User talk:Zane T 69

Welcome
Hi, welcome to ! Thanks for your edit to the Andrew Gallagher page. Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help you with anything! Also note that we are in the process of converting articles written in the present tense to the past tense. So you are welcome to edit any such article you come across. Once again, Welcome! Twilight Despair 5 (talk) 17:35, May 23, 2016 (UTC)

He states God is A not The supremely powerful entity. That means among the beings of SPN he is one the most powerful, not the most powerful. However some of the powers he gave God isn't true. Also God in SPN is based of the Christian God, but the writes made him more human and not as powerful but I agree, he is trying to draw more parallels to the real-life image of God.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 17:48, June 1, 2016 (UTC)

So your saying God isn't of the same class of supremacy as Amara or Death? That's what I understand by saying supremely. It means highest of something, not omnipotent. But don't need my permission to talk to him.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 18:11, June 1, 2016 (UTC)

Amara and God are equals, SHE even said so. She might be overall stronger buy still. And yes Supremely can mean highest of something. But it CAN be used to describe all the members of an equal standing. Like the Supreme Court, all of them have Supremacy compared to the lower ones. No being in SPN is almighty, but at least the three strongest are within the same class of supremacy. And that's all I'll say on that matter.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 18:31, June 1, 2016 (UTC)

Ok, I can't do anything this weekend. Message all the admins, if they don't message back by Friday I'll make a decision.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 02:12, June 12, 2016 (UTC)

I honestly didn't think that anonymous user should be reported, but oh well also thank you for telling me information about reporting since I'm quite new and I will look into the wiki improvement blog :).MichaelTheDragon (talk) 02:13, June 16, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Vandal
Thank you for your vigilance. A temporary ban (I can't do longer than 3 days as it has not continued so far) has been placed. FTWinchester (talk) 13:19, June 18, 2016 (UTC)

Anonymous was temporarily blocked. Thank you. FTWinchester (talk) 17:30, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

Said anon ony did it once and has never followed up 3 days after, I can really only issue a warning. FTWinchester (talk) 22:17, July 2, 2016 (UTC)

Nomination page
The content is fine, but we need to use the proper link/page. I'm working on it now. Give me a few minutes. FTWinchester (talk) 23:21, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

Here  is your new rfa page. There are a two questions I personally wanted you to expound a bit more, if you don't mind. Please don't take it personally. It's just due process. Good luck! FTWinchester (talk) 23:29, June 19, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Nomination
It's been almost a week since your rfa. No one has voiced opposition so far, so soft consensus (i.e., silence) may be invoked. However, we are at a roadblock since neither TD5 nor I are beaurocrats. I don't think it's within our power to grant you adminship even if we wanted to. I'll try to leave Caleb a message. He usually logs in a few days after I message him. Hopefully, we'll get things going as soon as possible. If worse comes to worst, we would have to contact higher wikia powers to step in and solve the stand still as Caleb is the last known active beaurocrat I've known or contacted, even, since I joined here. FTWinchester (talk) 17:36, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

I don't really want to actively pursue being a bcrat but if the community deems it absolutely necessary, then I shall reconsider. Anyway, let's give Caleb 3 days to respond, and if not, we'll go higher up the hierarchy just to follow procedure. I know he hasn't been active for a while but I wouldn't want us to be questioned for not trying at the very least. FTWinchester (talk) 17:50, June 25, 2016 (UTC)

There, Caleb is back for the time being. I would recommend you to try to convince more members to weigh in on your rfa as that would support your case better if they side with you. It doesn't look too good that only I and TD5 have voiced support. I mean, like I said, sofr consensus may be invoked, but your case will be stronger with actual inputs in the rfa. Good luck! FTWinchester (talk) 11:44, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

Reminder: Your rfa ends tomorrow. If you have anything else to add on to your answers or if you have more contributors to convince to weigh in, now would be the time. Again, best of luck! FTWinchester (talk) 22:26, July 2, 2016 (UTC)

Like I said, their silence could be interpreted as soft consensus. You have no explicit contradictions. I think your rfa should push through. Caleb told me he will be logging in once the rfa ends to review and to make sure everything is in order. Once there are no more concerns, he will message you and give you your additional powers, privileges and responsibilities. I will also message him tonight so he would remember tomorrow. Just to be sure. FTWinchester (talk) 23:09, July 2, 2016 (UTC)

Nomination
Well, I'll vote but I don't have an exact link of the nomination page of yours. SeraphLucifer (talk) 15:36, June 26, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

RFA
I'd rather not get involved, one way or another. EDIT: If I wanted to influence wiki policy, I'd become an admin myself.

