Talk:Photokinesis

For Angels is this something worth saying on the page. As it makes sense for Angels using parts of their true angelic spiritual self or parts of its direct energy to use against others.: The Twilight of Your Despair 23:47, April 12, 2012 (UTC)

Destructive White Light - Similar to Lilith's ability in depiction, however comes with the blue tinge that represents angelic presence, suggesting this is an extension of the Angel's true form. When Castiel used this power, he ordered the humans to "Shut your eyes!" as Anna did when she regained her true form, destroying Alastair's host. The light is powerful enough to kill a diner full of Eve's "perfect creations" the Jefferson Starships in 6.19 Mommy Dearest. This may have been what the Sherriff witnessed Raphael using on demons at a gas station in 5.03 Free To Be You And Me.

Angels?
It says angels as well as archangels, but I can only think of one angel who ever used it, and that was Castiel, and he could only do it because he had been super charged, by the 50,000 souls crowley gave him, did any other angel ever show it? General MGD 109 22:14, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Castiel's an Angel, and an Angel did it. Source: Mommy Dearest. That simple. And no, no other angel demonstrated that. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:21 PM, July 18th 2012
 * Lilith's a demon, that doesn't make it a demon power, any way my point wasn't he did it, my point was he could only do it with the 50,000 souls super charging him, so it wasn't a natural power. General MGD 109 22:23, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to argue with you. Look, Demons like Lilith can do it through natural power, and Angels, being more powerful, should be able too. They could, just no one did as they didn't see a need to. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:26 PM, July 18th 2012
 * I don't like arguing with you, but I think your logic is flawed, Leviaths are higher than both angels and demons, and they can't do it, or use telekinesis or read minds, or many demonic and angelic powers. Plus I also disagree with all angels being higher than Lilith, Alastiar was able to knock Castiel around like a ragdoll, and Lilith was higher than him. Also I some how doubt that all angels posses it but never used it, I can think of several optunities where if they did they would have used it, Castiel and Alastair first meeting for example, so I disagree its a natural abbility. General MGD 109 22:38, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Flawed, hm? Whatever. It's not always the case, ok. Lilith = plain filth. Yes, maybe she can kill very low-level Angels, but that's it. Fine, but think about it, they're made up of energy, so *logic would dictate that they can shoot energy out. There. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:44 PM, July 18th 2012
 * Okay I know logic would surgest so, but it strikes me if they did, why not use it before, after all when facing those demons, wouldn't it have been simpler to hold up your hand and flash them all dead, rather than having to smite them one at a time? General MGD 109 22:50, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Alright, take that stance, if you will. Look, Alastair, being a White-eyed demon, can use Demonic white light, right? So, he could've used it on Castiel, but he didn't probably cause it won't have done him much good, as he himself said he wished to kill him, insinuating the Demonic blast wouldn't have done anything. They smote them anyways, with the Killing Touch. They're screwed. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:00 PM, July 18th 2012
 * I see where your coming from, but shouldn't the white light kill demons? I mean it can kill angels when used at its highest form, and demons die a lot easier than angels. I'm slightly skeptical to Alastair possing white light, but I'm not going to argue he doesn't, as both the other white eyed demons did. My point is, as far as I know, Castiel only gained the abbilty through the souls Crowley loaned him to fight Rapheal, so its not a natural power. General MGD 109 23:04, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * End of discussion here (you may, however, still comment). Wait, what do you mean? Do Demonic white light kill other demons or Angels? I'm unsure as to what you're referring to. Demonic white blast can kill cities and, like Angelic version, many monsters. The Angelic version, or let's to say the Archangel's move, can wipe out anything, except God and Death who are exemplified. End of the day, Angels are more powerful. -- ImperiexSeed, 7:11 PM, July 18th 2012
 * Not all of them, but I get your point, thats not what I'm arguing, I'm arguing only Castiel ever showed white light, and he only had it as he got it from Crowley leading him Fifty thousand souls, thus greatly enhancing his powers, as such it shouldn't be listed, that angels posses the power, as it isn't a natural angelic power. General MGD 109 23:16, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not all of them, but I get your point, thats not what I'm arguing, I'm arguing only Castiel ever showed white light, and he only had it as he got it from Crowley leading him Fifty thousand souls, thus greatly enhancing his powers, as such it shouldn't be listed, that angels posses the power, as it isn't a natural angelic power. General MGD 109 23:16, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Renaming

 * I was thinking should we rename this page to Photokinesis? Mostly as white light isn't a really accurate term. After all Angels and Demons have shown it's use and despite levels of power, color and one being Holy/Divine/Heavenly etc and one being Demonic/Hellish they are still just generatations and manipulates of forms of light.: The Twilight of Your Despair 21:04, August 9, 2012 (UTC)

I agree with you. General MGD 109 (talk) 22:03, August 9, 2012 (UTC)
 * As far as I'm concerned, the term Photokinesis means the manipulation of lighting, and well, what Angels/Demons do, manipulating and generating light, go further than that; for example, some supernatural is involved in both cases, which makes Photokinesis seem inappropriate. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:41 PM, August 11th 2012


 * Photo which comprises light and kinesis is movement, motion etc. Lightning and Light are not (exactly) the same. This also is supported as we have the Electrokinesis page here. I am not saying that it HAS to be renamed to photokinesis but by definition it is accurate. I know the creation and manipulation of supernatural light is different that normal light. I feel that it would explain it correctly as it's not cojoined with Electrokinesis. Personally, I think it would be completely accurate if it states in the article that the light they use has supernatural properties, as Castiel and Rapheal used it in Heaven regardless if it is or isn't renamed.: The Twilight of Your Despair 22:08, August 12, 2012 (UTC)

Lucifer using White Light
I don't recall Lucifer using white light. Can somebody shed some light (Pun definitely not intended) on this? Is it when he broke out of the cage? 99.226.221.214 01:44, April 8, 2013 (UTC)