User blog comment:EmpyreanSmoke/Templates/@comment-5619706-20141120033028/@comment-50.89.225.132-20141120061803

You're welcome, and thank you for the link.

Out of the two potential Retcon templates, I favor the original you made because I feel that that moment, particularly its quote ("Your Bible gets more wrong than it does right"), is more memorable to SPN than the moment used in the template EmpyreanSmoke made. I feel that "I really hate continuity errors" is only recognizable as an SPN quote (rather than just a user's feelings on the matter) with Gabriel is pictured next to it; it may cause confusion for users who don't recall that Gabriel said it in "Meta Fiction". However, the Bible quote may not reflect the point of the template as well as the other does. I myself think it works when you consider that the show has/had a show-Bible with parts that the information in the article that is either "wrong" according to show-Bible or prior information from the show-Bible that is being retconned as "wrong." Other people may not associate that with the line, so I'm uncertain if it should be used. I currently vote to revert to the original Retcon template FTWinchester created, but if you guys feel that another template would be more suitable, we can stick with the "continuity errors" template or brainstorm moments/quotes that are readily associated with SPN (like the "Bible" template) while clearly reflecting what the the template is about (like the "continuity errors" one).

Alas, I agree with the reasoning that both you and EmpyreanSmoke used in your comments below with the two potential Alias templates. Castiel's entrance is a far more exciting and iconic than the scene of Casey the Demon expositioning; a charged scene that introduces a major character (and Ensemble Darkhorse) is much easier for users -- even those perhaps not as well-acquainted with the show -- to recognize and connect to with regards to the template over a scene involving an unnamed, one-episode character talking. However, like "I really hate continuity errors," "Who are you?" is not as immediately recognizable as an SPN quote as "You think his friends just called him 'Yellow Eyes'? He had a name." Both of them reflect the point of the template well -- the lack of knowledge of an individual's identity, in- and out-of-universe -- but I think that EmpyreanSmoke's template gets it across better, as it -- as an Alias template -- directly addresses that the name being used is indeed just an alias. For that reason, I currently vote for the new Alias template EmpyreanSmoke created. Whichever is chosen, my suggestion is that the picture for the template be changed -- the "Who are you?" one to the iconic (to borrow your word) shot of Castiel displaying his wings to prove to Dean that he's an angel, or the "You think his friends just called him 'Yellow Eyes'? He had a name" one to one of the shots of Azazel in shadow with only his trademark eyes visible -- to better demonstrate the character to whom the quote is referring and thus the point of the template.

So, are there any other users who want to partake in the discussion? I don't know if EmpyreanSmoke can even comment on the blog right now, with him having been blocked. Two (maybe three) users does not a representative sample for the whole wiki make.