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It's okay if i put the sub-species of the creatures in Supernatural page? Example: Demons: Princes of hell, knights of hell, etc; Angels: archangels, seraphim, etc; Ghosts: Poltergeists, Buruburu, etc; Humans: Psychics, Special Children, etc? I'll have no problem to do but i don't know if you think that this is unnecessary Doctor49 (talk) 05:09, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

This is an image that was in the page of the Fates before i add the infobox Doctor49 (talk) 22:11, July 28, 2017 (UTC)

Should list animal like birds, cats, dogs, rats in the list of species seen in the series? Doctor49 (talk) 04:52, July 30, 2017 (UTC)

I found a problem with the angels page. If you click on the type of angels box, it immediatley take you down to the known angels. I cant figure out why this is happening. Thetwindler (talk) 04:23, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

Since the nephilims Jane and Jack are vastly different in power, should we make a subsection in the powers and abilities catagorey for them? Thetwindler (talk) 17:41, October 25, 2017 (UTC)

Category idea
Hey, I've been thinking about this for a while and I want to know your opinion. I feel like the "characters whose actor portrayed more than one character" seems a bit stuffy and not organized. That's my opinion. I was wondering if we could either switch to using, or use additionally a tag that says "characters portrayed by ___" (example: characters portrayed by Mark Pellegrino). What do you think? Kajune (talk) 12:16, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

Zane, this is just a random question but what do you think about a category listing characters who have been tortured? Kajune (talk) 13:42, June 13, 2017 (UTC)

Hey Zane, how about a category for "Disbanded" groups or organizations? We have the "Extinct" category for species, so why not one for groups? Kajune (talk) 16:50, June 18, 2017 (UTC)


 * 1. Team Save the World 2. Ghostfacers 3. Bartholomew's faction 4. Ladyhearts 5. Raul's Girls 6. RR Enterprise 7. Malachi's faction. Kajune (talk) 17:34, June 18, 2017 (UTC)

Dragons
Why is the Dragons page locked? Kajune (talk) 17:50, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, Zane. :) Kajune (talk) 17:57, May 6, 2017 (UTC)

Crowley's fate
I'm glad you seem to agree with me about marking that Unknown. However, there seems to be an edit war over it due to an unregistered user putting ridiculous things as his fate.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 16:00, May 12, 2017 (UTC)

Featured wiki videos
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Re
Sorry, I'm just really busy right now and don't have the time to make those little repairs. As you might've noticed, I didn't do any big update after that last episode.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 19:39, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Just busy with work mostly.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 19:46, May 13, 2017 (UTC)

Hi, what's the difference between with-rollback rights and without-rollback rights? Touchinos (talk) 10:26, May 15, 2017 (UTC)

I recently updated it, yeah, added the Tempter Demon and Drexel. Though I'm sad to say the many unnamed demons....I have no idea how to add them. Any suggestions? Kajune (talk) 19:38, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

I'll probably just add them as "Unnamed (this/that)". It's the only option I see. Creating a separate page sounds messy. Kajune (talk) 20:22, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

I think I'm still missing a few unnamed demons. I'll try and finish it up right now. Kajune (talk) 16:22, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

New Category
I noticed a handful of characters have committed suicide, or at least attempted to. Should they get a category for it? Kajune (talk) 13:33, May 15, 2017 (UTC)

I counted at least 9 characters. Kajune (talk) 14:50, May 15, 2017 (UTC)

We don't have to have this category. Excluding those who asked to be killed and whose death was voluntary, there's about 10 people. I list them as: Ellen Harvelle, Gadreel, Dr. Gaines, Tessa, Max Miller, Victor Rogers, Inyo, Barry Cook, Rebecca Gibson, Melanie Merchant, Suzie, plus Suzie's mother, brother and father. Kajune (talk) 15:08, May 15, 2017 (UTC)


 * Found more: Ian Johnston, Oren, Lara Coggins, Eva Braun, Walter Kelly, Jessie O'Brien, Unnamed Suicide Demon, Jane Peterson, Paul Connelly, Marion Greely, Madoff, Paul Durban and Delphine Seydoux. Kajune (talk) 15:57, May 15, 2017 (UTC)

Hey
I was peeking around the wiki templates...and I thought about making a bigger version of the seasons template because I didn't even notice it. So my finger might have slipped a bit. What do you think? :v 04:12,5/16/2017

Name
Zane...the painter Peiro has a surname in IMDb but not in the episode. What should I do? Kajune (talk) 14:59, May 16, 2017 (UTC)

I think I'll leave the actual page with the name "Piero", for now. But another question, can I rename the episode "Paint it Black" and make the i in it a capital? Kajune (talk) 15:14, May 16, 2017 (UTC)

Alright then. I won't do anything to do it. How to you feel about the new pages I added? Kajune (talk) 15:54, May 16, 2017 (UTC)

Why do only some of the articles about creatures have the recurring characters template? Thetwindler (talk) 15:52, May 17, 2017 (UTC)

