User talk:Twilight Despair 5

Welcome
Hi, welcome to Supernatural Wiki! Thanks for your edit to the User talk:Calebchiam page.

Please leave a message on my talk page if I can help with anything! -- Calebchiam (Talk) 15:04, 4 March 2011

Re:Supernatural
Feel free to go ahead and create the page. As long as it makes sense, it's fine to create the article. Likewise for any other articles you might want to create. Thanks. Calebchiam Talk 03:20, March 5, 2011 (UTC)

Gods page.
Hello there and welcome to this wiki foundation! I really like the article titled "Gods" that you constructed; it makes a great addition to the database here. If you have any question, thoughts, and opinions please don't hesitate to post a message on my Talk page.

Anderson54, March 5th 2011

Other Wikis
Hey there!! No, this is not the only wiki that has good information, wiki templates, character biographies and other Supernatural related stuff. In fact, I also contribute to a wiki called Super-Wiki, which in my opinion, has better information to Supernatural related stuff. But don't get me wrong, this wiki is still resourceful and great.

Anderson54, March 5th 2011

Re: Gods page.
To answer your question, yes and no. While in most respects the page is formal, some of the information you’ve posted is obscure and somewhat speculative, e.g., the stuff about the ancient, higher level, young gods is not exactly Canonical, as it seems more of an opinion than fact itself because the show itself hasn’t given those titles to them. But still, in my honest opinion, yes I think there are different levels of divinity in Gods. So with that said, I may change some stuff; nothing too major though just minor stuff.

Anderson54, March 7th 2011

Re: Soul pg.
Hello there!! I got your message and thank you for creating the "Soul" page here, and yes, it is definitely a "hot topic" or a tight fixture for Season 6. The whole thing interests me a whole lot :) I made all the changes to the page that I thought it needed; feel free to check them out.

Anderson54, March 9th 2011

Hey, could you please share your opinion on the monster strength-scale on its blog by 123bante123...http://supernatural.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:123bante123/Strength_scale_in_monsters#comm-8983. -- ImperiexSeed, 12:50 PM, January 14th 2012

Magic
In a way, the term "magic" is universal, encompassing lots of different things, while sometimes it can be limited. In this case, I'd say leave the already-existing page, and document all the different types of magic, used by angels, gods, demons, witches, fairies, etc. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:18 PM, January 15th 2012

Adminship
Yes, I heard your request to become an admin, but didn't have an answer at that point.. To become an admin, you first need certain qualities. Qualities include, but are not limited to, leadership, outgoing, and respectful. I personally find you to be kind, and smart, despite your grammar mistakes, which you don't do often, anyways. Tell you what, you just keep editing, and you'll be on your to becoming one! :) Happy editing. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:32 PM, January 15th 2012

I just made you the chat moderator to start you off, so enjoy, and please don't abuse your powers, which I doubt you will. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:40 PM, January 15th 2012

I'm pretty sure there not
I'm pretty sure there not monsters, or eve's creations for one thing, they were created by oberon king of the fairies, for another they reside in there own dimension, only coming here when summoned, also they have own different types and species, rather than with monsters, you only have one type, per monster, there is also the fact, they posses such great powers, which most monsters don't, they don't eat people, and they are ruled by oberon. General MGD 109 00:54, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I thought you were talking about something else, nether mind. General MGD 109 10:09, January 22, 2012 (UTC)

Well, it's definitely a possibly of the credits misspelling the name, however there are some many names going around, that I don't know what's legit. Tell you what, however you think it's spelled, is what you can title the page. :) -- ImperiexSeed, 6:07 PM, January 27th 2012

Hey, could you meet me on chat for a minute? -- ImperiexSeed, 3:36 PM, February 4th 2012

I need an answer on something, could you please meet me on chat.. -- ImperiexSeed, 10:55 PM, February 20th 2012

Should we have dreamwalking as a page?
Hello, following the admin asking me if I had any ideas for a page, I came up with dreamwalking, as many beings, Angels, Archangels, Sephirms, Higher demons ect can go into peoples dreams, and even manipulate them, well he's unsure wether it should have a page or it should be classed as a form of telepathy, so we decided to ask other uses what they think of it, so if you would be so kind as to tell him what you think, it will be much appreciated, thank you. General MGD 109 19:37, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you, but don't tell me, tell him, its his discision, Its just my idea. General MGD 109 19:42, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

