Talk:Big Bad

Main villain of Season 6
Crowley or Raphael? User, David Kaique 06:53, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

Definatly Cowley. Raphael was Castiel's main antaganist, but he wasn't a nig concern of sam and dean. Castiel harvelle 11:33, October 7, 2011 (UTC)Castiel Harvelle

In this case, the two were. User, David Kaique 21:42, October 10, 2011 (UTC)

Demons?
Should we really have Demons as the main villians for season three? One this page is for individual villains, second shouldn't we then include ghosts for the first two seasons, demons for the fourth season, angels for the fifth season, monsters for the sixth season, and Leviathans for the seventh season? Its either one or all. General MGD 109 21:44, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

Michael a villain?
There seems to be a lot of back-and-forth changes regarding Michael's status as a villain. Can we resolve this once and for all, please? -- MisterRandom2 14:32, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Well he wasn't really a villain, he was more of a delliusional/anti hero, as he wasn't really a villain he can't be classed as a main villain, its simple logic. General MGD 109 20:51, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

he was however one of the winchesters greatest foes and technically is an enemy of sam and dean. plus zachariah is his servant, he's working through Michael. I don't feel the horsemen qualify as though powerful villains they each only appear once or twice, the other supporting villains appear multiple times.


 * Everybody, Michael's NOT a villain of season 5. How do you even classify him as a villain, what has he done to prove such? -- ImperiexSeed, 6:25 PM, May 27th 2012

He's shown willing to destroy the earth for th sake of fighting his brother, is an enemy of sam and deans, when crowley lists all the enemies that sam and dean have defeated along with all the others listed Micheal is one of them. he is the force responsable for the other enemies of the brothers: zachariah, raphael. He is equally as much as a supporting big bad as lucifer hallucination or bela.


 * No, he's really not (you CAN'T say as constant as hallucination of Lucifer). You got a point with Crowley's quote, in his comparison to villains. Anyhow, Michael is not 'bad' per se, as he's doing what he believes right. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:36 PM, May 27th 2012
 * Aren't they all? I mean just because you feel it's right doesn't make it so. Dictators throughout history believe their methods and goals were reasonanble and right but were really evil. I mean look at Hitler. I realise what you mean but he's one of the most repetitive enemies sam and dean have faced as he is the force that would be responsable for earths destruction even when lucifer asks not to fight, he refuses on the basis of what he feels is "right". that doesn't make him good, it makes him corrupt.

What's with the introduction
What's the introduction talking about, how the main villain isn't always a charater, and is sometimes a natural force. All the main villians were charaters, if it means the horsemen, then although they were natural forces, they were still charaters, and individuals. Plus what they were doing wasn't natural, it was there (or lucifers) whims, either explain it or change it. General MGD 109 20:54, May 27, 2012 (UTC)