Just to clear the air here
Look, I was paying attention to the cast credits in the season finale while it was on. Now I understand I don't want to risk a block. You see, I just wanted to expand the ep page plus the main cast bill for season 12 is out of order.I thought the user is one of those disruptive editors. HotheadedBirdy (talk) 02:58, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

Polls
Heya Zane, do you know how to archive polls? I am going to create new ones so we should archive the current ones. SeraphLucifer (talk) 09:22, May 19, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

The poll on the main page needs updating too. The poll talks about Mick, and Mick has been dead for literally more than a month! Kajune (talk) 10:01, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks a lot Zane but I figured out. Do you think new poles are OK? SeraphLucifer (talk) 14:35, May 19, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Deletion
I deleted the Romani Blood Purification page because I had already created the page. Actually I created pages for all of those rituals last night so I don't get why that guy created ones of his own at all. Anyway, the link still shows on Rituals and Spells page even though the page itself has been deleted and I can't figure out how to get rid of it. Could you please help me out here???--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 19:11, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

The link is definitely still there on the Rituals and Spells category page. Bottom of the Rs, Romani Blood Purification Ritual. I just double-checked after reading your last message.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 19:24, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

K. I don't understand why I'm still seeing the link on that category page though.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 20:11, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

The same thing has happened with a "Demian and Barnes" page located in Season 5 characters category. The page doesn't really exist but it still appears. Kajune (talk) 20:21, May 19, 2017 (UTC)

Vandalism
Zane, someone was vandalising Toni's page three times in a row. And someone made a weird random page calling it Yep. --Kajune (talk) 04:51, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

Articles?
Hi, Zane T....I noticed the message you left on my talk page and am a little confused. Are you saying I am unable to use the pic I uploaded, on my profile page? As far as I know, that is the only place I used it, but your message said something about not being able to use the image on "articles". I don't think I uploaded the pic to any articles, at least, I HOPE I didn't! Ks2id2tx (talk) 17:34, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

We don't allow the uploading of photos, GIFs, or videos solely for personal use. If one is already used on another page, then you're allowed to also use it for personal uses, such as your userpage. In short, we only allow the uploading of such files for articles. What you did was forbidden. Zane T 69  ( talk ) 17:51, May 20, 2017 (UTC)

K.....got it......I just want to clarify.....that means I can use, say, the spoiler pic that y'all use of Dean screaming, since it's already on the SPN wiki? Ks2id2tx (talk) 00:55, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Edits
My edit count is not going up on my profile page. I see the actual number when I look under contributions. Do you know why this is? Kajune (talk) 03:55, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Ah, it's okay now. I think it fixed itself....and long last. Kajune (talk) 04:50, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Hey
That new Logan guy removed both of our warnings on his talk page and doesn't seem inclined to listen. I warned him about putting Eve as being in charge of Purgatory which had resulted in an edit war between him and another user. His apparent reaction to my warning was to delete it and list the boss as none after I told him to leave it as Unknown.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 06:04, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

I didn't even notice he did that at first until I checked his history after he removed mine and noticed something from you reverted. I had a pretty good idea what it was.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 14:38, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Of course.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 21:59, May 21, 2017 (UTC)

Hey
I don't think we ever figured out whether or not we were gonna do that whole Killed By thing. Also, after some painstaking effort, I managed to figure out that whole image resizing thing. Further up on my talk page we had a discussion about being unable to figure it out months ago and FTWinchester said something about it. For my newest article on here, the Raid on the British Men of Letters compound, I put in some effort and managed to figure out how to resize the image of Sam with the Colt from the table on that page so it could fit as one of the pictures on the article I created. Wasn't easy, let me tell you. But it really is simple once you figure it out!!! I still can't add images here as I don't have any to add, but I now know how to edit the existing images.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 06:39, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

List on the person's page.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 15:08, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

So, what, a separate page for each person's kills??? I could get behind that except with the more minor characters. I'd say we create pages for the big characters such as the Winchesters, Crowley and Cas but the more minor bad guys we add it to their pages directly as it doesn't make sense to make separate pages for a guy who's in one or two episodes.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 16:57, May 25, 2017 (UTC)

So what do you think the pages should be called??? Killed by Dean Winchester, etc???--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:30, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

I think I'm gonna work up a page for a character in my sandbox first over the next couple days and then when its done, I'll have you look it over to determine if that's the best way to do it or if we should modify it. Once that is perfected, I'll use it as the template from which to build the other pages.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 01:42, May 26, 2017 (UTC)

Beyond my plan for the victim pages, no, not at the moment.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 01:36, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

What's that other project??? Also, I've had an idea of how to link to these pages: when we do that Deceased (killed by so and so) thing, we make the "killed by" thing be a link to the victims page for that character if they are a main character.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 03:10, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

This is what I've got so far for Dean. Check it out.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 03:55, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

(Takes A Bow). I'm gonna finish this and we'll iron it out afterwards. Might be a day though since its late here and I might have to go to bed soon.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 04:25, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

Well I've done all I can think of. I'd like for you to look it over, see if you can find anyone I missed. BTW: I just learned that SPN season 12 is now up on Netflix. I was shocked since it usually takes longer than the DVD for that to come out, never mind a week after the finalie!!!--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 05:59, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

