god, who is the only being more powerful than death, and completely imortal and ominipitant, not be imune to the colt?

On a final point, regarding Jesse, I defend my orginal opinion, that he can be killed, only he's so powerful that the oppertunity to kill him never prensents its self, after all if he was completely indestructable, than surely Casteil wouldn't have tried to kill him,

What do you think? General MGD 109 22:47, January 15, 2012 (UTC)

As that part of the article has been removed, can I take it are discusion is over? General MGD 109 19:52, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

Okay if you want to continue the disscusion, fine by me, although it will haft, to be tommorow, as I've got to go know, but first heres my point,

We both agree that god, the archangels, and the four horsemen wouldn't die if shot by the colt, that still leaves three places (there are five things, and as lucifer is an archangel, he can't be counted seperatly), now we both agree that the higher Pagan gods, couldn't die if hit by the colt, personally I defend my orginal sugestions, as in comparison to other lower pagan gods, (mercury, the catrigens) they are quite powerful.

Now I still think eve would be immune to the colt, just because the only thing that kills her, is killed by it, doesn't neccesarily mean it would kill her, the series seems to have a sort of all have certain strengths and weaknesses rule, after all higher faries, aren't more powerful than angels, but he could save sam's soul when an angel couldn't.

And finally for Jesse, I still think its along the lines, he can be killed, but he's so powerful he would kill them before they had a chance to kill him, to create an illusion, a bazooca can destroy a tank, but a tank could destroy and entire platoon before they had the chance to load.

I'll have to wait till tomorrow to here your reply, but those are my points. General MGD 109 21:19, January 16, 2012 (UTC)

I already have, its the one above this one. General MGD 109 18:32, January 17, 2012 (UTC)

As I got know reply, does that mean this discusion has finally ended? General MGD 109 19:42, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah your right, it is probaly time to end it, still it was interesting while it lasted, any way what do you think about my point below this one? General MGD 109 19:51, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

Chronos

I was wondering, should it be noted on Chronos's page that his power over time travel is greater than angels, when angels travel through time, it weakens, or atleas affects them, but doing so had no effect on him, the first time, he ran off the moment he arrived, the second he continued his fight without evening pausing. What do you think?General MGD 109 19:46, January 18, 2012 (UTC)

In need of a abitrator

Hello, for past few days, me and another editor have been in a sort of edit war, over a piece of information on Famine's page, and as its clear, we will never convince the other of being right, we've decided to put are arguments forward to you, and let you decide which one is right.

The question is, should the fact famine can effect the lights, be included under telekinesis or not?

Here is my argument, first I would like to point out, that we know from the episode that he does possess telekinesis, as seen in the demon devouring scene, and later at the end, secondly, the lights reacted to his mood, when he got angry they started to flicker and fail, then later broke all together, presumably also by his doing. Thirdly you have already agreed that this does not apply for electrokinesis, and I agree with you, now that I've had some time to think about it, so from this I have to conclude, as they react to his thoughts and moods, and it does not count as electrokinesis, it has to be telekinesis, after all isn't the definition of telekinesis "to make objects move, deform, float or break, by though, emotion or will."

Well that's my argument, my opentents is beneath, as such if you wouldn't mind reading them, and tell us which one of us you agree with. General MGD 109 12:59, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm confused

Sorry, I'm confused, what do you mean, with your last message? I've already relised I was wrong to think it was electrokinesis, after all he only showed control over the machinery, not the electricity in the machinery. General MGD 109 21:42, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Okay thanks, so do you agree with me or my opponent, over wether or not it should be included in the telekinesis section? General MGD 109 21:56, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, glad that matter, is finally cleared up. General MGD 109 22:09, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Changelings?

I'm curious, shouldn't there be some mention or link to changelings on the fairy page?General MGD 109 00:45, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Does it count?

Does creating something, out of nothing, count as reality warping? General MGD 109 21:50, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Pestilence and Eve, General MGD 109 22:07, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Well he could create, any form of illness and aliment out of nothing, I assumed both of them would fall under, minor reality warping, what do you think? General MGD 109 22:17, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, just asking, General MGD 109 22:26, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Response to your message

On the contrary, you indeed disregarded me whether it was intentional or not as you unfairly issued a ruling before I was given an opprotunity to submit my own argument. 76.212.203.66

My opinion

Hi, ImperiexSeed, I sincerely appericate your interest in my opinion despite the settlement of the dispute. To began, I want to clarify that I have no hard feelings toward you as I do not believe your disregard was intentional. After rewatching the scene in "My Bloody Valentine" General MGD 109 refered to, I noticed the lights went out momentarily as Famine began infecting people in the diner. As such, I believe it was no more than a brief reacton to the magnitude of his power to influence hunger. Do not get me wrong, I am no way arguing against Famine is capable of telekinetically effecting electrical equipment by either thought or emotion, I just doubt that is the case for the scene in question. What are you thoughts? 76.212.198.73 03:48, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, at least when Famine was infecting the people in the diner. My belief is his influence affected the lights similarly to a shock wave.. 76.212.198.73 07:32, January 24, 2012 (UTC)

Admin help

This is posted for its talkpage

The official transprict on the Super-wiki version of this site. http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Chronos is spelled Chronos not Cronos. Credits can be wrong. That site uses direct transpricts. However or not its spelled like that if the series uses that form we as an information site should do the same.:

That site uses directs transpricts of the character official names. So please affirm that just if the credits missed spelled it its spelled. Chronos not Cronos hell in even early Greek Mythology their are two things with similar names. Chronos the presonalifiction of time and Cronus or whatever its called a Titain.: The Twilight of Your Despair 16:59, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

P.S. I came to you rather than the other user that keeps changing it.: The Twilight of Your Despair 16:59, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Its not a very important issue but if users can call the article itself what they want than people might stop adding to site.: The Twilight of Your Despair 22:58, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Will state that official to on its talk page as an admin. After all the Supernatural Super-wiki buys exact copies of the episodes transcripts so they have a list of all names. Just as we are an information site we have to uphear to the standards that even if its not right until the show changes it we cannot. Than we are taking owner ship away from the cast and crew.: The Twilight of Your Despair 23:11, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

i wouldve been on this wikia a long time ago, i happened to be messed onto another supernatural wikia that had no account users, i love spn and have seen every season and own the anime series even, although im not the biggest fan of s7(one of the main reasons, they killed off my favorite angel)

NiklausElijahEricGodric2011 19:41, January 27, 2012 (UTC)

Need for a page

I was thinking, there should be a page, for the ability to control/influence others, as several charaters have had this ability, but I can't think what to call it, and I was wondering if you had any ideas? General MGD 109 22:03, January 29, 2012 (UTC)

No I didn't mean like that, I ment more like mental sugestion, Famine could make anyone hungry, or act out there deepest desires, The seven deadly sins could make people act out on of there sins, those two special children, whose names escape me at the moment, could force anyone to do anything by word, I mean like that, none of those people where possesed or telekineticall controled, more mental influence. General MGD 109 21:55, January 30, 2012 (UTC)

Re: Souls

ImperiexSeed said: "True, but stabbing an angel in the Grace kills it, therefore it must have some importance in the angel's anatomy"

Now you're just making stuff up.

1. It's never explained where angel's Grace resides inside its body, or if it's in a single spot at all.

2. At no point is it said that an angel must be "stabbed in its Grace" to kill it, nor has it ever been said that the Grace can be stabbed at all. Anna said it was just pure energy. That's it.

3. Angels have been killed by being stabbed all over the place--Uriel in his neck, Cass has stabbed several angels in the back and chest, Lucifer more or less gutted Gabriel, and Zachariah had a blade rammed up into his brain--so if the Grace does reside in a single spot inside an angel's body, then there's no correlation between "stabbing an angel's Grace" and killing it. The wound from the angel blade just has to be fatal, like with demons and the Big-Time Magic Knife.

