User talk:Jyggalag Daedric Prince of Order

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Supernatural Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the Lucifer page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Hallichester (Talk) 02:33, September 24, 2011

Sure! I don't have the books or it would have been something I would have done a long time ago. But I'm gonna order them soon. So go ahead! // Hallichester // 09:33, June 24, 2012 (UTC)

Book Recap
To add a recap, all you have to do is write one and then make an edit on the page, putting it up. Is that what you meant? // Hallichester // 16:40, July 4, 2012 (UTC)

please join crossoverrp

Wmwesbugg29 (talk) 17:36, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

In the form of a blog, yes, it is. But ONLY in that form. There's a Wiki that's specifically designed for Fanfiction. -- ImperiexSeed, 1:09 PM, September 9th 2012

"Winchest" Deletion
Attention, Fellow editors of this Wiki, I am sending you this message, to draw your attention to present discussion over whether or not to allow the fan fiction page "Winchest" to remain on this wiki or not, as this is an important issue, I, as do all the other users, invite you, to state your opinion on this issue, I personally do not mind if you argree with me or not, on this matter. I will not take judment on your views, but I feel they should be stated, as this is an issue which could change the very future of this wiki, and as loyal contributors, we all have a right to state our view on what happens to this wiki, and what its future is. Thank you.

Ps: Kindly do not send your views on this topic to me, simply place them upon the "Winchest" talk page. General MGD 109 (talk) 18:46, September 17, 2012 (UTC)

"Shtriga" Deletion
Hey, I was just watching that episode, and edited the article accordingly, only to find that you deleted my edit almost immediately without explanation. In the episode, Sam/Dean actually mentions that they cannot be killed by any human weapons or god weapons. Even though I just watched it before, I forget which of them said it.Iowa Contact (talk) 15:25, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

I remember the episode and even watched it over and they never say that.

You...watched it over...in the twenty or so seconds between our two posts? Funny, because I literally was watching that part right before I edited the article.Iowa Contact (talk) 14:43, March 27, 2013 (UTC)

I was watching when they discussed the damned thing on the episode and they never say that! Self-Declared God of Supreme Conduits (talk) 15:19, March 27, 2013 (UTC)Kesslerbeast

"The Shtriga is invulnerable to all weapons devised by God and man." - Sam, while researching it. 15:40 into the episode.

You're welcome.Iowa Contact (talk) 23:21, March 28, 2013 (UTC)

Who is that in you avatar?
Hi sorry to bother you I was wondering who that was in your avatar?MrAnonymous (talk) 13:46, October 13, 2012 (UTC)MrAnonymous

Novel Canonization
Hey I can understand our argument on the novels, and i wonder, would it seem better if we remove both categories canon and non-canon, and label each book individually based on canonical(if thats a word) status. To me that seems like a proper solution. Winchester7314 (talk) 14:19, November 28, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm....that does seem fair....I'm working on creating each individual page for each individual book. You're welcome to help if you like. Self-Declared God of Supreme Conduits (talk) 22:24, November 28, 2012 (UTC) Kesslerbeast

I'm getting involved. Canon is defined as info that pertains to something. So therefore, Kesseler's right in saying that the Supernatural novels are canon, which makes Winchester7314 wrong. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:34 PM, November 28th 2012

Thank you Imperiex but I think we have good agreement going now...some of the novels would be considered un-canon. Self-Declared God of Supreme Conduits (talk) 22:38, November 28, 2012 (UTC)Kesslerbeast

Alright, pal. I just wanted to make sure that Winchester7314 didn't harass you especially inaccurately. Tell me if you need my assistance. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:42 PM, November 28th 2012

Sure thing Imperiex. Self-Declared God of Supreme Conduits (talk) 22:45, November 28, 2012 (UTC)Kesslerbeast

Sorry, but no. The only reason I say this, is because other users will see it, and could very possibly rack the wiki with fake characters. I'd have said sure if you were the only one to do it. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:08 PM, November 28th 2012

Thanks anyways Imperiex. Self-Declared God of Supreme Conduits (talk) 01:12, November 29, 2012 (UTC)Kesslerbeast

Old friend
Wazzup!! Battlelord7 (talk) 23:33, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Hey buddy. How are things? Self-Declared God of Supreme Conduits (talk) 23:40, December 19, 2012 (UTC) Kesslerbeast

Bodacious, that is how its going. Battlelord7 (talk) 23:59, December 19, 2012 (UTC)

Novel Info
Hey! Any update on what spices were used on the manta ray tail whip in "Fresh Meat" to kill the Aswang?AaronHW (talk) 22:29, March 28, 2013 (UTC)AaronHW

It might be awhile, i loaned my copy to a friend.Self-Declared God of Supreme Conduits (talk) 11:09, April 7, 2013 (UTC)Kesslerbeast