What do you think for a title and a category???--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 15:01, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

That's what I was thinking too. So, Dean, Sam, Cas and Crowley. Who else do you think requires their own page for their victims instead of a list just being added to the existing page???--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 16:27, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

True. I'm also thinking Metatron, the Darkness and maybe Meg. Currently I'm working on Castiel.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 18:31, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

Good. Just about done with Cas now.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 19:42, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

I've got Cas and Dean done now and posted.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 21:03, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. Meg is up next. That's smaller and should be easier.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 21:43, May 27, 2017 (UTC)

What do you think so far??? I've got Dean, Cas, Meg, Jody and Metatron done so far. I haven't linked in Dean's kills on their pages yet as that's a bigger job but I have for the other four.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:22, May 28, 2017 (UTC)

Future Plans
Heya Zane, hope you're doing fine... Currently, I am focused on continuity and validity of articles. I've been busy for few days, however after Tuesday, I'll be here a lot and edit much more. Weaknesses section is my priority, and then I am planning to check power articles, sections. I can deal with that stuff alone. Also, I am willing to help on any section and matter. Do you have any ideas towards the future work? I'd be happy to help. SeraphLucifer (talk) 18:26, May 26, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Angel Killing Bullet
No offense but what do you mean that was speculation? Archangel blades can kill archangels. Melt the blade into bullets and it can kill archangels. Basic common sense bro. The Inner Hate (talk) 1:41 a.m. May 28, 2017 (utc)The Inner Hate

But wasnt the archangel Gabriel killed with one by Lucifer? The Inner Hate (talk) 1:41 a.m. May 28, 2017 (utc)The Inner Hate

I just assumed since it works with angel blades it would work with archangel blades. My bad. The Inner Hate (talk) 1:41 a.m. May 28, 2017 (utc)The Inner Hate

Voting and the Homepage
Hey Zane, would it be okay if I created a forum to nominate the template I showed you a week ago? Or do the admins have to create it? My suggestion is to just let me make it so everyone sees it at once, and the community can vote.

Also, the homepage needs updating.

02:02,5/29/2017

Link to discussion. 22:15,5/29/2017

Bill
I'm conflicted. There's this character most often referred to as "Billy", but his actual name might be "Bill". I don't know which to choose. Kajune (talk) 15:11, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

Inactive
Heya Zane, I will be inactive for a long time I suppose. Having hard time atm. Just wanted to inform you. SeraphLucifer (talk) 20:16, June 3, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Episode Navigation
Pardon my inactivity. I was caught up with so many things and I only recently caught up with the show's most recent season. I must say I really love the navigation you guys came up with. Very helpful to our readers. Great job! FTWinchester (talk) 20:58, June 12, 2017 (UTC)

Princes of Hell
Is there any particular reason you undid my edits for Meg and Tom?

Seraph&#38;Cherub (talk) 18:48, June 14, 2017 (UTC)

The NaV Seasons Box
Hey Zane, it's been two weeks since I created the Forum discussion for the Seasons Nav Box, how many more people have to vote for it? Because idk if people forgot about it.

01:35,6/16/2017

Ban Request
Plz ban the user Mattatron, he always puts speculations and does shitty edits. He was blocked already once as I know.

Apologies
Apologies. Did not realize I was in violation. Just got sad seeing so many actors with so little info (Had planned to hit Osric next but now that I know that this was intentional, I definitely won't). Apologies, once more. Won't happen again.

Also terribly hopeful this is posted correctly, I have no concept of how to contact the admins just yet...still learning the wiki.

Skittythegreat (talk) 22:45, June 23, 2017 (UTC)

I have gotten a notification that I was banned for three days due to Vandalism, I was hoping we could clear this up some way. I'm sure it was a mistake. May I ask what I did?

Vxctor (talk) 18:39, June 29, 2017 (UTC)

Unable To Think Of A Good Title
So to expand upon the Killed By thing I wanted to add a section in each person's page for their death. They do that on several Wikis including Falling Skies and Walking Dead.

Basically they do it like this: a heading of Death with two of those equal sign things on either side, then below that a subheading of Killed By with three of those equals sign things on either side, a bullet point with the killer's name and a brief description of how they were killed. It might be easier to just send you a link to a Wiki page with that sort of thing on it but I'd like to do that here. For someone with multiple deaths we can put the killer's name and then something like (First Time) etc next to it.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 18:04, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

Take a quick look at the example on this page so you know what I'm thinking here: http://fallingskies.wikia.com/wiki/Skitter_(Grace). That's a page written by Yours Truly FYI.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 22:11, July 10, 2017 (UTC)

Close, yes, but not the same. That's a more basic version. What I'd do in place of that would be something more like this:

Description here. Description here. Repeat. --WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 23:07, July 10, 2017 (UTC)
 * Raphael (First Time)
 * Lucifer (Second Time)

