User blog comment:ImperiexSeed/The oldest being, archangel or leviathan?/@comment-168.169.25.92-20151106013500/@comment-168.169.25.92-20151106190512

"To keep those clever poisonous things out"

"Don't forget that leviathan are intelligent"

^I seriously can't believe you attempted this as an argument...My parents said I was clever and therefore there is nothing to suggest I wouldn't find a way out of being contained by angels? The fact that they are clever does not magically imply that they can bypass the reality warping power of archangels. One of the Leviathan couldn't even escape from capture by Sam and Dean, tied up to a chair in their basement, let alone the reality warping powers of the archangels. If an Angel trapped a Leviathan in an infinite time loop like Sam, how exactly are they going to use their "smarts" to get out of it? The fact that you can't use "cleverness" to undue angelic power (Sam couldn't get out the timeloop, Dean couldn't think of a way to get out the house Raphael trapped him in) suggests that they wouldn't be able to find a way out.

Someone mentioned a pool full of cleaning materials. Splashing a couple drops on Leviathan burned them like acid. Dick was dissolving as well, regardless of whether or not he was screaming in as much pain. That was a splash. Think of drowning them in a whole pool, think of the incapacitating pain. How would black goo climb out of a pool? They travel through water and flow like a liquid. Without a vessel, they aren't climbing out of a pool. What if it isn't a pool, but a closed aquarium filled with Borax - how are they going to get out?

You can say that as many times as you want: It's not going to take long for the archAngels to realize how Leviathan work. You can bind Leviathan with a rope, it doesn't take much. You can banish them by separating the head of a vessel, putting it in a box, and trapping it in a house it can't leave. Or trapping it in an infinite time loop. Or trapping in it a house with no exit.

There's nothing stopping the archAngels from warping Dick's finances out of existence, or simply demolishing all of them while invisible.

What evidence is there that Castiel was nighomniscient? Even if he was, that would be a power separate from his mind. You have cosmic characters with Cosmic Awareness of the universe, does that mean that they can withstand the attack of a psychic?

Last, his power is separate from his mind. The Leviathan were taking control of his vessel, not him specifically. The vessel is the container that the Angels reside in, and through the vessel, the angel could use its power. We can agree to disagree on this point, as it is irrelevant and inapplicable to any part of this battle.