Orion ( T - B -C) 15:43, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

That's what they keep telling me.

Orion ( T - B -C) 15:49, June 26, 2016 (UTC)

The power conjuration should be changed to creation. Conjuration summons beings or objects out of nothing via a spell. While creation is the ability to create virtually anything from nothing on a near-infinite to infinite scale via ones own power. Please change.

Conjuration can be synonymous with creation. Also who is this person advertising a number?&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 23:22, July 1, 2016 (UTC)

Adminship
Congratulations on your successful RfA!

You can now do the following:


 * Edit and move fully protected pages
 * Delete, restore, and view deleted revisions of pages and images
 * Protect pages from edits, moves, or creation by non-sysops
 * Block and unblock users and IP addresses and ranges
 * Edit the interface pages in the MediaWiki: namespace
 * View Special:Unwatchedpages

If you have any questions, just ask. In response to your message, an 'evil emperor' scenario seems unlikely - I'd desysop you before you got to do too much damage. My concern lies with the less obvious facets: handing out unnecessarily severe blocks, being unreasonable when encountering users who disagree with you (and there will be plenty, I'm sure.) Consider it a leap of faith on my part as well, I hope you do well with these extra tools. Be sure to brush up on our policies.

If you wish to improve your editing and knowledge of Wiki markup, I recommend you read through this simple guide from my home Wiki. Other stuff you will have to learn by doing. You should also go to Special:Preferences -> Editing Tab -> and set your preferred editor to 'Source Editor' if you haven't already. Cheers. Calebchiam Talk 03:29, July 3, 2016 (UTC)

Re:First issue
If I'm not mistaken, this involves editing certain Mediawiki header pages to reflect the needed. Perhaps one of the other admins might be more familiar with this; it's outside my expertise at the moment. The admin noticeboard sounds reasonable. You can give it a go and create one at "Supernatural Wiki:Admin Noticeboard". Cheers. Calebchiam Talk 04:18, July 3, 2016 (UTC)
 * From experimenting with MediaWiki:Wiki-navigation, it seems that there's a limit to the number of tabs we can create (four, actually.) This is probably a changeable configuration set by a different MediaWiki page. Regarding the changes you are making, take note that 'Staff' is a termed reserved for Wikia Staff, so let's use 'Administrators' or 'Admins' instead, cheers. Calebchiam Talk 04:30, July 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * Congratulations on your adminship. It seems Caleb has already answered your question. As for the difficulty, yes. I ran into similar problems in the past. Some things I would like to do would be severely limited by my ability to code. You could study basics, though. That's what I did for a bit and relied on trial and error. FTWinchester (talk) 08:21, July 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * Oh and by the way, if in case you are unable to add a link to admins on the header, the new community page does feature a link to a list of admins, so there's that. It's not outright visible but at least it's added accessibility. May your adminship be true and just. FTWinchester (talk) 08:27, July 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * Could you point me to that discussion? I never heard about photos exclusively used on user pages to be forbidden, unless they are offensive, misleading, or something of the likes. FTWinchester (talk) 21:57, July 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * I think we need a better context into that. By the looks of it, there were a number of photos in question. The actual subject of the photos may also literally mean personal as in featuring photos of the contributor. We've had several editors with one or two photos in their user pages and they never received warnings like that. FTWinchester (talk) 22:06, July 3, 2016 (UTC)