Book Charachters pages
I noticed your messages to the guy who added those pages to the Book Characters section. A lot of them are at least somewhat badly written and I think should be removed. I noticed your messages to him about English possibly not being his first language, but the pages are still bad. I wanted to delete them, at least for now until a later time when they can be much better reworked.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 04:48, July 11, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thank you for leaving the message on my page. I will be inactive from Sunday until late August but I'm really happy to have reached 500 edits, and I plan to continue editing this wiki when I come back to England. Dtol (talk) 19:54, July 14, 2017 (UTC)

I'd be happy to remove most of the redlinks, but some are blocked, so I'll just leave those out. Dtol (talk) 22:00, September 18, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the message you left on my page! It seems interesting, so I'll accept and give it a go. Thanks! Dtol (talk) 10:58, October 7, 2017 (UTC)

Problems
For some reason, I'm no longer receiving emails when pages update. Any idea about why that could be???--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 08:02, July 15, 2017 (UTC)

Colt Bullets
I want to create a page for the Colt bullets. Not for their use, they already have a chart for that, I mean for the bullets themselves. Like how they were made by Samuel Colt and then once they were expended, Bobby made more with the help of Ruby. That stuff's only very briefly covered in the Colt page.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 04:28, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

Mostly looking for an opinion since some of it is covered in the Colt page. BTW: I followed your suggestion on the email update problem. They fixed the issue for me today.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 23:17, July 18, 2017 (UTC)

Claire Novak page guy
I'm not sure if that guy was just a dumbass, ignorant, or an ignorant dumbass. It might be that he mixed up vampire and werewolf though. Which means Ignorant Dumbass.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 03:09, July 19, 2017 (UTC)

Affiliation
Do boyfriends and girlfriends count as affiliations? Kajune (talk) 06:35, July 21, 2017 (UTC)

Mattatron guy
Looks like he's at it again. If we have to block him again, how long will we do it for this time??? Because he's not stopping.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 03:27, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

Problem is, he's been blocked at least twice. Once by Seraph and once by you and doesn't seem to be learning his lesson.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 04:24, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

Doctor49
Is it just me or does that guy seem to be making unconstructive edits??? I want a second opinion there.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 23:43, July 22, 2017 (UTC)

For now I'm gonna give him a warning. But if he updates like that again, I will.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:13, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

I just noticed all those warnings and stuff on his talk page. Sounds like the same sort of stuff that other guy does.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:15, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

That Mattatron guy. He just kinda reminded me of him. Making unconstructive edits and not learning his lesson despite multiple blocks.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:32, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

I did??? That was probably an accident.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 21:15, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

Parent Tab Template
Zane, I really think this wikia could finally use a "Parent Tab Template", or whatever it is actually called. It's basically tabs at the top of a page that allows to look at History, Abilities, or Gallery separately. I think, for the bigger pages at least, that we could use four tabs for "Overview", "Synopsis", "Abilities and Weaknesses" and "Quotes".

What do you think? Kajune (talk) 22:49, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, similar, but it goes on the top of the page. By having this template, pages will likely take less time to load. This is important since Season 13 is coming. Kajune (talk) 23:41, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

If you allow it, I can try and make the template myself. :) Kajune (talk) 23:57, July 23, 2017 (UTC)

I've tried it out with Dean's page. Basically, he's entire page has been split into two more pages that can be navitaged by going through the main page. I would like your opinion on this. Kajune (talk) 02:29, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

I'm not entirely proud of it since I think the page with the episodes still loads slowly when entering Source Mode. What do you think? Kajune (talk) 18:09, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

Shall I wait for other users' opinions or do you wish this format to be given to other major characters? Kajune (talk) 18:53, July 24, 2017 (UTC)

I have about four or five opinions on the matter and none oppose. If that's the case, I'll add the template to Sam and Castiel's pages, then I will work on the category pages. That okay? Kajune (talk) 20:11, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Castiel's page is locked (which is understandable). Also, I personally do not like the video on the top of Castiel's page. It plays automatically and I find that annoying. Who put that there? Kajune (talk) 20:18, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

I guess I'll just have to endure the video then. XP As for Castiel's page being locked, it makes sense. Too many users have been popping in trying to change his status to "Alive" thanks to Jared. Castiel is officially dead, but very few users accept that. Kajune (talk) 20:27, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

I've completed adding the Parent Tab to Castiel and Sam's pages. I'm also using the "Character Subpages" category to store the newly-made pages caused by this Tab. What do you think? :) Kajune (talk) 21:33, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

I'm glad you like 'em. However, I am currently questioning the necessity of the "Character Quotes" category. Right now, we only have three characters who require the Parent Tab Template, so that gives us only three pages for that category. Unless you have other ideas, I prefer just using the "Character Subpages" category. Kajune (talk) 21:48, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

If we have no plan in making individual pages for everyone's famous quotes then yeah, delete it. Kajune (talk) 22:18, July 26, 2017 (UTC)

Leviathan vs Cain
Since Leviathans dont just shapeshift into other beings but they actually become them, is it safe to say they can shapeshift into cain, and since he has the mark they would have it as well and if they had the first blade could kill cain? User:The Inner Hate (talk) 1:50 pm, August 8, 2017 (UTC)