4. The Soul page is about souls, and it has been made clear that angels do not possess souls, so that stuff about Raphael corrupting an angel's soul has no business on that page.

5. Raphael doesn't even have to ability to corrupt an angel's soul/heart/Grace. I would like to know exactly when/where its explained that Raphael can take over an angel's will and make them his slave. 'Cause if that were possible, there never would have been a war in Heaven because Raphael could have just made all the angels do what he wanted--but that's not how it went down. Plus Anna, Uriel and Castiel were all able to disobey, and were each severely punished for it, and that was even with Michael running the ship.

I know this might seem petty, but I also love this show very much and I am committed to making sure the information on the Supernatural Wikia is accurate, and I'm telling you that the stuff on that page is wrong.

(Also, I'm sorry if this isn't the right venue for this kind of discussion. If it's not, please let me know where the right one is. I didn't want start a war or whatever, so I brought the things I had to say here.)

Damaijin 21:37, January 31, 2012 (UTC)

Cass was lying when he said Raphael corrupted Rachel. She turned on Cass, but not the cause. She found out about his deal with Crowley and tried to stop him when he refused to give up on the Purgatory plan. He probably told Bobby she was corrupted to keep them off of Crowley's trail or to keep himself in a good light (or both).

If Raphael were to have corrupted an angel, it probably would have been through conventional means like intimidation, lying, persuasion or appealing to greed. I don't think Archangels have a special ability that can do that.

Thanks, -- Damaijin 21:25, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

Astra projection

Should there be a page on astral projection? After all it is a power, several beings have been shown to posses. What do you think? General MGD 109 23:03, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

Well dean and Sam use it in that episode where Alister kidnaps the Reapers, and the psycic alie of theres could perform it, but I can't think of any one elses, are they enought? General MGD 109 23:26, February 4, 2012 (UTC)

RE: My absence

I've been rather busy lately, but I'm fine. I've just been doing some major work on The Twilight Saga Wiki and April Showers Wiki, the latter needing major construction. --Love and Lust 23:06, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Response to your changes to the Invulernability page

Hi, ImperiexSeed, your stubbornness is understandable and I thank you for adrsssing my concerns on the Invulnerability page. However, I disaprove of your changes because you basically moved the vulnerability details from "Characters with this ability" to a sperate heading as such it does not look very well written. To clearify, I was fine with the parantheses, I just felt they should detail both the extent of a character's invulnerablity and thier weaknesses much like the Invulnerability page on the Smallville Wiki. In my opinion the page still needs improvement and expansion, but that can be done over time. I look forward to your response. 76.212.203.62 23:45, February 6, 2012 (UTC)

Hi ..i wanted to talk about your strength article on your page. I noticed you have leviathans under angels. That is incorrect. I guess the debate is that leviathanS are stronger as a group. It should be listed as a single Leviathan. since numbers usually dont contradict the scale(only exceptians being demons against angels, and leviathanS against angels). Winchester7314 01:47, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for listening, but i thought i might mention the group of demons that took down the angels in 6x22. Winchester7314 03:00, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

I am referring to the scene in which Dean and Bobby are watching the lab that cas is at(after betraying crowley), and they hear a big booming noise, which ends up being a large group of demon smoke, which flips the Impala with Dean and Bobby inside it. They then seige the lab, killing all the "dozen angels" Bobby mentioned seeing. As proof heres a clip unfortunately the part is in two different parts lol... Dean and Bobby part [1] Demons sieging [2]

Please don't take me the wrong way, im not tryin to argue like a lil b****, im just explaining my thoughts(just so you not getin frustrated :P) but what i thought was when cas is looking at the papers, you hear punching and screaming, and obviously no angels are coming to cas's rescue so your left to assume that the demons killed them. but i guess they couldve mearly disabled them or sent them back to heaven(as quoted by Alastair). So i guess its up for debate. Winchester7314 16:18, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Invunrability?

Should the leviathans really be classed as invunrable? Invunrable means can not be harmed or injured, they by injured, as easy as well human, they just can't be harmed, no that's not right, they can still be harmed, after all that one who took a car hitting him, was knocked out cold by it, so they can be harmed, just not killed or badly harmed, after all, they can cut, shot, stabbed or beaten as easy as a human, they just take significant force to harm them in any way, and can't be killed. General MGD 109 21:06, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Samhain

I was wondering, after Samhain locks the students in the crypt, and raises the zombies to kill them, do you think the tombs shaking, was the zombies inside, or was it Samhain, shaking there containers lose so they could escape? After all, I know Zombies (at least in the supernatural) are strong, but don't recall anyone being that strong, there's also the fact, that despite all the tombs shaking, only a few zombies break out, what do you think? I was wondering, as if it was Samhain, then it means he has telekinesis, and it should be included on his page. General MGD 109 22:58, February 10, 2012 (UTC)

So I can add telekinesis on his page, thanks. I was wondering, what do you think to my above question? General MGD 109 00:36, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Catagory

Great, and I completely agree with that, I was also wondering if you minded if I made another Catagory, one for higher tier demons, what do think? General MGD 109 21:47, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

I respectfully disagree, I think Lilith, Alister, Samhain and possibly crowley, the seven deadly sins and Achei would also fall under that catagory, what do think? General MGD 109 21:52, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Okay thanks, but I'm unsure about cutting out the seven deadly sins, I admit there is more than one of them, but there still very powerful demons, and very high up, so I think that they should be added to the catagory. General MGD 109 22:14, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, your right, after all there powerful, but as weak as normal demons, well I seem to have a problem, I've added the catagory to five pages, but the catagory's page only recond three of them, could look into this and see if theres a problem, please? General MGD 109 22:24, February 11, 2012 (UTC)

Chat

Sorry about leaving like that. My internet just flipped out on me.. --Love and Lust 18:04, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

My internet connection just crapped out on me. Again. --Love and Lust 18:35, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, my internet connection officially sucks. --Love and Lust 18:42, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

I know right? Anyway, I unfortunately don't have a Facebook. I've been thinking about getting an account, though. --Love and Lust 18:47, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Believe what you want, Ray. And no, my avatar isn't of me. It's of Kate Middleton. --Love and Lust 18:52, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry; you were seriously getting on my bad side, which btw doesn't take much work to do. Just a head's up for future reference. Xoxo, --Love and Lust 19:00, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Well, you had me under the impression that you thought I was a lying, scheming manipulative little bitch which is anything but true, so yes, you were pissing me off. --Love and Lust 19:06, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it was about the Facebook thing. Now, you can talk to me but for future reference, please tread with caution with what you say to me. --Love and Lust 19:08, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, here's the deal. Until I get a Facebook, being friends on Wikia will have to do. That's all I'm saying. --Love and Lust 19:14, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

It's fine, just forget it happened. Believe me, I want to be friends too. You just struck a major nerve when you said you didn't believe me, that's all. --Love and Lust 19:25, February 12, 2012 (UTC)

Reporting vandalism

Hi, ImperiexSeed, I just wanted to let you know that a user recently removed all content from the Dean Winchester, Sam Winchester, Castiel, Bobby Singer, Azazel and Mary Winchester pages. Another user and I undid the vandalism but as you are an admin, I thought I should let you know. 76.212.202.45 07:30, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

You're welcome. As you are the most active admin on this wiki, rest asure I will report directly to you whenever I see any major vandalism. 76.212.200.251 20:18, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

I've got it

you remeber you asking me, if I thought that you had covered and made a page for every power that appears more than once in the series, and I said I couldn't think of anything, well something eventually came to me, what about Technopathy, the ability to manipulate technology, after all you wouldn't allow that to be mentioned on electrolysis, because you (quite rightly) said that it didn't have much to do with generating or manipulating electricity, so why not create a page for it? What do you say. Ps: I like your idea for a blog. General MGD 109 22:17, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Okay what about, Famine, able to cause lights to flicker, Crowley able to turn of bobby's tv by pointe, Azazel who could make clocks stop, and electrical devices go haywire, ghosts who can also manipulate electronic devices, but mostly lights, Chronos, who could control devices that measured time (this might be down to manipulating time itself, but I guess both are equal speculation) do you want me to continue, even discounting angels, a lot of creatures seem to be able to manipulate technology. General MGD 109 22:30, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

To continue, well admitadly it is more to do with machines, by the definition of Technopathy is "to manipulate or cause electrical device's to break," and If your going to put it down to telekinesis, to argue, I would like to state, that all Pyrokinesis, Terrakinesis, electrokinesis and moleculekinesis are, are advanced forms of telekinesis, but they each have a page, and I also think atleast a few of my examples, are warent its existance, still the choice is yours, if you honestly belive that it doesn't exist, in the supernatural universe, or it isn't worth a page, I'll stop putting it forward. General MGD 109 22:43, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

O dear no, it doesn't, if I gave you any indication that your dissision annoyed or offended me any way, then I am deeply sorry, that was not my intent, I was just try to put across my argument. And sure if you think it doesn't exist then it doesn't, until, like you said, a new charater proves other wise. General MGD 109 22:49, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Okay if I think of any, your be the first person I tell. General MGD 109 22:55, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

Me? Holding a grudge?

