Talk:The Things We Left Behind

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 * "Castiel reveals that his vessel Jimmy Novak has been dead since Lucifer killed him in Swan Song ."

Oh my God. This is making my head hurt. All angels need consenting vessels. If Jimmy was long dead, how is Castiel still walking the earth? Why did Hael claim Castiel's vessel was strong? Hael could not have possessed Jimmy if he was dead? Is Carver even paying attention to his own lore? FTWinchester (talk) 05:01, December 10, 2014 (UTC)