I have two quick questions that I need answers to, so please meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:16 PM, March 3rd 2012

Sure
Sure, I'll be right there.General MGD 109 00:29, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

It seems okay now, just slow. General MGD 109 00:39, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Are you still there? I lost connection, and now there seems to be a problem, I don't know how much your getting. General MGD 109 00:53, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

I'll come off, and go back on, and see if that makes a differance. General MGD 109 01:04, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, I have talk to you later. General MGD 109 01:12, March 4, 2012 (UTC)

The Locationstemplate needs minor tweaking. Could you please fix the mistakes, because they're making the Whereabouts section indented. Go to the page, and fix it. -- ImperiexSeed, 8:34 PM, March 10th 2012

Well
How time flys man, i never thought u would be a "Supernatural" fan like I am, but i guess we never got the chance to know each other well. if u wanna catch up i can be found on here. http://synoptic.wikia.com/wiki/Synoptic_Wiki I would really like to see an old friend. Phantombeast. (&#39;Talk&#39;) 22:03, April 3, 2012 (UTC)

Just me - ImperiexSeed. I propose a merger, combining info on Ailments control and Moluckinesis into one. Do happen to know the kenetic name for controlling diseases. When/if found, get back to me. -- ImperiexSeed, 10:42 PM, April 4th 2012

Thanks for bringing it to my attention. Cas, while wielding all of Purgatory's souls possessed astounding High-level Reality Warping power. Wait, so the quote said, "We need to keep Michael and Lucifer's Cage"? Very well, so either he wasn't able to beat Michael or Michael's stronger. -- ImperiexSeed, 9:53 PM, June 20th 2012

It would be completely obliged if you meet me on chat. -- ImperiexSeed, 8:01 PM, July 29th 2012

On a unfair matter
Hello, I writting to you, on the Matter, that our Admin ImperiexSeed, was initially granted his request for a Bureaucrat position, but was then only minutes later denied, on the grounds that the User believed he exploited his position and abused his powers. Acting like was better than other users and such. To get the full Gist of it, go to his page and read what they have written.

I find this both unfair and incorect, and I believe you will agree with me, as such I wrote a complaint to the Wiki staff, and I'm writting to request you do the same. After all our Admin doesn't abuse his powers, and is in perfect right to recieve a Bureaucrat position.

In case you are unsure how to do this. Here are two links.

http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contact/general or http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Community_Central:Staff

The first one is the one I used, the second is if you want to contanct a certain member of the centeral Staff. Any way which one you chose is your decision. Well thats about it, I'm sure you agree with me, on the fact that these claims are both inaccurate and unfair, so thank you, if you have any questions write to me, or if you want ask him himself. General MGD 109 20:32, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Exactly where does it say in Salute to Supernatural New Jersey 2010 that gods didn't gain power from worship and why they are normally beyond demons.

http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Salute_to_Supernatural_New_Jersey_2010

Salute to Supernatural Vancouver 2010)

http://www.supernaturalwiki.com/index.php?title=Salute_to_Supernatural_Vancouver_2010

I'm looking throughout all these videos and its just them goofing around.

Could you meet me on chat?

Thanks for altering me, I commend it. First off, let's ask: What is canon? Canon is what's said or seen in the series. So since Death untruthfully said in the end he will reap God, it can be mentioned in articles on the Supernatural wiki. Now do I agree with it, no. I myself also asked him to stop doing things that he continuously did. On my talk page, he told he'd stop, so I recommend you ask him. -- ImperiexSeed, 8:41 PM, November 26th 2012

Mentioning Vancouver, New Jersey
You were saying stuff about the pagans and gods were mentioned in Vancouver, do you recall who said them ?