Rollbacks
I assume you mean people who have those rights not people whose edits need to be rolled back???--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:33, August 15, 2017 (UTC)

I agree on Kajune. He mostly does good work though his page creation leaves something to be desired. His editing is fine though. I would support his promotion. However, I don't really know the other one all that well. I've just seen him on here occasionally making edits.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:39, August 15, 2017 (UTC)

In the past I've found it to not be of the best quality. Not the worst, but definitely needing some work at times. He's fixed that though when I've pointed it out to him. At least I believe that was him. Either way, I still support his promotion.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:51, August 15, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Rollback
Omg you already asked me this before but I thought I replied I'm so sorry. Holy shit. Uh yeah, sure, I guess? What do I do? Touchinos (talk) 01:09, August 15, 2017 (UTC)

Opinion
I'd like your opinion on something: I'm going to create pages for the vampire and werewolf cures and wanted your opinion on what categories to add them too. Objects obviously, but anything else??? Specifically I was wondering your thoughts on whether or not they belonged in the Rituals and Spells category as well.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 16:29, August 24, 2017 (UTC)

I did but I didn't see the point of acknowledging it. And under that category are things like potions. At least I think there's something labeled potions under there. At the very least the vampire cure is a potion. But honestly, I don't know. Maybe make a category of its own for cures??? We have at least three: the vampire cure, the werewolf cure and holy fire for Rabids. And then, of course, there's the Demon Curing Ritual. So that's four.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 17:08, August 24, 2017 (UTC)

I'm gonna go with creating that new category. I'm also gonna create a page entitled sire blood for the blood used in the cure. I got that name because in Ladies Drink Free, the werewolf cure was specifically stated to need the blood of the sire werewolf. Hence in canon calling that vamp or whatever that turned the person their sire or at least their blood by that name is acceptable.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 18:20, August 24, 2017 (UTC)

First, you didn't sign your post to my talk page. Second, I've already begun. I'm working on the sire blood page now and have created the Cures category and added the already existing pages that I can think of. On the top of the category page I wrote that its both the cures themselves and the materials for them so I've added sire blood, Demon Curing Ritual, holy oil and purified blood so far.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 18:32, August 24, 2017 (UTC)

I'm planning now on adding a page entitled Cures or Curing. Not a category, an actual page listing the cures in the show. Like the decapitation page. I'm gonna add it to both the Cures category and the Rituals and Spells one. Since the Demon Curing Ritual will fall under the page, that should at least qualify it for that.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:42, August 25, 2017 (UTC)

Kinda Back
Heya Zane, hope you are doing well, it is great to see you around here. As you know I've been missing for a few months, what has changed during the wiki (like Sam & Dean pages), what is the current projects and plans, can you tell me about it when you are avaiable if possible, thanks. Appreciate all the work you've done when I was away... SeraphLucifer (talk) 21:29, August 30, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Polls
Hey Zane, I just checked the poll results and it looks quite well. 1500 people vote, that is nice. Should I make a new poll after the season premiere airs or now? SeraphLucifer (talk) 22:09, September 3, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Category:Souless
Hey man, I'm sorry about those poor edits I had done, but I had an idea. I was wondering if we could make a category for soulless beings. There seems to be enough of them that we could make a category for them. Let me know your thoughts! Metalworker14 (talk) 22:59, September 4, 2017 (UTC)

Soulless Category
Someone has started to put angels into a new Soulless category. Do you think that's right to allow them to do that??? Because I'm not sure if they really count for that category.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 17:11, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Ouch!!! Better fix that then and let that guy know what you meant.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 18:25, September 5, 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey!!! So so sorry. I didn't realize I was doing anything wrong. I'll stick to just people if that'd be better, though, in my defense, I did say soulless "beings" not necessarily humans. But, I originally wanted to ask you if it'd be fine to do the category and then I re-watched the episode where God said he'd didn't have a soul. Metalworker14 (talk) 01:11, September 6, 2017 (UTC)

Mike Hooks
I did but then I rewrote the page because I thought it was pretty badly done. I just finished editing that page before I sent you this response.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:31, September 8, 2017 (UTC)

Re: Discussions
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 * I have read your reply and can appreciate your stance on the conversation. Could you please explain to me, however, what you mean by 'dead'. In just the past 30 days, this community has had over 3.5 million global views with 662.6k unique visitors. This means that many of your users have returned multiple times. Over 67% of your traffic comes from mobile users, who are less likely to edit but are still appreciating the content. I would say that is quite far from 'dead'. Our statistics show that Discussions actually increases views overall, and in many cases, quite substantially.


