User blog comment:ImperiexSeed/Horsemen VS Angels/@comment-1509826-20120609210138/@comment-3481504-20120609211343

Yes, the Angels are not universal, OR fundamental, and sure, they have more weaknesses, but that could be because they the Horsemen are just phenomenons, naturally incorporeal.

But, full Angels, such as Balthazar, aren't affetecd by Pestilence's "charm"....Pestilence even knows this, as he commented Cas as powerless.

Angels are, however, affected by War, they fight, they bicker, etc.

Again, Cas was affected a Horseman's (Famine) power because he was weakened, plus his Vessel, Jimmy Novak, loved red meat.

-sigh-, Again [grumbles]] of course Leviathan couldn't kill Horsemen, they're just natures, elements.