I'm not holding a grudge, ImperiexSeed, I swear. I've just had a lot on my plate lately (and no, I don't want to talk about it) And to be honest, I really don't want to get into an argument about this with you, okay? Thanks. --Love and Lust 00:55, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

Pitch for Episode Page revamps

I've noticed a lot of episode pages with really, really extensive summary sections, some of which could be considered word-for-word narratives. With permission, I'd like to begin creating episode transcript pages and transferring these summaries there, and then start rewriting more condensed summaries for the episode pages themselves.

Reasons:
1. Summaries that long are unnecessary (not that they aren't nice to have); you don't need that kind of detail to convey the meat of the story.
2. The way they're written, with character dialogues being back-to-back, makes for some awkward reading.
3. Transferring the long summaries elsewhere lowers the data size of the page, resulting in both faster loading times all around and increased accessibility for Wikia Mobile users. (It'll make it easier on their data plans, too.)

Let me know? Thanks,

Damaijin 01:27, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

No, I haven't discussed it with other admins, but if you could let me know who others are, I will. (You're the only admin I know of on this Wikia.)

Damaijin 04:11, February 15, 2012 (UTC)

The main character of Supernatural

Hi, ImperiexSeed, I have a question for you. In your opinion, which Winchester brother is the main character of Supernatural. Personally, I think it's Dean for a number of reasons. 76.212.204.180 03:09, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for responding to my question, ImperiexSeed. Although you and I have a difference in opinions on who is the more prominent brother, I do not disagree with you as both our reasonings are probably well-founded. On a side note, one reason why I would consider Sam as the main character over Dean is his connection to the two catalysts of Supernatural, Azazel and Lucifer. 76.212.204.180 03:58, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

Our fight

I'm ready to talk about what happened. I probably won't be online to chat by the time you get this, but I'm sorry for lashing out at you the way I did. It's just been a very, oh-so very stressful week for me and I had no right to take it out on you and for that, I'm sorry. Please, reply as soon as possible. --Love and Lust 04:50, February 16, 2012 (UTC)

intersting idea

Interesting idea, yeah that wouldn't be a bad catagory, but it needs a better name, sadly I can't think of one. General MGD 109 18:07, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Since you asked for my opinion, I don't think its a good idea. But you have your mind set on it go for it. But keep in mind that this is a very wide by narrow category. Doesn't everything eat at a point? So in short, I don't think its good idea. Mr.Comatose 18:17, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Still think its not something to create. Mr.Comatose 18:51, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

Confusion over the Hunger-based catagory

Hi, ImperiexSeed, I am confused by the Hunger-based catagory as I find it's current state too vague. Although I am in favor of the catagory, I must point out hunger would apply to the existence of nearly every being/creature in Supernatural. Is there anyway we can retool the catagory to be more suspefic? If not, than I relunctantly have to agree with Mr. Comatose thar it is not a good idea. 76.212.202.227 21:38, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

I understand why you created the Hunger-based catagory, but as I already said it's current sate is far too vague and could easily be misinterpreted for hunger in general. I ask you again is there anyway we can retool the catagory to be more suspefic (e.g how a being/creature's demeanor revolves around hunger)? 76.212.192.243 01:48, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

For starters, I believe General MGD 109 is correct about the catagory needing a better name. Personally, I suggest "feeding" as an alternative name as that may be more explicit. As to the catagory itself, let me get back to you on that, as I want to conduct some research to devise a solution. However, I would at least describe the demeanor of the Leviathans' hunger/feeding as canabalistic. 76.212.192.243 06:11, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Background's skin.

IS, Out of curiosity, I've taken a small tour of this wiki - and had a hard-ish time in reading the text against the background skin. In part, I think, it was due to being white text against a, mostly, gray background, in part because there was too much distraction from the background pic. May I suggest that at least the text area be completely black? It would make for a *much* improved reading experience. Of course, the lateral areas can be anything you like. Best, MinorStoop 22:05, February 19, 2012 (UTC)

I finally got one

I finally came up with an idea, what about Chronokinesis, the abbility to manipulate time, after all a lot of creatures can do that, Reapers, Atropos, Chronos, Angels, Archangels. What do you think? General MGD 109 20:45, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

I didn't mean as in traveling through time, I ment as in manipulating time, Reapers, Atropos and Chronos can all manipulate time, and stop it. General MGD 109 19:06, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Okay good point. General MGD 109 20:14, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Admining

I know several things about the concepts of designing, evil creatures, Wikia and high English, therefore I wish to aid with the website. Yet, my help is limited being just a guest, even with an account. So, if it not much of a bother, I would like to become an admin and maximize the potential this website has.

All the best,

Kratos Jr.

just a question

Here, if we can't have a page, called technokinesis, can I atleast add it to the pages, with charaters who do?General MGD 109 21:04, February 20, 2012 (UTC)

hey boss can you please eliminate this page http://supernatural.wikia.com/wiki/Glen as Mr.Comatose told me that only admins can do that, the reason is that this is a duplicated page. The real one was confused with the page of a guy named Kurt that appeared in Heart. And by that i mean that Glen's information was in Kurt's page and we don't even have the page of that guy. Damon-Balthazar-Salvatore 00:37, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Fair point.General MGD 109 19:06, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Rocksalt?

I'm writting to question the article being called rocksalt, after all, although rocksalt is prefrable, several times they use ordinary salt for the same purpose, and it seems almost as effective. Could you change it please? General MGD 109 20:58, February 21, 2012 (UTC)

Dean and Death Page

I hadn't thought about that. Its interesting concept the relationship between Dean and Death. Hmmmmmm, well it does span three seasons. You know what go for it. I'll help with the content along the way. Good idea. Mr.Comatose 03:05, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Admining

I don't intend to rush anything, but has the desicion been made? I am quite curious about the issue. Kratos Jr. 16:49, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

An explanation and my apologies

Hi, ImperiexSeed, I just wanted to explain that my removal of the photo on the Chuck Shurley page was an honest misunderstanding. In my impulsiveness, I mistook the page for God's when I saw your edit on the Wiki Activity, assuming you had readded it to his page. As soon as I realized my mistake, I added the photo back to Chuck's page. I sincerely apologize for getting on your nerves, I'll be sure be more careful to look before I leap from now on. On a side note, there is no need to be so antagontistic towards me as I am not your enemy nor were my intentions malicious. 76.212.194.222 23:35, February 22, 2012 (UTC)

Fully agreed., ImperiexSeed.. 76.212.194.222 01:43, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

My response to your inquiry on my Supernatural favorites

Hi, ImperiexSeed, I will have to give it some thought, so I will get back to you. In the meantime, do you mind telling me what are your Supernatural favorites? 76.212.194.222 09:07, February 23, 2012 (UTC)

Okay now I've got one

What about dream walking? After angels, archangels, sephirs, and higher demons can appear in peoples dreams and manipulate them, does that deserve a page?