 * You certainly could, but keep in mind that it's a low-benefit activity in the sense that while we are ensuring a principle is followed, there may be other more urgent tasks you may wish to focus on instead. Cheers. Calebchiam Talk 15:14, July 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * For technical coding matters beyond your expertise, you can try the active users or Wikia Staff on Community Central. They're usually more than happy to help. Calebchiam Talk 01:01, July 6, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Photos
Oh yeah I would say definitely as they are very offensive and have no relevance to Supernatural. Check the activity of the users. If they are still fairly active, I'd make the ban more severe for more gravity. FTWinchester (talk) 16:49, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

I think that should suffice for now. FTWinchester (talk) 17:02, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

Do a screencap if you like. But generally other admins would have access to previously deleted images if they really need to investigate. Don't forget to sign your comment on Salvatore's page. FTWinchester (talk) 17:05, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Talk Page content
As much as I hate the information this user put in her talk page, deleting any content from a talk page is not allowed as it prevents future reviews and investigations. Please rollback/undo your deletion and then re-write your warning. Thank you. FTWinchester (talk) 23:03, July 4, 2016 (UTC)

RE: Reverted edit
Because of this.

Orion ( T - B -C) 20:33, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

You don't see the ton of excess spaces in the difference between edits?

Orion ( T - B -C) 20:41, July 13, 2016 (UTC)

Title/Alias
Titles are nicknames used by yourself or other people. In order to be a title or alias, the nickname should've been used more than once. Kevin Solo, Special K... No characters were using this nicks. Only once. That does not make it a nickname. Henry Called Dean, Alpha Male Monkey Friend, is it really a title/alias? SeraphLucifer (talk) 15:53, July 16, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

I think it is fine, what do you think of Wiki Navigation? I updated it recently and I'll create a new section named community, there I will put Admin Notice Board, Policies and Admins of the Wikia (active ones) SeraphLucifer (talk) 16:03, July 16, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

I updated the Navigation again, what do you think? SeraphLucifer (talk) 16:34, July 16, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Ah, I actually didn't delete that section, something wrong occured I guess. I'll fix it. SeraphLucifer (talk) 16:47, July 16, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

I unite Characters and Seasons on Supernatural window, so that I could create a section for Spells and Objects, however the name for that section was too long and it didn't accept to publish as it, so I had to rename it to Artifacts. Any other thoughts? SeraphLucifer (talk) 16:59, July 16, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Rollbacks
Well, rollbacks are only granted to admins as I know, they do not grant rollbacks to other users. Tbh, don't have a much information about this topic. SeraphLucifer (talk) 08:10, July 18, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer
 * Just returned from my trip and noticed this message. To clarify, rollback is given to registered users who request it for reverting vandalism. There aren't any requirements that need to be met apart from that the user account should not be newly-created and should have a few edits on it. Cheers. Calebchiam Talk 14:00, July 20, 2016 (UTC)
 * Yes, if they are looking for rollback tools, you may direct them to me. Calebchiam Talk 15:21, August 5, 2016 (UTC)

Re: uploaded photos
hello, i fully intended to use all of the images i uploaded when i uploaded them. sorry about that. i will mark the ones i haven't placed yet and be more careful in the future. thanks.Reka12452 (talk) 06:37, August 3, 2016 (UTC)

hi - you can delete it if you want.Reka12452 (talk) 03:42, September 14, 2016 (UTC)