I'm on chat now. General MGD 109 (talk) 21:33, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry, I won't be able to do that, as I've got to go now, how about we talk tommorow? General MGD 109 (talk) 22:43, January 28, 2013 (UTC)

All right fair enough. But Sam did make it clear that they drew a large amount of power from sacrifices, which would be a part of worship. Chronos had to make his own sacrifices for himself so he could have control over his powers. Of course it makes sense that they don't draw power from whether or not people believe in them, but it has been verfied they do draw power from worshippers (worshippers implies that people worship them, otherwise they would just say believers)

HeWhoCannotBeDestroyed (talk) 03:27, March 26, 2013 (UTC)

Response to re-editing Deities page
Worshipers implies that people '''worship them. '''Otherwise they would just be called believers. You can believe in a god without worshipping it. Sam has confirmed that the gods were weakened when people stopped worshipping them (this includes sacrifices). For verification, please watch Time After Time (Season 7, Episode 12)

Holy White Light/Angels' True Form
Holy White Light is an attack precisely executed, generally initiated through a vessel's hand/palm - a clear demonstration of will. When 'seen', the phisology of an Angel can blind and deafen mortals. These two, here, certainly differentiate from each other. Metatron's presence, when he brushed by, deteriorated Crowley's vessel's skin, sizzling it off. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:32 PM, May 2nd 2013


 * I do not appreciate your tone. So, STOP - and talk to me nicely. But, yes, we can drop this. -- ImperiexSeed, 4:58 PM, May 2nd 2013


 * Ok, for your information, I, as a user, can edit whatever page I want except for userpages. So, by that standard, I can edit your talk page. You, actually, were taking a tone. Have a good one, buddy. -- ImperiexSeed, 6:35 PM, May 2nd 2013

If your on now, we can do it now. General MGD 109 (talk) 19:28, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Tense Usage
Hello. Imperiex and I were just wondering if you would like to be one of the advocates for the creation and policing proper tense usage in the wiki? It's mainly about ensuring narrative articles are in the past tense, and that other users/contributors know about this. It would really be great if you join us in this campaign/crusade or whatever you call it. Please leave a message on my or Imperiex's talk page. The forum on tense guidelines/policy is here . FTWinchester (talk) 02:26, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Chat
Sure. I have work in the afternoons to evenings, though. My timezone is central. I'm usually available during the day. Hope to catch you next time. FTWinchester (talk) 02:12, June 12, 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations
Thank you, Twilight Despair 5 :)  RaghavD  Taking the ROAD less travelled  04:00, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. I'll keep that in mind. Btw what are your thoughts on including a countdown clock to the season 9 page? RaghavD  Taking the ROAD less travelled  17:34, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Since the episodes are first telecasted in the US, the clock has to be timed to it. There is no question of bias. RaghavD  Taking the ROAD less travelled  17:51, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

You raised a good point. First let us see whether the clock idea will be approved or not. RaghavD  Taking the ROAD less travelled  07:04, June 22, 2013 (UTC)

Okay, Twilight Despair 5, I'll try my best to come to a compromise over this little matter. Espcially considering I helpped start it. General MGD 109 (talk) 18:18, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

I understand your points, and I get that was your intention, but if its causing so many problems it might be best to cut it all off, and only mention it in the trivia section as you suggested. But as I said, that is simply one solution there are probably others we can explore. I simply felt it would be the easiest solution, but if your really agaist it, I am willing to try others. I also understand the possibility on the word "Pagan" but I don't think we can do much about that, as is straight out of the show. You know I often wonder if we would have any of these problems if someone had made the mistake of including Hindu deties in with the other Pagans, how could they have thought that would be a good idea? General MGD 109 (talk) 22:03, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

I see your point, but we shouldn't let any one or few user(s), dicktate what is canon and not canon worthy of telling and what is right to keep separate and together. Meaning, as it in canon God is seen as a deity by Angels, Humans, even by other deities at least as a higher one, than it canon. But, here is a compromise if we cannot keep the mention of God and the other beings with similar status on the front of the page. That it be moved to the trivia God and all being views like god, and that at least God keep the cateogory deity as that is a fact of the show. But I also think, we should not removed, but reduce the word pagan on the page. Like, overstating a title or full name is tacty in wrighting. It would be like say Dean Winchester everytime, his name would be used in an sentence. Like stating every so often, pagan gods/deities is completely ok. But too many times, and it seems like we are trying to hard to show it, you see what I mean.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 04:28, August 1, 2013 (UTC)