Ps: you don't mind me including the chronokinesis on the time travel page do you? I figured you were right and it was to similiar for a seperate page, so I added the information at the bottem of that page.

Should we have dream walking as a page?

Okay deal, I'll ask everyone what they think, and to tell you. General MGD 109 19:34, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, so will you add it? I mean I know that no one replied here, but one person did reply on my page, you can check if you like, and they liked the idea, and you said if the majority liked it, you would add it, so what do you say? After all we do have much less broad pages. General MGD 109 20:51, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I'll keep asking them. General MGD 109 22:16, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, and sure if people don't want it, get rid of it, and your right, you would think they would atleast reply, even if they don't agree. Again thanks. General MGD 109 22:35, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

Seraphs and the Seraphim

I am not asking for you to delete or create any articles. But in supernatural as of now there are three orders or forms of angels. Archangels, Angels, and Cherubs from greatest to lowest. Now for Angels is the collective term for all kinds of angels that aren't of the four original Archangels or Cherubs which calls them a lower class of Angel third class." Now mostly there are several different kinds of angels but Seraphs like Zachariach are Seraphs, but they are addressed first as an angel in the umbrella term Angel. Now as to why he is stronger than Castiel that simply he is a Seraph but he isn't not comparible to an Archangel and he was in an separate rank than Castiel, a higher one. Inshort this is what I mean.

1 Archangels

2.Seraphs

3. Angels

4. Cherubs

This is misleading.

It should be like this

1.Archangels

2. Angels ( As Zachariah is a Seraph based off his appearance he still is in this collective term for he is not an Archangel or a Cherub.)

3.Cherub

If an official source states that Seraphs have a separate class than I will be happy to change it. : The Twilight of Your Despair 01:15, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Meet on the chat?: The Twilight of Your Despair 02:19, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Chat

Meet me on the chat?: The Twilight of Your Despair 00:04, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

I walking talking not protected areas I was talking about being limited to only remaining on Earth like Demons. Angels can go anywhere that is not protect by Enochian warding magic. Hence them going to Heaven and Hell. Also Anna clearly stated that to Castiel remark that Satan would just revive Sam that she would scatter his cells across the universe.: The Twilight of Your Despair 01:16, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

I was wondering

I was wondering, do you think Azazels ability to cause internal bleeding, and make blood pour out of a persons mouth, as well as create obvious physical pain, would that count as moleculkinesis? General MGD 109 20:39, February 27, 2012 (UTC)

Near the end of devils trap, where he's torturing dean, before he kills him. General MGD 109 18:42, February 28, 2012 (UTC)

Recent Wiki Activity

He there Imperiex. You probably remember me from the Smallville wikis, and I was just wondering, do you think you could install an Auto-Update for the Recent Wiki Activity? If you don't know what I mean, you can look at the Elder Scrolls wiki. XV DEaD ShOT xV 23:29, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

But they're supernatural WyattVisit   18:40,3/3/2012 

They talk about holy land in season 1 WyattVisit   20:06,3/3/2012 

I't does need to be added because its talked about in season 1 about ghosts and demons not being able to enter if youre going to delete it tell me why you have a page on salt? yet there both used for the same thing WyattVisit   20:13,3/3/2012 

Sandwich?

Sandwich? Sorry, no I don't remeber any reality warping sandwich in Adventures in Babysitting, Could you please discribe it? And are you sure you have the right episode? Adventures in Babysitting, is the one directly after bobbys death, when Sam goes off to save another hunter from, the Snakewomen monsters, but get captured, so Dean and the Hunters daugther, have to go save them. General MGD 109 21:17, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Oh that sandwich, and truthly I don't think that would class as reality warping, it was more like chemical mutation, it didn't change anything through power, it simply mutated the people who ated, making them out of it, and greedy, and gain weigth quickly, there are drugs now that can do all that, and they don't count as reality warping, admitadly the whole changing some people into zombies, is strange, but thats more of a unforseen reaction, than a manipulation reality, so sorry, I don't think it would count.General MGD 109 21:36, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

No problem, I don't mind, and it wasn't that stupid, on to the coin thats different, that deffienly should be included, as it could clearly manipulate reality, after all it made a woman fall madly in love, a teddy bear come to life, a man win the lottery, and lightining strike sam. Also can I make a surgesstion, what about the rabbits foot? Shouldn't that also be included, as it manipulated reality and made its holder, incredibly lucky. General MGD 109 21:47, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Pardon for the interruption, but I just wanted to point out the Tiamant Coin's power to make any wish come true would also classify as Wish Granting. 76.212.203.206 22:00, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

To whoever wrote the point above this one, wish granting would also count as manipulating reality, so both statements are true, any way to you, I can't think of any of the top of my head, give me a while. General MGD 109 22:06, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

After looking over, I still can't think of anything, except maybe, splitting some of them, between charaters and races. General MGD 109 22:29, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

No that would be daft, I ment, splitting it into caratories, one for races that posses the power, one for inderviduals who posses this power, but atleast the majorit of there race doesn't. General MGD 109 22:41, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Well, personally, I always found it confusing, to have its say charaters then list races, next to actual charaters, but it was only a suggestion, if you don't like it, you don't have to add it. General MGD 109 22:52, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Firstly, sure there should, and secondly, as to what it should be called, I'm afraid the best I can come up with is Disease Manipulation. General MGD 109 23:18, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Back

My wifi when out for like 40 minutes but I am on the chat now.: The Twilight of Your Despair 22:58, March 3, 2012 (UTC)

Unless your busy I will be on the chat and my new router is better than my old one.: The Twilight of Your Despair 02:42, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Check out my newest blog Season 8 confirmed? and let me know if that site link is a relible one.: The Twilight of Your Despair 22:17, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Response to your message

No, I was not suggesting the creation of a Wish Granting page, I just thought we should acknowledge the Tiamat Coin manipulates reality in the form of granting wishes. I checked your edit on the Reality Warping page and you have my approval. 76.212.197.30 06:22, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Smallville

Hey Imperiex, just wanted to make sure that you knew that Smallville Season 11 is legit. You probably already know, but the Smallville Series is continuing on in Comic book form! Here's the link. XV DEaD ShOT xV 18:51, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

How is death alive he is DEATH he aint deaceased but he pretty much dead WyattVisit   21:29,3/5/2012 

A few questions

Okay I have a few things I would like to ask you, firstly I was wondering if you would agree with me that Azazel's power to cause clocks to stop with his presence would count as Chronokinesis, becuse in the show the ability to do this comes from disrupting the flow of time, as done by reapers and Chronos, so what do you think?

Secondly, Do you think Mental Manipulation (the ability to erase memories, implant false ones and restore removed ones) counts as telepathy, Mind control or diserves a page of its own?

Thirdly I had an idea for a page, what about Healing? The ability to heal a mortal, of any wound, Angels, Crossroads Demons (through deals), Azazel, Archangels and Reapers (by giving it to someone else) can do this, and you said, if I had any idea's for a power page to tell you.

Fourthly, following the previous point what about Death touch, the ability to kill by touch, Reapers, Death, Micheal, certain ghosts and that special child who's name escapes me could all kill a being by touch, so do you think that qualifys for a power page?

Fifthly, Why is the Eve page locked? It means it can't be added to.

Finally, Following are previous discutions, on candidates for a Aliments affinty page, do you think Reapers would count? As they can take a persons illness and give it to another. Also certian ghosts can infect others with illness. Can they be counted?