 * I have noted your response and await that of your fellow admins. Best Regards. Pinkachu ( talk ) 19:34, September 14, 2017 (UTC)

Jack's Page
You keep removing my edit on Jack's page, saying it's speculation. How is it speculation? Jack most definitely granted Castiel the power to destroy Dagon. It's not speculation. JS0662 (talk) 00:20, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Smiting is a very broad power. According to this wiki, basically every time a demon is killed it's smiting. Even Sam's demon blood ranged method is considered smiting. That's besides the point though, I can take down the smiting link, but Dagon was definitely not killed with pyrokinesis. Was she burned, yes, but fire wouldn't kill her. We've seen demons been set on fire (even some with holy fire) and they still survived. My point is, he did use pyrokinesis, but that's not what killed her. If you want me to erase the smiting link I can, but demon destruction really should be added. JS0662 (talk) 00:47, September 17, 2017 (UTC) How is it assumption??? We saw him empower Castiel to kill Dagon. That's fact. And saying that he used reality warping to enable the fire to kill Dagon is really reaching. Yes, I do know that Jack can kill demons, because we saw him do it. Your arguement is the one that has no logical backing. We literally saw him kill a demon and you're saying it's assumption. Explain the logic in that. JS0662 (talk) 01:02, September 17, 2017 (UTC)

Gallery on each Season pages.
Okay so a user called Scorpian01 edited pretty much all the season pages and added a gallery of villains on it and I just don't know the point of it? Like, the Big Bad page already exists plus it ruins the format of the pages, "aesthetic"-wise. Touchinos (talk) 13:21, September 25, 2017 (UTC)

Work
I hope you're having a good time. Lots of work to do here, isn't there? Kajune (talk) 15:40, September 28, 2017 (UTC)

You're very diligent. Well done. :) Kajune (talk) 17:04, September 28, 2017 (UTC)

New Category
Well, it is reasonable. Also it could be used for battle pages. SeraphLucifer (talk) 20:58, September 28, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Recent Edit
I apologise for my recent edit. Halfway through saving the edit, my Internet broke down and would not restart for an hour. I closed the tab and rebooted my computer. After I did, I went back to the recent activity and saw that I had accidentally deleted the page. Sorry for any problems I caused. Dtol (talk) 23:21, September 29, 2017 (UTC)

Rollback
Thanks but I already did. Like a few months ago... 😂 Touchinos (talk) 22:36, October 3, 2017 (UTC)

Big Bad page
Dear Zane T 69,

Has the big bad page been updated for season 12 villains yet? Some new information has come to light. The villains wiki now says that the main antagonist of season 12 is Arthur Ketch and Lucifer. The secondary antagonist is Dagon. The Hess page says she is a supporting antagonist. I just thought you should know this. Have a nice weekend.

My bad
Dear Zane T 69,

Forgot to sign my name in the last message. My bad and sorry. Have a very nice weekend.ChrisG1999 (talk) 16:13, October 6, 2017 (UTC)ChrisG1999

Michael
Hey Zane, hope you are doing fine. I don't think I said that Alternate Michael info should be on Original one page. I implied that we should present the new vessels picture on the original page and season information. Original Michael is the main page so I believe we have to put basic things about his alternate self in the original page. Alternate Michael is a sub-page to it. In season 7, hallucination of Lucifer appeared but he is included on the page. In season 13 Michael appears again but as an alterna.te version. SeraphLucifer (talk) 19:50, October 9, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Understood. I'll be writing ASAP. SeraphLucifer (talk) 20:00, October 9, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Featured supernatural being in deaths door
Why did you revert my edit? If i remember correctly, only one leviathan was in the episode, so i changed leviathans into leviathan. The Inner Hate (User talk:The Inner Hate|talk]]) 1:31 pm, October 9, 2017 (UTC) The Inner Hate

Boss of Heaven
The talk page I was referring to is on the Ruler of Heaven page. There was a debate there on whether to remove Joshua as a ruler of Heaven, and his name was taken off the list of rulers. I was a bit misleading, sorry, but I thought that that would reflect on this page too, since ruler of heaven=boss of heaven? Dtol (talk) 23:55, October 9, 2017 (UTC)

Hey Zane, For the Big bad page the main villains of season 6 are not Raphael, Crowley and Castiel it is Raphael, Balthazar and Soulless Sam

regards, Ford Brody

Just a suggestion
Hi, Zane T 69, I understand where you're coming from on edit warring on the Big Bad page as I was on your side on the debate on who the S12's Big Bads and eventually concurred with you to locking it when Mazymuth kept changing it from what had been generally decided on. With that said, I have a suggestion, in addition to keeping the Big Bad page restricted, should we also create a policy to prohibit adding the Big Bads (or at the very least from determining who are the main and secondary villains) for each season until the finales? It can be only speculated who's a Big Bad until a season has run it's course, so think this would be solution that as it would keep users (those who don't have access to the page) being confused or arguing on who the Big Bads are as a result to the page being continuously updated during a season. What do you think? 70.93.90.147 21:26, October 11, 2017 (UTC)

That's fine by me. 70.93.90.147 21:47, October 11, 2017 (UTC)

Season 13 Title Card for the main page ( just click the number ):

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New Polls
Heya Zane, should I create new polls now? SeraphLucifer (talk) 16:06, October 13, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Now I have this ideas:

1 - What are your opinions on Season Premiere?

- Thrilling

- Interesting

- Alright

- Boring

- Appealing

2 - What do you look forward this season?