Re: Your blog
I'm currently sick, And you? Sure I'll take a look at it. FTWinchester (talk) 14:59, February 1, 2014 (UTC)

Looked at it and loved it. I prepared a rather expansive input on your blog, and I really liked the fact that your arc has so many interesting and epic possibilities. FTWinchester (talk) 14:59, February 1, 2014 (UTC)

Yea sorry. I took a few days away from here so I forgot to check if there has been a response. I'm looking into it now. FTWinchester (talk) 23:39, February 19, 2014 (UTC)

Re:Adminship
Hi Twilight, just letting you know that I've seen your request and will do a detailed check on your contributions later on next week. Cheers. Calebchiam Talk 05:15, November 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hey, sorry for the late response. Since you mentioned that you'd be willing to create a userblog for the adminship request, please take a look at Supernatural Wiki:Requests for adminship and follow the instructions to create your RfA at Supernatural Wiki:Requests for adminship/Twilight_Despair_5. I'll close in it a week once other users have voted on it, and you may post on users' talk pages to seek their input (emphasis on input - it would be in bad taste to ask users to vote in your favour). Let me know if you need any help, cheers. Calebchiam Talk 16:14, December 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Please read through and follow the instructions on the RfA page. A user blog is not how you do it, I'm afraid. Calebchiam Talk 01:44, December 2, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Hey
I created your RfA page. You can find it here. http://supernatural.wikia.com/wiki/Supernatural_Wiki:Requests_for_adminship/Twilight_Despair_5  RaghavD '"Look into my eyes. It’s where my demons hide"  16:55, December 5, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, I think so. RaghavD '"Look into my eyes. It’s where my demons hide"  17:42, December 5, 2014 (UTC)

Those are not my questions, buddy. They came with the template for RfA. Anyway good job on the questions! Let's wait for Calebchiam now. RaghavD '"Look into my eyes. It’s where my demons hide"  16:56, December 6, 2014 (UTC)

Talk
Hello, EmpyreanSmoke here. If you have the time, I would like to talk in private. Do you have a Facebook, Twitter, Kik, or some other form of place where would could chat in private? Please message me back as soon as you can. Thanks in advance.

Successful RfA
Congratulations! You can now do the following:


 * Edit and move fully protected pages
 * Delete, restore, and view deleted revisions of pages and images
 * Protect pages from edits, moves, or creation by non-sysops
 * Block and unblock users and IP addresses and ranges
 * Edit the interface pages in the MediaWiki: namespace
 * View Special:Unwatchedpages

If you have any questions, feel free to ask. Cheers. Calebchiam Talk 04:41, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Congrats, TD5! Good to have you on board. :)  RaghavD '"Look into my eyes. It’s where my demons hide"  12:39, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Congratulations, TD5! Glad to have someone like you on the team! FTWinchester (talk) 13:04, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah sure, man. Will keep that in mind. RaghavD '"Look into my eyes. It’s where my demons hide"  15:54, December 20, 2014 (UTC)

Need your assistance
Hi, TD5. As you may have noticed, several users have been spamming flame and criticism war against each other apparently from an old argument they had from other websites. Discussion could be found here. I tried to find a way to mediate but things have gotten so blown out of proportion that the only option I see is to just block everyone involved as pretty much everyone had no significant contributions to the actual wiki itself. I would really appreciate for you to weigh in on this. Thanks. FTWinchester (talk) 23:34, December 23, 2014 (UTC)

I think it's quite alright. They've been banned and Caleb already stepped in that night on chat as things were wrapping up. Thanks for responding, though. Happy holidays! FTWinchester (talk) 13:47, December 25, 2014 (UTC)

hi
Can you please add the leaderboard to this wiki? It would make editing more enjoyable. Also adding comments to the article would be nice.Dream Inspiration2014 (talk) 07:55, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

Ok that is fair. Thank you very much.Dream Inspiration2014 (talk) 18:07, February 13, 2015 (UTC)

Sally Owens
Can you do something about Sally Owens? He/she keeps putting up stuff like "Black Magic" and "White Magic" when neither are canon to Supernatural at all (I don't ever recall the two subjects even being mentioned, much less talked about or shown). It seems that he/she is putting information about Magic from other sources onto Witches when it holds no relevance to Supernatural whatsoever, and therefore is bias.