What do you think? General MGD 109 19:31, March 6, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, and I'll do those things, but I can't do it today, as I'm busy, but just to note, although for my first question, I agree with you, I would like to point out, Reapers can do that, and Azazel showed he could causily overpower reapers. General MGD 109 17:32, March 7, 2012 (UTC)

What I think

Well I'm afraid I have to agree with them, I mean there good pages on there own, but so far we haven't seen a enemy who posses them, just posses a form of weather mainpulation, I mean if they had thought some one like the god of the sea, or the god of the air, then they would definatly stand, but as they haven't then I have to agree, there uneeded, still there always a chance, they will fight them later, so don't despair. General MGD 109 20:34, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Well I ment, if they thought someone like Posidon, the greek god of the sea, who could control the waves and the ocean, or Shu the Egyptian god of the air, but I was simply using them to back up my point. General MGD 109 20:46, March 9, 2012 (UTC)

Its my other account OA

Was Gabriel banished or did he fall? WyattVisit   17:06,3/10/2012 

okay

Well If you say they shouldn't be there, I'm not going to argue with you, but it does say inhabitants, and all of them live on the earth. General MGD 109 19:41, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Animals

Well I'm Unsure if thats nesesary, but okay, there's cows, who Azazel always killed a lot of when he visited, Rats and Spiders, and cats, of the top of my head I can't think of any others who have appeared, but if I do, I'll let you know, No wait, Elephants. Okay now I'll think about it. General MGD 109 21:45, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Like I said, I'm not going to argue with you over it, I just simply personally don't see the need for it, that's all. General MGD 109 22:04, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Location Template

Doesn't sound like a bad idea, yeah you should go for that. General MGD 109 22:16, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I don't actually know how to create a template, so I can't do it. General MGD 109 22:27, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Tell me more about this idea. and what you want me to do to help Castiel harvelle 23:25, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

Just read your message, i found this template i think this is what you asked Damon-Balthazar-Salvatore 23:29, March 10, 2012 (UTC)

If you asking what I think you ask I don't know how to fix Template Codex Codes. Btw won't pagan gods be under rulers and inhabitants. As most pagan deities don't hold authority like God or his Angels. As Lucifer stated they forfited the planet to them long ago. So they would more former rulers than current ones. Also minus any unheard of special realm don't pagan gods live or at least stay mostly on the Earth as Angels live in Heaven, demons in Hells and fairies in avalon. As the only heard of pagan realm was when Odin and Zao Shen were arguing he said that he would send him back to Valhalla. But your call. Btw not to show rude but you did kind of forcefully told to me change something. While I am not Chat Moderator I am not offical admin.: The Twilight of Your Despair 03:15, March 11, 2012 (UTC)

Zachariah

Why's Zachariah's page now locked? I tried to make some additions to your redo of his powers, but it wouldn't let me, could you unlock it? If you can't could you atleast make some additions, there are many powers he has that you don't mention, superstrength, Moleculkinesis, Teleportation, Dreamwalking, Healing and reserection. General MGD 109 21:33, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, it looks a lot better, theres still a few things missing, but compared to its old look, its a hundered times better, sorry I didn't change it, I intended to, but I kept putting it off, and I guess now I can't do it, sorry you had to. Anyway about your question, I agree its unlike they have superspeed, I mean sure its stated a human could never match a angel in knife combat, but I think they were refering to strength and agilty, I can think of several instances were if they had, they would have used it, off the top of my head, so no I don't think they do. General MGD 109 21:35, March 14, 2012 (UTC)

Lucifer

hey boss, i checked the page and that gallery you eliminated works fine on the appearences section, can i add the gallery on that section? Damon-Balthazar-Salvatore 17:05, March 15, 2012 (UTC)

Main villains

Hello, ImperiexSeed. You could delete the category "Main Villains" in Zachariah's article? - David Kaique

First thanks for fixing my edits on the big bad page, just have a few things, firstly could you re add Zachariah's picture, as he is the secondary agonist of the season. Secondly, are you sure Death shouldn't be included, granted he was doing it unwillingly, but he is still one of the four horsemen of the apocalypse, and he was responsible for the events in three episodes, thats more than two of the other horsemen.

My final point, is are you sure Lucifer shouldn't be classed as Season Seven's Secondary Agonist, granted he only attacks Sam, and as far as we know he is simply a hullicination, but he has still been torturing Sam the whole season, and now sam can't do anything about it, he has also been the secondary agononist in "Meet the new boss" "Hello cruel word" "Repo man" and "Out with the old" (not seen but he caused Sam to break into that state)" as well as being the (as far as I know) main agonist in the upcoming episode "The born again identity", and being mentioned in "How to win friends and influence monsters"

Just a few things, please get back to me soon. General MGD 109 19:21, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Chat

Wanna meet me there? --Love and Lust 21:35, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Supersenses

Hey, I had another idea, what about super senses? After many monster posses supersenses, Vampires, Werewolfs, Skinwalkers, Eve, Corrata ect. So how about does that qualify? General MGD 109 20:49, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Exactly, just as I thought it, I also thought it could be split into catagories for each sense, for example Vampires have enhanced vision, so much so that light hurts them, skinwalkers have enhanced hearing, werewolfs have enhanced sense of smell. What do you think? By the way if you agree, do you want to make the page, or have me do it? General MGD 109 19:28, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, I don't have long, but I've made some additions to the page, its not exactly what I had in mind, but it looks great, thanks again for including my idea, by the way, I'm sorry about including nothing for Leshi, I couldn't think of an example, also would you mind if I included Death, he was able to hear dean attempting to to sneak up on him in "Two Minutes to Midnight" would that quallify, or is that to much like speculation? Still again thanks. General MGD 109 17:50, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Good point, it propably wasn't his senses, and to your question, its mostly like what I imagined but for the examples I imagened it something like this:

Vampire - An overall, all-around manner, and therefore likely the most attuned creatures; with their hearing, eyesight, and smell are all enhanced to extreme levels.

• Hearing - There hearing is good enough to hear a persons heart,

• Sight - There eyesight so sensitive, that even normal light blindess them,

• Smell - There sense of smell, able to track others over miles.

Of course this is only if there is specific examples, well what do you think? I don't mind if you don't change it, as I like it the way it is aswell, I am writing this simply because you asked. General MGD 109 19:36, March 23, 2012 (UTC)

Vandalism

Hey there has been major vandalism to the Sam Winchester page. I don't how much is missing, but I removed all the inappropriate content. Could you do something about the missing images and the people destroying this page? Thanks.

Mr.Comatose 03:30, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

I honestly think that a new method should be used for editing...since its' wikia, we cant do away with the right of everyone to edit, but i think all edits by non-admins such as myself, should be approved by admins. Winchester7314 23:30, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

not a bad idea

I don't think its a bad idea of yours merging the two, after all they are quite similiar, although I would also suggest, possibly adding it to the same page, but under a different heading, like with the mind control page and the time travel page.

on another note, I'm going to be away for a few days, so I may not be able to add, so don't be surprised if my activity drops a lot till friday. General MGD 109 22:40, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

YI'm back

Hi I'm back, and I've heard about your modification, and I have to say its a great idea, Biokinesis, why didn't I think of that? Still atlast you have merged the two topics. Great Idea, I'll help out as much as I can.

Now there are a few other things, firstly I'm unsure about having Zachariah on reality warping, the evidence, sounds more like telekinesis/molecukesis and healing than reality warping. And Crowley on conjuring, isn't drop a castle on you just an expression, and a threat, rather than a sign of conjuring? Still, just some ideas.

On a final note, I've just heard, that after supernatural ends, there making a prequeal about samual colt, and his life as a hunter, I was wondering what do you think about that idea? General MGD 109 20:40, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure that's a rumor. and either way, i dont think they would do something like that, it's too small a part of supernatural. Winchester7314 21:59, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry two things I forgot, you've removed the colt as a possible weakness on the reaper page, on the grounds it couldn't hit the reaper which is intangable, but I always thought they were only intangable when they wanted to be the rest of the time they were just invisble, the reaper in Faith had no trouble touching the people, nor did Alister have any trouble touching the reaper in Death takes a holiday, and Azazel possesed a reaper the same way he possesed humans in My time of dying, all of which suggests they are tangable.