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First of all, think whatever the hell you want of me, I don’t care but I’ll make this clear and simple, mocking and insensitive? Yes, but in my country that kind of stuff (the memes even as inappropriate as theu are) makes us laugh, relieve our stress, second: Like you point out, it was years ago, I was a different person back then, now on the “years to remove them or stop uploading” that’s total bs on you since: Third of all, let’s go directly here “ Blocking When it comes to vandalism, always look for malicious intent. Remember that not everyone knows how to edit Wikis, they may experiment and add nonsense text or blank a page completely by accident. For an act to be considered vandalism, there are two criteria that need to be fulfilled: (1) the act itself defaces the page, (2) the act itself was fully intended to deface the page - these are two very different things. Blocking should only be done when malicious intent has been relatively ascertained, e.g. one page blanked is not enough, but three in a row you can safely assume something is up. For first-time acts of vandalism, after fixing the vandalism, the user should be given either a warning or a 1-3 day block For IP addresses: Infinite blocks should never be given out to IP addresses because: (1) IP addresses can change, so you might prevent a future person who's visiting the Wiki for the first time from editing (2) No one is quite that irredeemable
 * Calebchian asked me to stop uploading and I did that, no more uploading of non Supernatural related media, don’t believe me? Check my uploaded media.
 * He said he would delete them and I would’ve remove them but have any of you considered we all have other things to do with our lives than sit on a computer, phones, tables, other devices and check the wikia? Don’t look like it on your end which by the way, I would’ve gladly removed them if someone (regular user, admin whatever) had asked me to like say a message on my wall with something basic like “Hey those pictures are inappropriate” or something like that and wanna know? I would’ve removed them from my page since /I/ a regular user can only upload pictures, not delete them, that’s on you with your admin superpowers to delete them.
 * First-time - Give the user a warning or a 1-3 day block
 * Second-time vandalism after having been blocked - 3-day - 1-week block.
 * Serial offenders - 1-week to 1-month blocks.

For users: How to resolve disputes Going on that, this incident is my 1st block on the Supernatural wikia (1st offense) and as pointed out on the blocking policy, I deserved a warning and the respective 1 – 3 day block so why the 1 month block eh? Feels like abuse of power if you ask me for a 1st offence and also, read all of these ( http://supernatural.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Policies ) and there’s nothing on the pictures department so shame on you and the admins for not updating the policies.
 * Follow the above. Though in the case of established users who have a history of good edits, it should raise an alarm that perhaps the user has been hacked. For new (and possibly junk) accounts, those accounts can be given an infinite block if it is obvious that the account was created simply to wreak damage on the Wiki articles (i.e. blatant vandalism).
 * Usually, blocking of established users happens for reasons detailed in the next section.
 * Individuals - People are wired differently, and are raised in a whole host of backgrounds to you have no access to. So try, first of all, to be patient and understanding. If you see bullying behaviour, call them out on it firmly and calmly, while providing evidence for your claims. In serious cases, an admin will look into whether the user deserves a block. Milder cases can be addressed by leaving a gentle note on the user's talk page.
 * Content - For disputes about content in articles, there is a 3RR (three-revert rule) hard limit to prevent edit-warring. Any users that have reverted an article three times or more over legitimate content disputes (i.e. vandalism excluded) will be blocked. The idea is that in a legitimate dispute (even if you are certain that you are right), you should take the discussion to the article's talk page and hash it out there, rather than communicate over a series of edit summaries - which is not a talkspace users can properly follow. This also allows other users to weigh in. “

If that’s the way you, as an admin and a person solve your problem (not bother asking or talk a solution out before taking a drastic action), then I don’t want anything to do with you in any single way so congrats, not only you lost the respect I could have for you, but also means I got no reason at all to take you seriously, and just so it’s known, from this point onwards, if there’s even any, I’ll only answer to other admins. This message might as well be my last “contribution” to the wikia so consider me officially either retired or inactive that’s up to me to know only if I should bother coming back. Communication, people skills, learn some of those kindly would you for an hypothetical next time?

Think as you will of me as a person whatever feel free to judge me but I ain’t taking bs from anyone and that block? Total bs, why? Lack of communication, was a message on my wall to remove the pictures so hard for you or someone else to do? No, you went full length and blocked me so congratulations, you just loosed any kind of respect I could’ve had for you as an admin and also congratulations, the Supernatural wikia has lost a working/dedicated member (me, not so much active but I have contributed with making pages and stuff) of it’s community cause of whatever that block was intended for for simple lack of communication, you know for just being a new admin, you certainly started with the wrong foot, take this message as you will, constructive criticism, hate, whatever, I’m speaking my mind so take it as you will, so kindly do me a solid and don't bother me anymore, have a good day/afternoon/night. Damon-Balthazar-Salvatore (talk) 17:11, August 4, 2016 (UTC)

image deletion
hi. you informed me  that some images i uploaded should either be posted or "marked for deletion." i don't know what that process entails. please let me know? thanksReka12452 (talk) 19:30, August 8, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
Yeah, I'll shoot over a request. Thanks for telling me Gabriel456 (talk) 14:40, August 12, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Rollback
Yeah, he is doing great job and editing well. Gabriel, Blaziken, Kajune and him are the best editors currently. SeraphLucifer (talk) 22:49, August 18, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Hi- thanks for the info.Reka12452 (talk) 17:59, August 19, 2016 (UTC)

