Talk:Chronology of Supernatural

I could be wrong, but I thought the ten thousand years that Samuel stated when Eve started making the Alphas would equal to around 8,000 B.C. As that would be 8000 years prior to A.D and the A.D period would add the remaining 2000 plus years to the time frame.: The Twilight of Your Despair 19:49, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Uh, I find the majority of the information there to be based on assumptions, used in the outside world, rather than canon. As far as I'm concerned, a lot of the irrelevant info, like the Earliest Human Times and Human Times, should be removed, as nothing with it has ever happened in the show. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:55 PM, January 21st 2012

http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Mythological_Arc_Timeline they have an exact timeline from the series timeline transcript.: The Twilight of Your Despair 22:12, January 21, 2012 (UTC)

Earth was created at least after the Archangels as Lucifer said in The End Why? Why would I want to destroy this stunning thing? Beautiful in a trillion different ways. The last perfect handiwork of God. Meaning it was formed after him as before humans and the Earth Angels were the last perfect work of God, than went to make other things. Also, just cause the Earth wasn't made doesn't mean that other beings couldn't exist. The Earth isn't the center of creation or as old which means if the Earth wasn't formed yet doesn't all of the rest of creation was nothingness.: The Twilight of Your Despair 00:11, June 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Fine, well either Archangels are older (which isn't likely) or the Earth was created before the Leviathans. Uh, ok.... But prior to be confined in Purgatory, the Leviathans had to be somewhere. -- ImperiexSeed, 1:03 PM, June 18th 2012

Highly inaccurate/speculative?
I thought the fish Castiel was told not to step on was referring to the evolutionary anscestor of humans? Or was that a totally different matter?

Was it ever confirmed that Metatron is the oldest angel?

There are also a lot of grammar and semantic errors.

FTWinchester (talk) 18:58, November 3, 2012 (UTC)

Delete this page
As a lot of the information is based on assuptions and speculation, shouldn't we just remove this whole page, what purpose does it serve? General MGD 109 (talk) 18:50, December 27, 2012 (UTC)


 * The Primordial/Primeval/Prehistoric times are based around apparent information. God and Death are the first things EVER. The Leviathans, being the first creatures, likely come next. Section: Early Human History times is also very factual. Now, in sections like Modern times and Human times, there's a bunch of speculation and rudimentary assumptions. -- ImperiexSeed, 2:31 PM, December 28th 2012


 * Okay if its only them, then I surpose it could be fixed, personally I don't see the point in the page. General MGD 109 (talk) 19:44, December 28, 2012 (UTC)

Improving the page
I've made several referenced additions to the page, and it's a lot better now. There's still a lot more to be added and sorted out, especially from the pre-Christian period. I would say the page is currently divided between 1) direct canon statements, 2) educated inferences, and 3) fanon guesses.


 * 1) The canon statements are confirmed facts about the chronology of the show, typically with years the event took place or have passed since provided (like Bobby finding out Crowley was born in 1661). Most of these are referenced now.


 * 2) The educated inferences is mostly about the order some of the events take place in by putting them all together (like Michael ordering the Angels back to Heaven. Castiel says the angels haven't walked the Earth in over 2000 years, and we know Michael commanded the Holy Host after God left, so the order must have come from him).


 * 3) The fanon guesses are just pure speculation (like Famine coming into being because of the Leviathans. They're interesting theories, but not supported anywhere), which I frankly think should be removed.Anton Rodrick (talk) 11:13, July 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * Awesome. I agree with your third statement. Even statements saying Lilith was Adam's first wife makes me a bit uneasy. I mean sure, real-world lore has that, but I don't recall that ever being actually mentioned (or referenced, for that matter) in the show.  FTWinchester (talk) 12:00, July 11, 2013 (UTC)


 * The problem is clearly that too much real world Christian mythology is included on this page. The show does incorporate a lot of Biblical lore into its own mythology, but it's not the same thing. Supernatural is a work of fiction combining dozens of different mythologies, not just Christendom. Conflating the two just creates consistency issues. To name but one example on this page, Michael is stated to fight Lucifer over Moses's soul, but after he gets locked up in the Cage. That's possible in the Bible because Satan is free to walk the Earth after getting cast out of Heaven. Not so in Supernatural - there he gets sealed inside a God-built prison.Anton Rodrick (talk) 14:53, July 11, 2013 (UTC)