The second thing is, the Wraith page powers, needs altering to the sight standards, now I would normally do it myself, but I never actually saw the episode where the wraith appeared in, so I don't actually now any more than the page says, and all the text only mentions on power, so I was hoping you would be able to do it. General MGD 109 22:21, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Okay if you say so, its just not what I think of when I think of reality warping, but hey your the admin, your word is final, well as as to the Wraith page, if you look at it, its entilely text, much like the ruby or zachariah page was, and I thought it should be changed to match all the other pages, but I never actually saw the episode, so I can't do it.

any way, about the other things, your probably right, although I'm still not sure about the reaper bit. If you have the time, will join me on chat, its easily to talk that way, atleast it is when its working. General MGD 109 21:02, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I was thinking, you know how on the monster page, the list is organised into monsters and stronger monsters, well I was thinking, what about adding other headings to seperate them, based on there strength what do you think?General MGD 109 18:39, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, it just strikes me, there are some monsters that are notably stronger than others, but not as strong as the highest monsters so I thought it wouldn't be a bad idea to seperate them. General MGD 109 19:29, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

This may take me a while. General MGD 109 19:41, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Yes that sounds good, but I actually have it as Four catagories, Higher-tier, Middle-tier, Normal-tier and Lower-tier, and I'm in the middle of ranking them now, I worked out a scoring system based on the monsters strength, other powers, durability, and how hard it is to kill them, I should be finished soon. General MGD 109 19:56, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, it took me longer than I thought it would, but I'm finished now, and I'm just about to add it, tell me what you think. General MGD 109 20:43, April 8, 2012 (UTC)

Okay I'm on chat, sorry I'm a bit late. General MGD 109 19:58, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry Wrong page. General MGD 109 20:02, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Castiel needs cleaning

I just thought I'd mention to someone... any mod or admin, that the page needs some attention. Tagging it for cleanup would be good. Right now there's lots of redundancies. I'm not sure if there's false information also, but I changed what I saw. Apparently someone thought Castiel really did become God, even though we know very well he didn't, he just mutated himself. People do edit as they get info, but they should remember to keep opinions out of it. Otherwise, no one will take this wikia seriously!

Vashtari 06:47, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Monster reclass

Hello, I'm writing on two things, first I've been thinking, I may have made a mistake with the Siren's classification, after all it is a pretty strong monster, it is the only monster that posses mind control (other than eve) and it can only be killed, by someone under her spell, so what do you say, do you think it qualifys for it to be moved up a level.

The second thing, is this suposed plot about to more archangels, I'm just surprised, I mean that can't be true right? how can there be any more archangels? I mean I know in the lore there are up to seven archangels depending on who's law your reading, but surely if they did exist they would have played some role in the series by now right? And if Raphael really had two other archangels on his side, why didn't he whipe the floor with the oppersistion.

The Archangels are the most powerful type of creatures in the universe, only death and God are stronger than them, with one possible, unlikely but possible exception, and thats the four horseman, now before you say anything, about the four horsemen being a lot weaker, let me give my explination, I have a theory why the there is such a gap int powers of the first horseman (death) and the other three,

my theory is, at one point they all had much closer levels of power, but in the moden world, were famine is no longer so much of a problem, and less go hungry, where there are cures or treatments or vaccinations for most diseases and viruses, and where there are a lot of anti war groups and spirit (that last one maybe where my argument falls appart) they can't draw the nessary energy to maintain there powers, where as there are now more deaths than before (as the population is signifgantly higher) as such death does not have this problem.

Any way back to the point, how can they fight two archangels? Surely there far to powerful? What do you say? General MGD 109 18:00, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah okay, I'll give it a look. General MGD 109 20:09, April 14, 2012 (UTC)

Supernatural RP

Hi i was just wondering if you were at all interested in a Supernatural RP wiki. If not that's fine but I was just wondering. It hasn't been made so I don't think it counts as advertising. But please let me know with a reply if you would be so kind. Il lupo deve morire,per una propagazione della luce attraverso 14:30, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Chat

Want to chat?: The Twilight of Your Despair 22:41, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

Chat time?: The Twilight of Your Despair 01:39, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Hey

Wikia user 92.23.252.19 keeps putting things on Michael and Death's page. Saying that Death is only possibly stronger than Michael or that Michael could challenge him. While, it may not for 100% directly stated that Death is more powerful. He state many quotes that suggestion in a none secuplation that he is far more powerful than well anything minus God. Compares Dean to a pathogen, staying that the Flood, hurricanes and raising the dead that Lucifer made him do wasn't anything, that he was more powerful than Dean could process. He took Sam's Soul from the Cage in second and seemed like he wasn't affected in a battle between Lucifer and Michael. Also, while its still up to Debate he was going to kill Godsteil whom at least fall into the same class as Michael and Lucifer with a touch. Also, this time I have a source Eric Kriple in Supernatural: The Official Companion Season 5 Official Companion (non-fiction), paperback book states out of the series. That Death is as powerful as he calls himself.: The Twilight of Your Despair 16:24, April 27, 2012 (UTC)

On the clay

I just want to ask, what do you think the clay that the levithans were searching for is? There have been a lot of theories, some say its a weapon that can kill the levithans, but then why search for it? Why not leave it hidden, if it takes months for a man as rich and powerful as dick roman to find it, then how did he expect the few hunters who knew his races existance to find it? And the rest of humanity would be to stupid to look, plus no one other than them knew its existance.

Others have said it is the clay god used to create man, but Dick states he had it a long time ago, and the levithans were locked up before man was created, so theres no chance he could possibly have had it.

Others still have said, it is the clay that god crafted the levithans themselfs from, and without it they can't reproduce, but why would you create a race that can't repopulate on your own? And there are already hundreds of levithans, surely creating more would just mean food being used up quicker, so how is creating more a good idea?

Even more have said its a prophacy that only Kevin could read, but if the levithans are older than man, then there older than prophets, so why write a prophecy, for a species that doesn't even exist yet? Surely God could do it later, and if it is about the Levithans why give it to them?

So now I've picked holes in all the theory's I want to know, what do you think? General MGD 109 22:06, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Here can you join me on chat, I want to ask you a few things. General MGD 109 18:15, May 2, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, can you join me on chat, that is if your still here. General MGD 109 20:14, May 7, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I was wondering how do you create a poll blog, because I would like to create on to put this Phoenix monster or not thing to bed, as I have now been completely convinced it is, but I can't change it based on my own opoin, it needs the majority to agree, so could you tell me how to do it please.

By the way Its nice to see you again, I was starting to wonder what had happened to you, when we get the time, we have to talk. General MGD 109 19:44, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

looks like I missed you today, I'll try again again tommorrow. General MGD 109 22:26, May 11, 2012 (UTC)

I knew it. *hides face*

I feel like a weirdo, trying to talk to you here. Then again, you're more active here than on my home Wiki, and I'm more active there than I am here. Are you mad at me? Be honest. Because I honestly haven't seen you mad at me before. I really miss talking to you, whether you believe it or not. Reply soon (here, there, anywhere), TeamTaycob 02:07, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

whos stronger than death god or jesus christ? Micheal1720 23:27, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

yeah and if you think (im just saying) if you think jesus can be killed by jesse your mistaken im not saying you are just saying if you might one day not to be mean or rude and stuff anyways he cant because basicly theres differeneces between the two jesse aka anti-christ and jesus jesus christ get the differentece? im just saying my opinion thats all buddy. Micheal1720 23:47, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

No, nothing. Why?

And (I'd have to rewatch the episode to be 100% sure, but I'm fairly certain) Azazel made that comment after Dean said that he was from the future, and Azazel noted "there's only one thing I can think of with that kind of juice (or "....that can swing that" One or the other)". KevinTheDestoryer 23:48, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

I can do that. Give me about an hour.