- Battle of two worlds

- Castiel's comeback

- Jack's development

- Michael and Lucifer's confrontation.

- Return of the God

3 - Will Jack choose Lucifer or Castiel as his family?

- Lucifer

- Castiel

- None of them

- Winchesters

Please write your suggestions, or anything that needs to be removed or changed for this poll options. I'll be waiting for your answers, then I'll publish them. SeraphLucifer (talk) 17:00, October 13, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Main Page
Hey Zane, I am planning to update the main page like featured articles, creatures, characters sections etc. I will send you and WG18 a preview before updating it, then we'll decide if it is fine to update it or not. Do you agree? SeraphLucifer (talk) 10:16, October 15, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

I left a message on Community Wiki in order to get some help about images. After re-sizing them, I'll be able to change the main page. SeraphLucifer (talk) 12:51, October 20, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Re: Summary
Really? I get them here: http://www.thefutoncritic.com/showatch/supernatural/listings/ but if you meant putting the official ones on the Summary section of each episodes, I thought we only put those on the episode section of each Seasons? Ugh did this even make sense to you? Touchinos (talk) 15:21, October 16, 2017 (UTC)

A Grammatical Error on "The Rising Son" Summary.
Hi, Zane T 69, there seems to be grammatical error in the official summary for "The Rising Sun" from a The CW press release. The summary goes as follows:

“The Rising Son” — (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-14, LV) (HDTV)

WHAT EVIL THIS WAY COMES… — Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) begin to explore what Jack (Alexander Calvert) is capable of doing with his powers. An unexpected visit from Donatello (guest star Keith Szarbajka) alerts the boys to the fact that Jack will need more protection than the Winchesters can provide. There is a new Prince of Hell in town, Asmodeus (guest star Jeffrey Vincent Parise), and with Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino) out of the picture, he sets his sights set on Jack. The episode was directed by Thomas J. Wright and written by Eugenie Ross-Leming & Brad Buckner (#1302). Original airdate 10/19/2017.

Now the error is when the summary says "he sets his sights set on Jack" which is clearly a redundancy. I feel that it was either meant to be "he has his sights set on" (which I find to be more likely) or "he sets his sights on". Now I have discussed this with Touchinos, but we have come to a disagreement. I think we should make the correction to grammatical error in the summary on the episode page. Touchinos thinks the summary should remain as is because it's officially from The CW (which I don't find to be common sense, though I understand his point) and also because as he put it "but if we do correct it that means we have to go aaaaall the way back to the start and correct each episode," in response to my suggestion for the correction, which I pointed out wouldn't be the case because if there are any errors on other summaries than they can be gradually corrected as their seen by other users over time and is flawed logic and lazy. My alternative solution is that we at least acknowledge the error made in The CW press release in Trivia. What do you think? 70.93.90.147 09:07, October 17, 2017 (UTC)

Okay, I will add it to the trivia now. 70.93.90.147 00:31, October 18, 2017 (UTC)

Hi sorry if I did some thing rong but. Sam and Dean are basically castiel only real family! I added Sam and Dean to the list of Cas's family. Because family doesn't end in in blood. I am sure if Castiel made a list of all his family members Sam and Dean would be the first ones on it!

Ps.I am just responding to the message you sent me.BadAssUnicorn7 (talk) 02:29, October 22, 2017 (UTC)

Any thoughts on what to do about this page? : Sam and Dean Winchester --Kajune (talk) 02:40, October 22, 2017 (UTC)
 * I just made it a redirect to Sam and Dean, but since it is linked from nowhere, it may as well be deleted. --Kevingr (talk) 08:35, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Layout
The wiki looks really weird right now. Know the reason? Kajune (talk) 13:15, October 23, 2017 (UTC)

I can hardly read any of the text. Is there a "History" section that says who last edited the layout? Kajune (talk) 15:35, October 23, 2017 (UTC)

re: layout change
I'm not aware of a layout change that we've done, but please use the form at Special:Contact/general to ask the Community Support team about what you're specifically referring to and be sure to provide details. JoePlay https://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/joeplayground/images/e/e5/FandomStaff.png (talk)  18:44, October 23, 2017 (UTC)

What changes are you referring to exactly? The Wiki seems to be displaying normally for me. Calebchiam Talk 19:51, October 23, 2017 (UTC)

Hey, Zane T 69, I am still seeing a different layout for at least the Alex Jones, Cody and Oberon pages. 70.93.90.147 01:12, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

The layout is back to normal for the Oberon page now, but the other two are still the same. 70.93.90.147 01:24, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

That's good to hear, but did they give you any explanation on how it happen? 70.93.90.147 01:32, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

Wiki Layout
Hi, the layout is back to normal now. Thank you for doing something about it! Touchinos (talk) 01:40, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

I found an error with the angels page, and I cant seem to figure out what it is. When you click on one of the types of angels in the types of angels box, it immediatley takes you down to the known angels.

