Talk:Castiel

04:01, May 7, 2011 (UTC)Can Cas be considered a antagonist now?
Given the events of "The man who would be king." can he be considered a villain?

Not yet in my opinion.... I don't think his "villainization" has been set in stone yet.Resistancefighter 04:01, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

No, in my honest opinion, right now, I believe that classing him and labling him a villain would be incorrect... Let's wait for further information before making such a change to his page... -- ImperiexSeed, 12:16 AM, May 7th 2011

No, I think Castiel is more of an Anti-Hero--Voyagersknight 14:05, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

@Voyagersknight I couldn't have said it better! He's an anti-hero for sure.... Resistancefighter 19:16, May 7, 2011 (UTC)

Does he will appear in season 7 later than he died?....castiel2000 7:56,nov 27,2011

Castiel is an anti-hero in season 4, a main protagonist in season 5 and a supporting antagonist in seasons 6 and 7

Is He Become "GOD"?
Is He Become As Powerful as real God Or Just some Other Very Powerful Deity (like as powerful as Mother of all?)

I think Cas is just a really powerful deity as of right now.... he's beyond powerful, but only because of the monsters he's absorbed. His reach is beyond anything we can think of but still finite as a far as I can tell from what we've seen in the finale. Resistancefighter 12:10, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

--It is confirmed now by Death in season 7 that he had become no more than a "mutated angel." Basically, aborbing all those souls, including the Leviathan, made him powerful, but at a cost. It was burning up his vessel and literally almost tore him apart.

Vashtari 19:33, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

No. Even after absorbing all the powers of Purgatory's souls he was still no match for Death who was completely unimpressed with Castiel's new power.L4D2 Ellis 23:00, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

The great being Chestnut
Using a translator from Latin to English, Castiel means: Chestnut, a chestnut or chestnut. Interesting isn't it? Also Castiel's name was spoken by Sam in Red Sky at Morning while summoning the ghost brother, if you listen carefully one of the first few words Sam says is "Castiel"--Alpha Lycos 08:34, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

-- Cassiel (go to Wikipedia for that) is one of the 7 archangels mentioned in post-biblical lore. I think they simply altered his name so it would sound cooler. I haven't seen anything from the writers on his name though. Since the other names, like Raphael and Uriel are from the same angelic lore, it makes sense that they would pull from that.

Vashtari 06:44, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Another Power

Especially in the last few episodes of season 6 he is shown to be invisible to those he doesn't want to be able to see him (or at least to the winchesters and bobby), shouldn't this be added to his powers? 145.94.229.125 14:54, September 27, 2011 (UTC)

Did Castiel die on his own after returning all the souls to Purgatory, or did Death kill him, because, I recall Death telling Sam and Dean to "get Castiel to return the souls to Purgatory, and he'll take care of the rest."98.243.113.206 01:09, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

In reply to the last, no death did not say he would take care of the rest, he just said he would make another eclipse.

Im sure its just one of those things people forget about so here this is the clip with that part. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2bKwFDd1EY Bullet7314 03:04, January 14, 2012 (UTC)

This article needs severe cleanup
I edited an early portion where someone stated as a fact that Castiel became God, when Death later mentioned he was simply a mutated angel from absorbing the souls. I hope that someone can go through and properly clean up this rather messy article. So many go in and add loads of crap without reading to see if there's any redundancy. Wikia's website does have proper templates to use. No one will take Supernatural Wikia very seriously if there's lots of incorrect info around here. I would do it myself, but I'm too busy, and it would require re-watching old stuff and looking up articles for citation. Meanwhile I would ask that one of the admins tag this article for cleanup.

Vashtari 06:44, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

He became a deity briefly, even the supernatural Superwiki states this. http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Castiel.: The Twilight of Your Despair 19:37, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

--Like I said, he didn't become "God" himself. He may have attained powers like a lesser deity, but in the end he was nothing more than an angel who absorbed more power from the souls. The Superwiki isn't a legit source because anyone can edit it. Unless things are cited by a legit source, such as the writers themselves in an interview we can link to, don't just take everything another wiki says as fact. It won't hold up here at all. I don't think you understand how Wikis and the Wikia really work, if you're willing to say "The superwiki says so." If you haven't noticed, they're as weak and dirty as bathwater unless the right people come in with good, solid resources.

Vashtari 20:05, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

I meant, he became a deity not a deity like God.: The Twilight of Your Despair 20:58, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

--I still think the Superwiki's claim is inaccurate. I've not read anything official stating he truly became a deity. From what I've seen first hand, it was the powers of the souls, particularly the Leviathan, that gave him strong power. He had altered power. He wasn't born into it, therefore being anything like a deity, such as the pagan gods, or even a daeva, wouldn't apply to him. In all cases that we've seen a true deity, they were naturally occuring. Unless Castiel ate ambrosia and became a god that way, I doubt he'd ever truly be one. That's why I keep saying he wasn't a deity. I only go based on the facts the show presents.

Everyone's still debating on whether or not Chuck is god, and they haven't said yes or no, so we can't say he was, lol.

Vashtari 21:03, April 10, 2012 (UTC)

Castiel & Cassiel
I changed Notes to Trivia. I also added that Castiel is based off of Cassiel. I can't find the official references to this, but there are several people who have found this. If someone has a solid producer reference, I'd be very grateful for someone to add that in.

Cassiel's ruling day is Saturday. Uriel and Cassiel are 2 of 3 angels (along with Machatan) who are mentioned as being the angels of Saturday, which is where I believe the mentorship between the two stems from. Most of these cases are with Kabbalah. There are also 7 archangels in mythology, Cassiel and Uriel being among the 7. I wish the sources I listed were stronger, however, from reading both, it sounds like both sources did a lot of research, but failed to list their own sources.

— Vashtari |( Talk to me! 06:47, May 8, 2012 (UTC)

Castiel has Relativitic reaction time, and Masssively Faster than Light
castiel was able to search an entire city ( every nook and cranny) in literally a small few seconds and low tier angels such as castiel at the time can move thousands of kilometers to places like jerusalem and back in short time frames as well. So the very least Castiel has relativistic reaction time and is massively Faster than Light.