Just a trivial matter

Hi, just a trivial matter, I was wondering if you had seen my knew blog, the one on opion's of monsters, I was wondering what you thought of it? General MGD 109 18:56, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

A few things

Hi, we need to talk, and not just about the last episode or the future, when your on, lets. But there are other things, firstly I think we should do away with the higher beings and deties catagory, and replace it with two catagories, HIgher beings, and and Deties.

I mean, there is to big a variation, some Deties are strong, some are quite weak, angels are stronger than certain gods, and yet they don't fall under the catagory, heck some demons, some monsters are stronger than the weakest gods, and yet they also don't fall under the catagory.

There is just to wide a range, wouldn't it make more sense to have one catagory for Pagan Deities and one for Higher beings (Perhaphs with the highest, like Eve and Atropos falling under both) what do you think? And we still need to talk. General MGD 109 23:24, May 19, 2012 (UTC)

Good News

I'm back much sooner than expected. We can continue your Jihad against unproffesionalism on the Wikia whenever you like. KevinTheDestoryer 19:20, May 22, 2012 (UTC)

Dude. I have a job. By the time I got home, you were offline. Sorry. I probably won't be online much this weekend at all. It would be much simpler if we set a time for, say, Monday morning ish.

Hello

How are doing Riex? OJOLara

Want to talk, I have a few things to chat about. General MGD 109 19:30, May 26, 2012 (UTC)

I work. Every night. Until Wednesday night....I should be free nearly all day wednesday. Does that work for you?

Much Obliged *tips Jack Daniels cowboy hat* I have been following this page for yonks and left a couple of anon posts so I figured I'd sign up and share :)

Hi! Remember me, huh? :)

Yo :) Ollraider 13:24, May 30, 2012 (UTC)

Whatwould you like to talk to me about?

Me mad at you? No I'm not mad at you, and i'm sorry if I gave that opion, its just I seem to keep missing you, thats why I haven't said anything in I while, as you wouldn't have been there at the time to get it. Sorry again, I ment to reply, but I was a bit busy, so I didn't jave time, then I sort of just kept puttin it off, and when I intended to do it yestarday I was unable, becasue I had a tornoment. Any way I'm here now. General MGD 109 19:16, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

And sorry about not acknowleding sooner, you see I'm writing a page, and I was so busy searching for sources, I guess I didn't notice the box telling me I had a knew message. General MGD 109 19:21, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, I was wondering if you except my explaination or not. General MGD 109 21:13, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Yes I do mean it, and really? I've only added on pages that fall under what is stated on the catorgory, signs, tools, paticipants and the event itself. Would you join me on chat? General MGD 109 21:25, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, all done, except Death and the four horseman page, as both are locked, so could you do those please? Any way, I hope you like it, but I have to go now, so I guess I'll have to wait to hear what you think. General MGD 109 23:26, June 1, 2012 (UTC)

Hello, if your still here, would you join me on chat, I want to go over the monster page. General MGD 109 20:33, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, sorry I missed you yestarday, can we talk today? Its only one thing, it won't take long. General MGD 109 18:35, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Don't worry

Don't worry, that you made a mistake, there is nothing wrong with that, I've got a near photographic memory, I have an uncle who has a true photographic memory, and we both still make mistakes from time to time, even if you haveo a eratic memory, then you would still make mistakes from time to time, its just part of being human, we all have to make mistakes, where not perfect, its are strive for perfection that makes life worth living.

So you made one mistake, so what, you've still created or atleast added greatly to most of the best pages on this wiki, you've solved many of the greatest problems on this wiki. If you were incapable you wouldn't be admin, and if you feel your so bad at it, then I guess your have to quit and pass your job to someone else, but truthful I feel your making a mountain the size of mount olympus out of mole hill. General MGD 109 20:05, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

I have answered, its above this statement. General MGD 109 20:11, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Hi, on the big bad page why put castiel as a villain? i mean i realise he is an antagonist in a sense but he's still an allie of sam and dean. and if he does qualify as a villain, why not let michael have a place as one as he also justifies his wrong actions with good intentions and is one of sam and deans most formidable recurring enemies? i just feel that if cas is considered a villain then so should michael as he is equally as powerful, arrogant and though he's just obeying his father, hes still willing to kill his brothers even when they surrender, just to prove himself a good son.31.53.226.53 11:33, June 10, 2012 (UTC)wikicontributor.

monster

Your right about the Phoenix, I guess I got a bit carried away adding catagories. On another note, it occurs to me, that the Monster page, needs a picture to be added to it, or even an information section, like on every other page, well I was wondering, what picture do you think should be added? General MGD 109 18:36, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Good idea, I'll see what I can find, by the way, I also like your pack leaders idea. General MGD 109 18:49, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Monster families?

I was wondering, for monster groups, do you count monster families? As several monsters have been known to live with families (Djinn, Changelings and kitsune) So do they count, or are groups strickly none family? General MGD 109 20:26, June 13, 2012 (UTC)

No you misunderstand me, I don't mean are they related, I ment, do monsters which live and/or work/hunt with there families count as monsters who live in groups? General MGD 109 17:35, June 14, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, so your most recent change says that Death needed his ring plus the other 3 just to open Lucifer's Cage. There has been no indication that he needed the rings or that he even had the other 3 rings in his possession. As far as we know Dean still has the rings and he figured Death alone was strong enough to jailbreak it without the rings.

Some Help

hey boss, this is normally not my stile but as i have spent about 2 hours working on it, could you help me on this one? Damon-Balthazar-Salvatore 23:09, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Here's the thing i've been trying to rename this page to the one that is used on the series (The Colt) cause i think it i'll be the right thing, but when i try to rename it i get this message:

The page could not be moved: a page of that name already exists, or the name you have chosen is not valid. Please choose another name, or ask an administrator to help you with the move.
Please do not manually move the article by copying and pasting it; the page history must be moved along with the article text.

Season 8 Banner HD

Hi, since ur an admin i thought i might come to you with this. I recently thought to myself how much cooler that banner would look if only it wasn't so small and pixelated...then it occured to me that the bg looked familiar and i realized i had it as a wallpaper in 1920x1080, so I made an HD banner for season 8. I made one set then realized an error(after i uploaded them here stupidly) so i updated them, also adding shades with red eyes(purgatory creatures). So iv'e changed the banner on the season 8 page, but cant change the homepage one since im not an admin. Would you do it? the best ones to do are the blue or orange ones. ignore the banners without red eyed creatures, since they have a few issues and graphicall inconcistincies. Winchester7314 01:15, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

It has been a while lol, Thanks, what I was wondering was if you could change the banner on the homepage slide, since it's the pixelated one. If you could that'd be great, i can't since im not an admin. Winchester7314 01:26, June 17, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I must have missed something

Sorry I must have missed something, what have I accepted?

Any way, what do you mean your not the proper person to ask? Your the Admin, you added the topic, and you very knowledgable on the show, after all your third occupation is being right. So whats your answer, do they count or not?

And if you insist on saying you shouldn't be asked, then who should I ask? General MGD 109 19:19, June 20, 2012 (UTC)

Do monsters, that live and hunt with there family, count as monsters who live in groups? Thats what I want to know.

And I still don't know what I have accepted. General MGD 109 18:08, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Yo

First off, this is not a bitch out message or anything of that nature so don't think that. But besides, being very busy selling houses I stopped coming here. First, off I keep seeing speculation on articles like Castiel when he was aka Godstiel and things like Omnipotence. I am not saying you put any, just saying I keep seeing it. Like with Castiel, regardless and neither you or I can confirm whom was stronger Godstiel or Michael I at least make it sound possible either way. Like you keep saying he said he needed to keep Michael and or Lucifer in the cage (btw I keep rewatching that episode and I keep hearing AND WE NEED TO KEEP MICHAEL AND LUCIFER"S CAGE, not Michael in Lucifer. I guees with Misha's voice it sounds like in and not and.) But Castiel said he would do away with Hell a spiritual world/realm/plane. Even Michael couldn't or wouldn't to me more likely didn't destroy Hell to get to Lucifer, while Castiel said he could just destroy it. And if the theories are true spiritual worlds like Heaven, Hell, Purgatory etc are worlds without end meaning can hold endless amounts of whatever or can go on forever or both. Like their mini universe on to themselves really. But I still leave up to that its possible any of the Archangels could have done this.