Garth?
The Season 12 page has DJ Qualls/Garth listed as a supporting character. I can't seem to find any article or website on that confirms this. Do you know where the info came from?Rafe Adler 14:37, August 21, 2016 (UTC)

Blocking
Hey Zane, hope you're doing fine... When I block an user, I don't really write reasons when they are anon editors, do you think must I? SeraphLucifer (talk) 18:33, August 31, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Pages
Eh, sorry for the excessive number of pages, such as God's mug, God's autobiography, warehouse and others. I don't know if these are necessary, but I do try to help make this website informative. Thank you for your various approvals of my edits. Thank you. Kajune (talk) 20:33, September 1, 2016 (UTC)

Leticia Gore
I fixed the problem. Someone just needs to delete "Leticia Gore Actress". Kajune (talk) 15:32, September 2, 2016 (UTC)

I don't really know what those are, and I'm not even sure how long I'll stay here. I'll think about it, maybe. Right now, I'm more concerned with how the wikia is going to be once season 12 comes out. Kajune (talk) 15:41, September 2, 2016 (UTC)

I'm more concerned about edit wars, false information, disregard for old information, stuff like that, which I believe, usually happens when more users become active. I'm probably thinking too hard, but, whatever happens, I doubt I can't handle it. It's just a worry. As for the link you gave me, I'll check it out soon. Kajune (talk) 15:55, September 2, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Kajune (talk) 16:09, September 2, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Templates
Hey Zane, sorry for responding late, I think these templates ain't necessary. SeraphLucifer (talk) 19:12, September 12, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Re:Blocking
Has he acknowledged your messages? It could be that he simply hasn't read them or is confused about what the Wiki is for, but regardless, a 3-day block after the warnings you gave should be fine, keeping in mind that uploading fanon videos isn't exactly an act of malicious intent anyway. Cheers. Calebchiam Talk 01:12, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Thanks
appreciate the note, Zane! :) Reka12452 (talk) 04:28, September 16, 2016 (UTC)

Re: weakness
I've weighed in on the blog page. Thanks for the heads up. FTWinchester (talk) 23:59, September 24, 2016 (UTC)

SPN Reviews
I have a friend on the Arrowverse wikia who posts blogs on the wiki that are reviews for episodes of the shows and I gave him the idea of doing Supernatural reviews, but he wants to know if the wikia would allow that? Would it be ok for him to post his review blogs here on this wiki? Supernatural reviews I mean not Arrowverse reviews.Rafe Adler (talk) 03:51, September 27, 2016 (UTC)

Greetings from Vanguard: Portable Infoboxes
Hey, Zane!

I noticed you are one of the active admins on the Supernatural Wiki, so I'm leaving this message to notify you of Fandom's portability efforts and how Vanguard can help improve your wiki. :)

Please see my blog post here if you are interested in improving your community's infoboxes - User blog:Monochromatic Bunny/Greetings from Vanguard: Portable Infoboxes.

