Talk:Magda Peterson

Special Child
There's nothing to suggest that Magda is a Special Child beyond The Road So Far. That seemed more to introduce the concept of psychics to me and if she was a Special Child, no doubt someone would've said something about that during the episode.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 05:35, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Another thing to suggest is her getting headaches, just like Sammy used to. He even tells her himself what she is. Plus the special children are psychics.--The Inner Hate (talk) 10:44, November 3, 2016 (UTC)

Special Children are people whose powers come from Azazel's blood. Although Azazel might have fed Magda blood as well, it's still speculation. Magda is also the first young psychic we've encountered, so we don't really know what psychics go through when they develop their powers. Kajune (talk) 06:09, November 4, 2016 (UTC)


 * Its really just speculation because she was obviously psychic but she could just be a natural psychic as well. Sam said he had powers like Magda once which is true but that just referred to his psychic abilities, not necessarily his Special Child status. Its speculation to list her as a Special Child so she shouldn't be.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 06:30, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Affiliation
Someone added Magda to the "Season 12 Villains" category. Does she really count? Kajune (talk) 06:10, November 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * No, I really don't think so. Its why I didn't list her when I created the page. Gail was the bad guy, poor Magda killing those two was an accident.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 06:30, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

I locked the page until further notice.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 18:33, November 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * Because I didn't agree with you on the Biokinesis thing??? Check out the other pages where characters are listed to have that ability. Also, the rewritten Telekinesis thing was done terribly.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 18:35, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

To avoid edit wars. I'll explain later.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 18:38, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Ok I'll make a much more detailed one later but for no. Telekinesis is the universal distance moving power, we can agree on that. Biokinesis means life manipulating right? But if that is the case than any movement of the physical body would be Biokinesis. As the skin is an organ. Any kind of harm to the body physically, from a distance is Telekinesis. If she caused ailments like a disease, stealing the senses, or something that couldn't be done through physical manipulation of force to cause trauma to the body than that is Biokinesis.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 18:49, November 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * On other character pages they use Biokinesis for stuff I thought was Telekinesis in the past. For example: when Jonah Greely slices Dean's face open with a finger movement, that's listed as Biokinesis and that looks exactly like what Magda did to Olivia and Ricky. Also, when the Wizard of Oz chokes Sam with what looks like Telekinesis its listed by someone as Biokinesis as well. Neither of those have ever been disputed. And I'm the original creator of both the Wizard page and this one. I think I originally listed what the Wizard did as Telekinesis too but someone changed it.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 18:58, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Than those need to be fix too. Think of it like this, if you can't move or cause base trauma with it, its beyond Telekinesis. It's not life itself was being controlled, only specifically targeted parts of the body were hit with Telekinesis.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 19:03, November 4, 2016 (UTC)
 * But here's something else: those marks on her back appeared as if they were whipped there but the marks on her hands and head kinda just appeared. The way the show showed it made it seem like Magda inflicted the injuries she was giving herself upon those people at the same time.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 20:46, November 4, 2016 (UTC)

Ok thinking of it like this. Eve could create monsters and alter humans to turn into monsters. Pestilence can create bacteria, viruses, etc. Zachariah gave Dean cancer. You see they controlled the body or life-energy to produce those ailment or creation. Like when a Demon, God, Angel, etc simply make some cough blood is different. Think of it like this you punch someone hard enough, bones break they might even bleed. These characters are simply using Telekinesis to cause these injuries by targeting specific area and causing damage with kinetic force. Even making someone explode, is still just Telekinetically causing the molecules to rip apart. Now if you punch someone it doesn't cause them to turn into monsters. Yeah damage can lead to infections. By that is an possible after affect it's not the specific first aspect. Now her's is tricky, but what've she did was simply to a voodoo doll. However she still used her Psychic powers to control them and cause those same injuries. Really that aspect seemed more like a separate power like linked physiology using her Telepathy and Telekinesis to send the same kind of injuries to whom she wanted. But all what she did was simply moving something. She didn't cause a change to their bodies. They just couldn't handle all the power she was using on them. Look at Fred Jones, yes he could alter reality. But it all came from his initial psychokinetic power. As average ones can move things with their mind, but strong ones can do things beyond that.

Simply point. Telekinesis can do any manipulation the other Kinesis powers can do, as it's the universal method. But cannot create what they manipulate (with the exception of those that can reshape reality). Like Pyrokinesis for example. Telekinesis can control fire but can't create it like some with Pyrokinesis can.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 23:47, November 4, 2016 (UTC)