Reapers
Technically dont reapers appear in every episode, but they're just unseen? We don't know if they reap monster souls but they reap human souls, and at least one human dies in every episode. User:The Inner Hate (talk) 4:47 am, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

Because shouldn't we add that to the reaper page? User:The Inner Hate (talk) 3:57 pm, October 24, 2017 (UTC)

Pictures
Wait, why? It's literally the same as the one on their pages... I was going to replace them but forgot to 😩 Touchinos (talk) 03:35, October 26, 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, I apologize. It was a bit late here when I decided to upload those. Touchinos (talk) 04:27, October 26, 2017 (UTC)

Absence
Hey Zane, I have been inactive for days but I'll return, my PC is fried. SeraphLucifer (talk) 19:46, October 26, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Fixed my PC, I'll start editing tomorrow. SeraphLucifer (talk) 21:45, October 29, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Princes of Hell VS Knights of Hell VS White eyed demons
I just got done with Soul Survivor and even though Cass was just a regular angel and not a seraphim, he over powered Dean. However he couldn't over power Cain and Ramiel was strong enough to almost kill him with ease as well as Alastair. So would it be ok to put princes as stronger than knights but less powerful than white eyed demons? I don't want to get in trouble by writing speculation. The Inner Hate (User talk:The Inner Hate|talk]]) 6:21 pm, October 27, 2017 (UTC) The Inner Hate

Hi, thank you for the hospitality Zane! Would you like to know how do I edit protected pages? the page Photokinesis is protected, I would like to add Asmodeus as one of the demons capable of using this ability. Thank you again! Samsammymoose (talk) 22:53, October 28, 2017 (UTC) samsammymoose

I understand, when you can add the phrase that I placed on the other pages next to him: When Asmodeus arrived at Needham Asylum his presence emitted a strong white light. This will help to not removed, I have seen that many remove information without sources even though they are correct. Thanks for your help! Samsammymoose (talk) 23:13, October 28, 2017 (UTC)samsammymoose

Asmodeus White Light arrival
Not sure if that was a power or just an effect of his teleportation. His appearance also caused the lights to flicker. When Dagon teleported in The British Invasion to the gang's location it caused strong winds.--WarGrowlmon18 (talk) 00:11, October 29, 2017 (UTC)

Asmodeus teleported to escape from Jack and did not happen the effect. He used Photokinesis to impose respect and cause fear on the demons. He did not use it to attack a target like Lilith and Samhain, but that does not change the fact that he used the ability. Moreover Asmodeus used no hand gesture in a manner similar to Castiel when he had the power of the souls of Purgatory, already Lilith and Samhain needed gestures to use the ability. So he not only used Photokinesis as he used it in a way superior to Lilith and Samhain.

Note: When Castiel used this it was also for to impose respect and not to attack. Samsammymoose (talk) 04:06, October 29, 2017 (UTC)samsammymoose

They exclude their edition on the Photokinesis page, I do not know if you have how to know who is but let him know that the information is correct, Asmodeus used a Photokinesis in The Rising Son in his first scene. Samsammymoose (talk) 03:51, October 29, 2017 (UTC)samsammymoose

Ok, sorry about that. Dtol (talk) 17:07, October 30, 2017 (UTC)

Angels and Demons in the Empty
Do you think it's necessary to put on every dead angel/demon's page that they are currently in the Empty? Dtol (talk) 17:49, November 4, 2017 (UTC)

Council
Hey Zane, can we gather all active admins, I'd like to speak about something. SeraphLucifer (talk) 20:26, November 4, 2017 (UTC)SeraphLucifer

Crowley Demon Curing Ritual Change
How is that misleading??? It would very clearly remove his powers. And magic is completely seperate from his demonic powers.

JS0662 (talk) 01:43, November 6, 2017 (UTC)

It's not misleadng. It would remove all his powers. You're main arguement is that he could still use magic. Saying that would be like saying the grace extraction ritual wouldn't remove all an angels powers because they still had knowledge of Enochian magic. Powers and magic are seperate.

JS0662 (talk) 02:04, November 6, 2017 (UTC)

I'm willing to concede if you'd just explain how I'm incorrect. Because, to me it just seems like you're stubborn and won't admit you're wrong. JS0662 (talk) 02:24, November 6, 2017 (UTC)

Firstly, what "general style", seriously, please enlighten me, there hasn't been one I've seen. Secondly, this is a quote from the page "Angels",

" An angel's grace is what supplies it with Enochian  magic, and therefore if it is removed they will be rendered powerless and mortal.".

By your logic, this is untrue since they still retain some powers, Enochian Magic, Telekinesis, Seeing a demon's true face, etc. I comprehend your points, they're just not valid points. JS0662 (talk) 02:42, November 6, 2017 (UTC)

They're not different cases. The creation of the being has no relevance, for one. Secondly, it says that "they will be rendered powerless and mortal", how does that not say essentialy, "they will lose all their powers"??? It is the same thing. If we really wanted to be correct we could say for angels "therefore if it is removed they will lose all angelic powers and rendered effectively human.", and for demons/Crowley, "this ritual would cause Crowley to lose all of his demonic powers and be rendered human". JS0662 (talk) 03:01, November 6, 2017 (UTC)