Thanks! —Monochromatic Bunny | ☎ 18:45, September 30, 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks for heads-up. Looks fine to me, and I've seen it on some other Wikis as well. Calebchiam Talk 15:51, October 2, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Pressing Matters
Hey Zane, hope your doing fine. Now lets get to topic: I think the current status of the Wiki is fine, people visit a lot. Do you have any other things on your mind? SeraphLucifer (talk) 18:48, October 4, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer
 * What is the reload speed of your PC on Sam and Dean pages? Mine is same as other pages. I talked about that w/Kajune and currently there weren't any problems with it. If it starts to slow down, we can move contents to other sections/pages. Currently I guess it ain't necessary. What do you think about it?
 * Well, nobody uses Admin Noticeboard currently, but in the future we might need it but currently the wiki doesn't have problems except trollers sometimes.
 * Yes, I think that Kajune, Rafe, Gabriel456 and Reka could be good discussion mods. There are other good users but these people are the most active. It'd be good if we have Dis. Mods.
 * Well, we can promote them if they wanted to. I'll ask them.
 * It'd be good to develop Noticeboard.  SeraphLucifer (talk) 19:26, October 4, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Thank you :) Gabriel456 (talk) 14:26, October 5, 2016 (UTC)

The Time has come
Don't you think it is been too long to upload a profile pic for you account? I mean it's your choice but I'd like too see your choice of pp. SeraphLucifer (talk) 16:17, October 5, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

I liked it. From SW Rebels right? SeraphLucifer (talk) 21:03, October 5, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Re:Shared images
If by export, you mean download and re-upload onto their Wiki, it's a cumbersome but doable process. The images uploaded to Wikia are under a Creative Commons license as it is, so there's no issue with sharing the images and this in-built Wikia feature will be much easier to implement for them. Calebchiam Talk 00:36, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

Discussions Moderator
So basically, I get to determine what blogs, comments, replies and discussions should be kept and not? Kajune (talk) 05:29, October 7, 2016 (UTC)

Omnipotence Page
Hey Zane, I restricted that page since it constantly gets false editing and change of the order by anon users. It'd be not a problem if you unlock it. SeraphLucifer (talk) 20:16, October 9, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Re
Okay, I just wanted the permission of someone I thought was an Admin. On other Wikis they can get real fussy about that sort of stuff. See my work on the Major Crimes Wiki. At least I settled that dispute. However, because it was non-canon I wasn't sure if I could make a page like that.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 18:12, October 13, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Help
Hey Zane, you needed a help for a ban situation, sorry for late response. Did you fixed it? SeraphLucifer (talk) 14:19, October 14, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Re:Blocking
I haven't found a solution either. I suggest we leave it alone for now and raise it to Staff only if it really does prevent a user from editing (the user would presumably let us know on his/her talkpage.) Calebchiam Talk 04:34, October 16, 2016 (UTC)

Re:Blogs
Hey Zane, I think that's a great idea, thanks for asking. SeraphLucifer (talk) 20:23, October 17, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Problem
Hey Zane, I realized something. With the new infoboxes, a problem occured. We cannot display more than 1 image, what should we do? Here's an example. The gif that shows their grace form cannot be presented. SeraphLucifer (talk) 09:07, October 18, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Currently, I did tabber to fix the problem. SeraphLucifer (talk) 10:48, October 18, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Protection
These days, the wiki activity is also increasing. Better to protect it. Also we should be more active and I'll make some changes through the main page. SeraphLucifer (talk) 15:50, October 21, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Sincerely, you are being a great admin. I was expecting much less but turns out to be your doing your job perfectly. Proud of ya. SeraphLucifer (talk) 16:00, October 21, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Updates
Hey Zane, I updated the polls, do you think they are OK? Also what else should we renew about the main page? By the way what are we going to do about the background? SeraphLucifer (talk) 20:10, October 21, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Re:Following Pages
Hey Zane, I'd like to apologize since I couldn't see the message you wrote. For unknown reason I didn't get the notifications... I'll check them today. SeraphLucifer (talk) 05:00, October 24, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Chat
Well, its 18.15 (6.15 pm) here at the moment and I'll be avaiable after 22.00 (10.00 pm). SeraphLucifer (talk) 15:16, October 24, 2016 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

I really don't know what idea to give, unfortunately. I just get annoyed whenever someone refuses to put the apostrophe stuff around the brackets but instead does the whole |  thing instead, which ironically takes more effort.It's just a personal irk, I've been trying not to be too angry about it like I used to.

Sorry. Gabriel456 (talk) 18:36, October 24, 2016 (UTC)