It's mostly the same, on Omnipotence. I hate others use the smallest or one word or piece of evidence to justify their religions beliefs about Michael, Lucifer, Death, God etc and call it fact. If the series writes wanted at a latter date for Death to be killable as an example, than despite our own view should just write the articles as its shown in the series or in published confirmed places like books or in interviews, and not find ways to jusify our own bias views and if your a person your bias thats just a fact of life even I am bias in opinion like anyone. And no that wasn't a passive shot at you just a generalization. I keep my own catholic view out of my work. All, I am saying is that before you rewrite anything I write or just agree with someone else just cause their view is similar or the same to yours. Remember that I RARELY ever use opinion on things like who would win or lose in a fight, origins, powers and how they used etc.

P.S. I thought something about Demons. Is it POSSIBLE that some demons can read minds of any human and some can only read minds if their like possessing someone. Like in Repo Man, when Jeremy brought the demon back and it took another vessal. He like either read his mind or at least parts of his soul for any evil or murdeous intent.: The Twilight of Your Despair 01:38, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

P.S.S. I am NOT bitching at you I just think as head admin you should be the one I tell this too and not some other user. Just you should know by now I at least try my best to make anything I edit as bias free as possible, while other all but say, umm this show is based of Judeo-Christian belief so Death being as Old or older than God or able to reap him in ANYWAY is false so lets just say he is wrong. That stuff makes me not want to come here. This is an information wikia not a fanfiction wikia.: The Twilight of Your Despair 01:38, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

Yes finally someone who agrees wit me, i hate it when people try to add their "personal beliefs or fanfic" Winchester7314 01:56, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

No, I mean both the transcript and when I watch the episode I hear Michael and Lucifer's cage not in Lucifer's cage. Also, my whole point was that Castiel with the souls may or may not be stronger than Michael. Yes, that quote regardless of the in or and part could imply fear. But he said right before that he could do away with Hell entirely an entire spiritual realm. Now that could mean, destroy and its possible the Archangels could destroy it too or abandon it like an old building, who knows. My point its until their is some 100% proof evidence and I mean real evidence can we agree to not directly write that he was stronger or weaker than them. Also under P.S my theory on demons telepathy?: The Twilight of Your Despair 02:49, June 21, 2012 (UTC)

STOP IT

Seriously, just stop it. This is not funny. Not in the least bit. I know you're pissed off that I keep making modifications to your edits, but guess what? I make modifications to other people's edits too and they don't throw temper tantrums. So STOP IT. NOW. -- MisterRandom2 19:38, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

How can we help with Soul Reading if its locked? OriginalVisit   20:13,6/22/2012  -- OriginalVisit   20:13,6/22/2012  20:13, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, Will it the lock be lifted or, could you not block him for like an hour or 5 minuets till its finished? OriginalVisit   20:19,6/22/2012 

Soul reading

Thats, quite funny what you put on the Soul Reading Page; as i ........ dont know how to write properly; LMAO OriginalVisit   20:39,6/22/2012 

Ha ha ha ha ha. Yeaaaaaaaaah. Real funny. -- MisterRandom2 20:49, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

I thought it was too OriginalVisit   20:50,6/22/2012 

You do realize that this is little more than just being a bully? -- MisterRandom2 20:59, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

It's not bullying and it would be fine if you'd Leave THE Bloody page alone! OriginalVisit   21:01,6/22/2012 

Yeah it is. It's deliberately singling a person out by name and leaving a taunting message. It IS bullying. And it is NOT cool. -- MisterRandom2 21:05, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

You're not cool but OriginalVisit   21:17,6/22/2012 

Idea Do tell

Will do OriginalVisit   20:59,6/22/2012 

Thank you

I'm glad we've managed to work out our differences. Let's put all this ugly business behind us for good. I really like this site, and enjoy coming here. And I do actually think you've done a good job running this place. Thank you. -- MisterRandom2 23:50, June 22, 2012 (UTC)

Who is the oldest angel?

Hi, ImperiexSeed, I am confused on whether Micheal or Metatron is the oldest angel. According to Castiel, Metatron wrote the Word of God while creation was being formed. In addition, Lucifer stated the Colt can not kill five things in all of creation which me gave the impression the archangels were in turn part of creation. So does that not mean Meratron is older than Micheal as he seems to have existed prior to creation? I would really appreciate if you could clear up my confusion. 76.212.195.160 21:42, June 23, 2012 (UTC)

Wiki

Hey, You seem to have a account on here i was woundering how i could get an account here Could you please help,I couldn't seem to find the Sign up button i found the login one but i don't have an account could you link me to where i can sign up Thanks, OriginalVisit  23:18,6/23/2012 

Could you or not? OriginalVisit  19:03,6/24/2012 

Re:Bureaucrat rights request

Hey ImperiexSeed, since you have shown sustained involvement and have proven responsible in your use of admin tools, I am willing to grant this request. There isn't a system for selecting administrators/bureaucrats on this Wiki yet, so this means you will have to exercise judgment in sysopping other users. Please do not give someone administrator rights simply because you enjoy their company, you are good friends with them, etc. Ensure that they are the sort who have shown a genuine interest in helping the Wiki and not for ulterior motives.

The tools are not meant to be freely given out, because a user with the wrong intentions could do a lot of damage to the Wiki with them. That being said, they should be readily given to those who can be trusted. If you are willing to abide by the above, simply state as such on my talkpage, and I will grant the rights to your account. Feel free to ask if you have any questions. Cheers. :) Calebchiam ^Talk 10:08, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, that was a bit hasty on my part. I know I've hardly been around here much, heck, I was only made bureaucrat because of my work on other Wikis and because I knew how Wikis are meant to function (policies, community, and all). I have taken a gander through the logs and some talkpages, and I see some incidences of edit-warring, using your status to lord over other users, using blocking for personal vendettas, etc. (Blocking for such a blog comment is overkill.) Please remember that the Wiki is a collaborative work, and the opinions of all editors are equal. You may be an admin, but that does not give you the ultimate say on all matters on the Wiki. A regular user like MisterRandom2 has as much say as you do. You were given the tools to protect and help the Wiki, not to rule it. At this point of time, you still seem to need some more time to get used to your role as a sysop, so I will refrain from giving you bureaucrat rights for now (you may request for them in the future, if you feel that you are ready), especially since the tools are even more dangerous than sysop tools if used for the wrong intentions. As for the user you were hoping to promote, do direct me to him, and I will grant him the tools if he seems trustworthy. Thanks. Calebchiam ^Talk 10:25, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Bureaucrat rights are not for you to demand. If you have proven trustworthy, you will be trusted with them but in no way are they earned by your hard work.

A few points:

• I gave you your admin rights, not Thesilentpoethosea. I also don't see what procedure you are referring to. You requested them from me here.
• I don't have much to say about your issues with MisterRandom2 and I don't care for any of this blame-shifting. As far as I can see, both of you may have been at fault, but that does not excuse your behaviour in any way.
• I never said 2 years, but it does not matter. Bureaucrat rights are not a reward for your hard work, the Wiki only trusts a user with tools if they have proven trustworthy so that they can help the Wiki to a greater extent. It is not for you to demand them belligerently, and I would expect a sysop of this community to behave better than this.
• If I was not mistaken, you asked for the tools so that a trustworthy user could be granted admin rights. This is for the greater good of the community, not for you alone. So I am wondering why you refuse to provide his username? Nevertheless, I am sure he/she will contact me if he sees a need to, so suit yourself.

So no, I will not grant you bureaucrat rights for now, although maybe in the near future. (Please do not rudely demand for them again.) Let's be mature about this, thanks. Calebchiam ^Talk 05:58, June 29, 2012 (UTC)