Probably in the season 8 timeline...Either the Hindu gods Shiva/Vishnu as an ally...You could make Garth as the sole lead...Let me know if you want more details...ME$$AIAH 16:13, April 7, 2013 (UTC)RaghavD

ImperiexSeed's idea for an episode
Have the Almighty, acting behind the scenes in someway. His hand in "Smypathy for the Devil" could be a standard, when he snatched Dean and Sam, whisking them onto a plane. Have Death appear, an Archangel and a cupid. How it panes out is totally up to you, Kessler. I can't say I currently have a recap. You make it up. -- ImperiexSeed, 5:57 PM, April 7th 2013

It might be awhile before I can get around to it, because I can't do it on my mobile.Self-Declared God of Supreme Conduits (talk) 00:41, April 8, 2013 (UTC)Kesslerbeast

Shtriga
Okay, to avoid a pointless editing war, I think its best if we talk this issue over like two rational human beings. Now I'm a trusting person, so if you say it says its a witch, then I believe you. However I disagree its correct. For my first reason I would like to point out the Shtriga has nothing in common with any other witch to ever appear on the show, it doesn't practice magic, it possess enhanced physical attributes (while witches, unless charmed are simply humans who practice magic to a strong degree), it eats people (well there souls but still counts) none of these traits are witch like, there all monster traits not witch traits.

Second its stated the Shtriga's true form is that hag like appearance, but it takes human form during the day, Witches are mostly normal humans, so once again it doesn't follow the traits of a witch, in fact the idea of a creature taking human form is another monster trait (dragons, Rakassha, werewolves, skinwalkers, pheonix and crocotta do this.)

Now my next point is, does being called a witch really mean that it is a genuine witch? After all both in show and out of show (in your season guide books) have referred to creatures as something there not, for example Amazons, Leviathans and pagan gods have all been called monsters on multiple occasions, despite the fact that as none of them are the children of Eve there not really monsters. There called simply an analogy, or an insult couldn't calling the Shtriga a witch fall under the same category?

Finally I'm going to take it, your going to say all of this is simply opinion, well okay here's a fact, that proves that at the very least its been reconned that the shtriga isn't a witch, when Sam and Dean first meet witches in "Malleus Malfecium" they make it quite clear that they have never met witches before this date, now if the shtriga was really some form of witch, wouldn't one of them brought it up, atleast once?

Well thats the opening statement to my argument, I await your reply. General MGD 109 (talk) 18:46, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

"Striga are Albanian witches that often take on the form of an elderly woman or a doctor. AStriga feeds by sucking the "breath of life" out of its victims." And later in the next paragraph it says "We went through several designs of what different WITCHES would look like."- Kesslerbeast

I never said I didn't belive you, did you actually read my argument? General MGD 109 (talk) 19:21, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

Eric Kripke said that....how much more proof do you need that they are witches?- Kesslerbeast

Well I'm sorry, but the fact that every other fact, other than that one is in contrast, makes me skeptical. By this point they clearly didn't have much idea about witches, so it was clearly changed later on, its a common thing in shows, for it make sense in context however, it has to be taken that its not a witch. General MGD 109 (talk) 19:28, April 12, 2013 (UTC)

There's as much proof that it is a witch than Chuck is God....- Kesslerbeast

They're witch-like. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:33 PM, April 12th 2013

Really? Do you mind if I give you an example, in Phantom Stranger the demons demonic form rembels insects more than smoke, it can only possess the weak and the scared, only the iris turn black rather than the whole eye, and holy water litarly burns its flesh. Why great differance? Its early days, all the details haven't been desided yet, what reason is it we come to in show, its a special and quite unique demon. Same situation occurs here, in reallity they simply hadn't desided how they were going to portray witches yet, and went for a child eating hag like type. Later they switched it for a medieval depiction. But in show, the explination we come to is they were mistaken and it was really a monster, its the only way to preserve continuity. General MGD 109 (talk) 19:37, April 12, 2013 (UTC)


 * True, and, the writers have changed the adaptation of demons in lore. Well, actually, demons as portrayed in Supernatural, are nothing like demons in lore. But, that's besides the point. The Shtriga, inverse, resemble both a monster and a witch. So, if anything, they should be called what's known as a hag. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:41 PM, April 12th 2013
 * I agree, it is clearly based upon a hag.General MGD 109 (talk) 19:43, April 12, 2013 (UTC)
 * However, here, there's a glitch. Because, technically, the word "hag" is just another name for a witch. It's generally used to describe an ugly practioner of magic. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:47 PM, April 12th 2013


 * True, but as I think I made clear in my opening argument, from what we've seen its got more in common with monsters than Witches, as it doesn't practice magic, eat humans and possess enhanced physical powers. General MGD 109 (talk) 19:50, April 12, 2013 (UTC)