I explained it to him/her, and they have completely ignored it and re-edited it in. and seeing the history of the page, this is not the first time they have done this. Gabriel456 (talk) 00:35, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

That's ok, I just wanted to let you know. But thank you Gabriel456 (talk) 01:21, March 16, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you,

It is a great honor. I won't dissapoint any of you.

Assassin Abdullah (talk) 16:56, March 29, 2015 (UTC)

Hello!
Hi there. I'm so sorry to bother you but could you please ban Degrassifan31? They're a sockpuppet from my main wiki (Degrassi Wiki) and they were banned by an admin on there are coming to me on here and no one is putting up with their crap. I'm so sorry that they're bring this issue to this wiki and you shouldn't have to put up with that at all. Thank you so much! Sarah (talk) 21:57, April 19, 2015 (UTC)

im not a sockpuppet (im his friend). why are you acting like this? you're the one acting immature.

Enough, first off please sign your post Degrass. You can do this by hitting the sign icon on your edit tools or by hitting ~ four times. Now I will have the other admins will review this claim of sockpuppeting. If it's proven to any real degree I'll with make a ban that fits. Until then I my hands are tied. But for your own case Degrass don't contact Thisoneperson user at least here, until after this affair is settled. I thank all of you for your Cooperation. &#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 14:13, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

Sam
I've been having edit wars with Trip391 or EmpyreanSmoke for a little bit now regarding Sam. The most latest being that I edited Susan Carter's page saying that she shook Dean's hand and thanked and I didn't include Sam because she never actually shook his hand or thanked him, but because they're trying to bolster and equalize Sam to Dean (when the show makes it clear that Dean's the center of everything), every edit I do on pages regarding Sam if it has to do with just Dean getting thanked, etc, and Sam being left out, they keep undoing it simply because they can't wrap their heads around the fact that Sam's just Dean's shadow and just there to everyone, whereas Dean's getting all the kisses, 'thank you's,' the best lines, the ladies, he's good with kids, etc. Or like how on Andrea Barr's page I portrayed the scene as her only thanking Dean and kissing him, but they changed that too even though she did only thank Dean. I'm just letting you know because you're probably be hearing from at least one of them soon. -- ImperiexSeed, 1:34 AM, April 28th 2015
 * I'll just continue under here. First off, I did't realize you were an admin, because when you suggested to Imperiex on his blog that biased statements he makes because he doesn't like a character should remain in his blog, he ignored you completely and changed how he wrote the events of Family Remains on Susan Carter's page. He said this "I edited Susan Carter's page saying that she shook Dean's hand and thanked and I didn't include Sam because she never actually shook his hand or thanked him", but when watching the episode, you can see that after Susan shakes Dean's hand, she has to turn her body after shaking Sam's as well (this also makes sense since both brothers did help the Carter family). And he is correct when he says that when he's edited recently, and left information from out of an article, someone else has stepped in and corrected his incorrect and biased statement (he then starts edit warring against them). He also doesn't seem to understand that a wiki shouldn't really be concerned with how he feels about a character, but what accurately happened in an episode, without bias. I touched on some of that here (for your reference) when I just wrote to FTWinchester. Sorry for bothering you with this, but hopefully you and FTWinchester can help Imperiex understand that the wiki itself is not the place for his bias, and that it should stay in his blog (ironically, you told him that in his blog itself). Trip391 (talk) 05:47, April 28, 2015 (UTC)
 * Apparently Imperiex's hatred of Sam is applied towards Jared as well, which shouldn't really matter, except he can't keep these feelings in his personal blog, as was suggested/told to him. He wrote that "she enjoyed working with Jensen" on Katherine Boecher's article, which is correct, but not all the information. When she was at the VanCon 2010 convention, she went into much more detail about the scene where she (as Lilith) had to seduce Jared (as Sam), and how she loved doing it, and was said it was over (blah, blah, blah). Personally, I don't really care if the tidbit of information is in the article, but Imperiex's complete unwillingness to be neutral on the topic of Sam/Jared and Dean/Jensen is not good. Not only is this not constructive, but can turn readers away because, frankly, they don't care about his personal feelings on the character, but would rather learn more about Supernatural. Trip391 (talk) 04:20, May 10, 2015 (UTC)

