User blog:Kaestal/Free Will debate

So many of us on the site have different views on the concept of free will in the series, some think that within the series canon free will is exactly like Michael stated, a myth.

While others (myself included) think that within the series canon the "plan" was just Michael and Raphael being tired of the constant fighting that happened, just wanting peace and paradise.

While the Supernatural Books definitely showed events that had occured it was just that.. stuff that had already happened and during the debut episode of Chuck Shurley seemingly altered reality when claiming what would happen soon, but if he was simply looking into the future of course he would know these events would occur.

I personally think that God (as Chuck) was simply looking at events that had occured to make the past four years worth of books to eventually encounter the Winchesters, and later writing down what was most likely to occur based on the decisions that they made, after all if free will didn't exist then even if Chuck didn't release more books than events would still happen the same way.

It seems that the plan or apocalypse itself wasnt destiny, in fact it seemed to be entirely based off of the free will that Michael and Raphael claimed didn't exist, their father wasn't over there shoulder saying to let Dean break in Hell, they wanted that to happen so they could start the apocalpyse.

Even if season 4-5 were written to be without free will beyond that was entirely free game, 6-11 was without a doubt their own choices (and screw ups).

Raphael said that the apocalypse had been derailed in season 6, if so and if it truly was God's plan to end the world at that time then with a snap of a finger Michael and Lucifer would be freed to resume their fight.

Castiel stated in season 7 that the Leviathan were put in a different dimesion for a reason as they were a huge threat to everything else in existence except possibly the Archangels. I wouldnt plan to release something that could kill everything else I made.

End of Season 8, the Angels fell.. I can't think that this was part of any plan and in my personal opinion this is where the series really started to go downhill.

Season 9-10 was the Mark of Cain being dealt with and at the end Death was killed, this is where the writers should have reintroduced God almost immediately, as The Darkness is a threat that can only be beaten by God and The Archangels.

Season 11... is the writers just wasting time until a quite literal Deus Ex Machina occurs, two humans cannot beat a God level foe anymore, they only beat Death because of plot stupidity and now there is no weapon in existence that can possibly kill either Amara or God.

If these later seasons are a part of God's Plan then it is kinda a shit one, and I don't think the one person who defeated the Darkness and is described by Lucifer as a master tactician would flub something this badly.

Thoughts or debates?