Admin Rights
Hello, TD5. As you know, I used to be an admin, but my rights were removed roughly 6 months ago due to a misunderstanding (this is an understatement, but it's probably best if we don't go into this again, as I don't was another argument to arise). The bureaucrat CalebChiam removed my rights due to this incident, and said that if you and the rest of the community agreed, that he would return my rights back. You guys agreed that I should get my rights back within a matter of months. I jumped the gun, and requested my rights back nearly a month later. I admit, that was foolish, selfish, and very impatient of me. I was really excited, which caused me to ask too quickly, but this is no excuse. Because I have learned from my mistake, I have waited nearly 6 months before requesting my rights again. As you agreed that I get the rights back within a matter of months, and I have waited for almost half a year, I think it would be fair that I request for my rights back. As an admin, I will never, and I mean never abuse my power. I hate it when this happens, and the last thing I want to do is afflict that on this wiki. I will work hard to make the design ship shape, make sure the content is 100% accurate, and keep the trolls and spammers away. Some people have accused me of wanting extra rights for a "power grab", but that is not it at all. I will admit, having admin rights make me feel nice, but that is not why I want them. I want them because I love Supernatural, and love being on this wiki. I want to help the wiki grow, and keep it at its best. I love graphic design, and so admin rights would allow me to edit the home page and background. Once again, the last thing I would do is use my rights for personal gain, and promise to only use them to help the wiki. So what do you say? Will you give me another shot as an admin? Imagine what it feels like to get another shot at doing something you love. Feel free to leave a comment on my blog. EmpyreanSmoke (talk) 16:25, May 2, 2015 (UTC)

That is exactly what I am doing. CalebChiam said that if the admins and some established users didn't mind me getting my rights back, then he would return them. He didn't expect me to make an official page, as this isn't a matter of electing a new admin, this is deciding if CalebChiam should return my previous rights. In this case, I only need to show that the admins and and established users don't mind me having my rights back. Thanks for for responding. EmpyreanSmoke (talk) 02:26, May 3, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Community Choice Awards
Hello! What's your take on a community choice awards as suggested by wikia staff Gcheung28? Her complete proposal is at the bottom of my talk page. It looks interesting but I've been quite removed from recent episodes and I only focus more on clean up. Thanks! FTWinchester (talk) 17:14, May 15, 2015 (UTC)

Big Bad/S10
Hey! So I have a question. Who was the main villain(s) and secondary villain(s) of Season 10? I was gonna fix the Big Bad page but I'm only on Season 5 of the series so idk who it is in S10, but judging from what I've read on articles i'd say it was the Mark/Dean and Rowena as main. But I wanted an admins opinion first. Tysonjackson (talk) 06:58, May 23, 2015 (UTC)

On the topic of the Big Bads, we should seriously redefine what is constitutive for a villain to be considered a main or secondary villain of a given season, because right now it's crazily out of control, and it seems like people are globing all the villains of a season and labeling them either a main or secondary villain. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:03 AM, May 23rd 2015

I think it was the Mark of Cain was the main villain. Even if the Darkness was the true corrupting force that made the mark a curse, for season ten itself was trying to remove it. The darkness could be the season 10 secondary main villian as it was the true corrupting force. Rowena could be seen as a predominate secondary villian. As well as Cain when he became evil again. The Franksteins could be seems as other predominate villains for the end of the series. Crowley wasn't a villian directly this season neither was Metatron. This season I think had the most villians.&#91;&#91;User:Twilight Despair 5&#124;&#93;&#93; (&#91;&#91;The God of Creation&#93;&#93;) (talk) 19:10, May 23, 2015 (UTC)


 * So Mark, Rowena, then the Styne's? I fixed it. How does it look? Also @ImperiexSeed, I noticed that you removed Jake from secondary villain. Why so? He was the primary threat they had to deal with other than Azazel and the Crossroad Demon. Tysonjackson (talk) 07:24, May 24, 2015 (UTC)

Standard for being a main or secondary villain/the Darkness
There should really be a specific, usable standard that we can use for what constitutes being a main or secondary villain, not just globing every villain that appears and piling it onto the page. That's not what the page was originally created for. Seeing as you have nothing to support saying that it's a magical force or a deity, your claims are weightless and neither of these should not be put on the wiki as being so till its confirmed. The reason being there's no way to determine anything that specific about it that can be in any way supported, because we don't know if it's a mind, a force, etc. Saying that it is a higher being is accurate, however. -- ImperiexSeed, 10:04 PM, May 23rd 2015

Yes, death did call it a force, but it could still be a mind, a consciousness. Calling it a magical force is at this point speculative. -- ImperiexSeed, 3:45 AM, May 24th 2015

A special thank you and goodbye!
I'm leaving this wiki, but not cause of you. It was nice getting to work with you, and thanks for being my friend, you were great co-editor to work with. Goodbye mate! -- ImperiexSeed, 11:47 PM, May 27th 2015

Chat
Hey! Could you meet me on chat? There's something I'd like to discuss with some users. Tysonjackson (talk) 01:24, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Chat
Hey! I'm sorry I forgot I was still on there. No one ever came on so I went to get a shower and completely forgot. Just let me know whenever you're free and we can discuss it then. Tysonjackson (talk) 03:03, May 29, 2015 (UTC)

Deities
Hey TD5. Could you please unlock the Deities article? Thanks in advance. EmpyreanSmoke (talk) 02:12, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

Wiki Redesign
Staff member Grace mentioned that our Wiki's Main Page contains too many templates and offered to help redesign the Wiki. What do you say about that? RaghavD '"Look into my eyes. It’s where my demons hide"  14:37, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

Yes, TD5. RaghavD '"Look into my eyes. It’s where my demons hide"  17:07, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

That is not what I meant. According to one of the Wikia Staff member, the Main Page on our wiki, (http://supernatural.wikia.com/wiki/Supernatural_Wiki) is a quite cluttered and she offered to redesign it. I messaged you to see if you have any objections to it. It is not regarding any article. Although, we will discuss the problems associated with the Power pages and clear the confusion once and for all. Why don't you leave a message on the pages' talk pages and let everyone know what's wrong with the current notion of powers. But do you have any objection to the Wiki undergoing a redesign? RaghavD '"Look into my eyes. It’s where my demons hide"  13:44, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

I'm glad that you raised that issue. We'll discuss with everyone, on the Wiki and come to a consensus on how to resolve the matter once and for all. RaghavD '"Look into my eyes. It’s where my demons hide"  15:29, June 3, 2015 (UTC)

To kick start things, why dont you leave a message on those pages. People will respond and you can discuss your ideas with them and see if you can convince them of your stance. RaghavD '"Look into my eyes. It’s where my demons hide"  12:58, June 4, 2015 (UTC)

Editing
Just a question, does the past tense thing includes the entire wiki or are there exceptions?

XQueenOfHeartsx (talk) 19:27, June 1, 2015 (UTC)

Conventions
Hey man, a dumb question but gotta ask it, are the comments of the cast members who assist the fan conventions valid in terms in what they tell might or will happen on the show? I was scrooling Twitter today and lots of fans are exited cause Mark Pellegrino said in today Purgatory Convention that Lucifer will be back in season 11, looking for an official source other than Pellegrino's word I also discovered that apparently Cole is also coming back with his own storyline, my source so far besides looking for "Lucifer Season 11" and "#PurCon" trends on Twitter is also this tweet from a fan (https://twitter.com/loveuPetra/status/607218109728980992) Damon-Balthazar-Salvatore (talk) 23:54, June 6, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I meant it mostly in the latter case as if it can be taken seriously, I mean, I know that Twitter is not all trustable.Damon-Balthazar-Salvatore (talk) 00:24, June 7, 2015 (UTC)

God
You should probably lock God too. Something tells me that the anon will continue this as an edit war Gabriel456 (talk) 00:31, June 8, 2015 (UTC)

Comic-Con Blog
Hey Twilight Despair 5,

I just wanted to let you know that we posted a blog about Comic-Con on this Wiki- http://supernatural.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:ThePK/Calling_All_Fans_Headed_to_SDCC

Cheers, The          P K  ( Wall • Guestbook  ) 21:01, June 16, 2015 (UTC)